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I'm sure this is another topic we've done before. I charge £1.60 for 1 or 2 x 45s sent recorded. The actual postage cost is around £1.35 and the other 25p covers the cost of professional mailers, card stiffeners and printed adress / return labels etc. Anything above this is plain greedy. Godz

Spot on Tony. Here's what Dennis wrote in reply to my question: Hi Paul, there was never any confusion with the two groups. Thinking back some37 years the world was a bigger place then and the two groups were 50-60 miles apart, they being in a town named Reading or close to. We claimed Harrisburg because who would know where Middletown was then (Three Mile Island)! I've been told they were either all white or mostly white. I'll check with Mark about putting the photo's back on the site, I didn't even realize they were gone. Thanks. This might be of some interest................ https://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&s...1rz288y055a~T00 Dennis The link above takes you to the sleeve to a rview of a CD called "Eastern PA 60's Soul". Here's a copy of the review: Perhaps this would be more accurately titled Eastern Pa '60s Blue-Eyed Soul, as all of the music was made by White groups recording for engineer Clay Barclay in the Reading, PA region. Unlike most compilations of impossibly obscure 1960s recordings by regional White American bands, this is not garage rock, although there's an occasional garage flavor. It's soul music, heavily influenced by Motown, James Brown and early group harmony Philadelphia soul, although there's a degree of naivete missing from most soul records performed by African-Americans. It's much closer to the frat-rockish blue-eyed soul of groups like Bill Deal & the Rhondels ("May I") or the Casinos than it is to the Rascals. The covers are well-executed but unmemorable; better are the originals -- which are quite derivative but well done -- and occasionally good enough to sound like covers of obscure Black soul sides. The Catalinas, for instance, do a pretty classy Philly-styled ballad, "Laughing Through the Tears," as well as a respectable James Brown-styled instrumental, "Summer's Groove." James & the Incredible Showmen's "James Brown Boo-Ga-Loo" is another credible emulation of the JB's, while the same band's "To Love to Love" has good harmonies in the Four Seasons/Beach Boys style. The ten songs by the Motiques are all covers and pale next to their surroundings; howerver, they're all grouped together at the end of the disc so they're easily skipped. So there's a link with the Catalinas on Pagoda too - top tune! Godz

I always thought that the Philips and Kent groups were the same. Had another listen and it looks like I was using my "painted on" ears (ie for ornamental purposes only!) Cheers to everyone for the info. I've written to Dennis and if I get a reply that sheds any more light on the Up Tight lot I'll post it here Godz

Should also add that the seller described it as PA Garage Soul - which is why I thought there might be a connection with the other Intentions Godz

Yipee! I paid $58 - have a got a bargain for a change then? Godz

Cheers Chalky I actually nicked that pic off Dennis' site a while ago. I was going to write to him and ask him (and probably still will do) but I thought I might get a quicker answer from this board. Anybody know anything about the Up Tight lot then? Godz

Have you heard the Up Tight 45 Tony - is it any good? Godz

Cheers, I think the Up Tight lot are white as well, and the 45 might be a bit garagey - but I like that kind of stuff anyway. Have to see when it turns up. Godz

speak up Pete - I can't hear you from the back Godz

Are the Intentions who recorded on Up Tight anything to do with the Philips / Kent outfit or a completely different group? And on a totaly different topic, I have about a dozen Blues / Rnb 45s on the old yellow and black Pye label - the R&B series with those letters printed in the centre. Amongst them are a few EPs - would these have originally been issued with picture sleeves or just in regular record company ones? Thanks as always for any help Godz

Thought as much - boot it is. Cheers for the info chaps. At least the Hank Crawford in with the lot was real. Another case of "How do they get over there?" Godz

Can't find my Manship bootleg book. I got a copy of Too Much in with some other stuff from the States. The rest were all definately originals but I'm pretty sure the JC is a boot - but without the book I can't be sure. It has a sort of dark turquoise label and the only thing in the run out groove is 1011a and 1011b and something that looks like 340 or j40 on one side and 3/4 on the other. My brain's telling me it should have a green label anyway but I'd just like to be sure. Put me out of my misery anybody? Cheers, Godz

Come on Stuart - there must have been one or two that you weren't so keen on Godz

You need to go to The Big Chill festival then Wendy. More massages than you can shake a stick at, Juice bars galore, (and coctail bars for the more adventurous ) nice relaxing tunes - and all in the grounds of a deer sanctuary where you camp among giant oak trees and can sit as the sun go down, in front of one of the four lakes, watching the ducks go to bed. https://bigchill.net They've got The Fatback this year to for the more funky inclined And Alice Russell is (imho) the UK's best soul singer at present - bar none! ps - just PM'd you re CDs Wendy

Nowt wrong with freaky and green - "lump" touched a sore spot though as Mrs G is about to ban the traditional Sunday curry and suggests we have something more healthy (ie less fatty- ie not as tasty) instead Anyone got a tracklisting for the Rocket CD? Godz

No need to get personal Anyway, I was only kidding. But if we are back on topic can anybody remember what some of the other recommendations were and are there any that are not too expensive but worth watching out for? Godz

Or failing that gimme my thread back.... ..er ..please Godz

Yeah, I wasn't saying they were all rubbish John. I was making the point that the ones you were likely to find quite easily were more than likely gonna be pap! Godz

Just done a post about Rarest of the Rare in In Your Box bit to bring it up a bit Godz

The thread about Marge Dodson in the Sales section got me thinking about that column that Ian Levine ran for a while in Togetherness mag. I went through a spell of searching for a lot of those things on the net. Perhaps inevitably, most of the ones that were not too hard to find were disapointing to say the least. In fact some of then wouldn't have got a spin at Wigan in the very worst of the 'pop' years. Off the top of my head there was: David Huff - Mary Browne - MOR pop - although the strings are ok. from what I remember it would appeal more to Steely Dan fans JT Sears & Rowbux - Breaking Point - Pop/Rock - wouldn't have been played at the very worst point of Wigan's history. Sue Raney - The Rains Came - similar to Dana Vallery?? My a*se! Elliot Hoffman - Another World - The least soulful record I've EVER heard on TSOP - what on earth is this one all about? The one I kept was Jimmy George - Ain't it Something - despite the whiney white vocals I liked the horns. Felt embarressed using the Togetherness quotes on eBay when offloading the rest though Godz

Faith Hope & Charity - So Much Love - Maxwell You can usually pick it for under $5. Pity is not a bit rarer - people might be a bit more interested in a nice tune Godz

That's another one! original by Miss Toni Fisher I believe - more of a 60s pop hit than show tune I think. Dad was singing the Vicki Carr version and told me that Susan Farrar's was crap. You should listen to your dad sometimes Godz

Yep Same in Oldham My Dad of course called it "Sing Something Sinfull". Mind you he also called Dusty Springfield "Springy Dustcart" There were several occasions when I brought my latest prize home from an Allnighter only to have my Mum or Dad start singing along cos they knew another version. Maybe we should do a thread with Northern Soul songs that are covers of Standards. Here's my first two: My Heart cries for You - my Version - Porgy & Monarchs - Mum and Dad - Dinah Shaw. To the Ends of the Earth - Tony Middleton / Nat King Cole Any more? Feel free to start a new thread Godz

No mate - definately Good Old Days - I can remember the audience all dressed in period costume and that compere with the big whiskers and all the alliteration. Scarred for life, I tells ye. Still, could have been worse - it might have been on my Grandma's other old fave... ...The Black and White Minstrel Show Godz