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So is this that "lesser copy" that you were going to give me a sound clip of? Thought it was taking you a long time to go upstairs While we're on this record, does anyone know anything abour the other labe design? I got one from Soul Bowl in the mid 70's that had a much cruder drawing of a bird and "chirrup" coming out of the beak in kinda pencil script rather than the blocky writing on the usual label. It was yellow but if I remember rightly it could have been a deeper, almost mustard shade. I think the bird looked less parrotish and more like a crap drawing of a sparrow. There was no photo either. Godz

That Canadian encylopedia is worth a look at. Here's another entry: Shirley Matthews Born in Harrow, Ontario, Matthews started her singing career in school and church. At 19 she made money singing while working a full time job at the Bell Telephone business office in Toronto. She sang at high school dances in the early sixties which led to a recurring gig at Club Bluenote rotating with David-Clayton Thomas, Shawne Jackson-Troiano and The Mandala where she would frequently be visited by touring musicians such as Stevie Wonder and The Supremes. An associate of The Four Season's manager Bob Crewe and Red Leaf Records owner Stan Klees spotted Matthews at the Bluenote and she was whisked away to New York City to record her first single "Big Town Boy" after signing a recording contract with Red Leaf. The record went Top-10 and she won a 1964 Juno Award for Female Vocalist Of The Year. She released several follow-up singles but only "Private Property" made any waves. In 1967 she was married to became Shirley Vedder and gave up her career in singing. She has spent most of her adult years living with her family in Unionville, Ontario and was the executive assistant at a racquet ball club there and an accomplished player herself. Notice another mention for Shawne Jackson. Singles 1963 Big Town Boy (Red Leaf/Tamarac) 1964 He Makes Me Feel So Pretty (Red Leaf/Tamarac) 1964 Private Property (Red Leaf/Tamarac) 1965 Stop The Clock (Red Leaf/Tamarac) Godz

Isn't there a connection between her and Andre Gagnon who got plays back in the day with "Wow" on Decca? Sorta awful proto disco if I remember. I think they had a kid together. Godz

And the mention of Rain earler just reminded me: Charity Brown was Phyllis Brown who's "Oh Baby" on Rainbo got spins at Wigan. Godz

There was a great soul/funk outfit called The Majestics who had some releases on Arc. Info from The Canadian Pop Encyclopedia https://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Pop_Encyclopedia John Crone (saxophone) Orlando Guierri (trombone) Shawne Jackson (vocals) Brian Lucrow (trumpet) Wes Morris (drums) Eric Robertson (keyboards) Eugene 'Jay' Smith (vocals) Bobby Starr (guitar) Russ Strathdee (saxophone) Chris Vickery (bass) Jay Jackson (vocals) Dave Konvalenko (guitar) William Cudmore (saxophone) Fred Keeler (guitar) This Rhythm 'n' Blues/Soul group started out in 1965 as Jay Smith And The Majestics but changed name to Shawne and Jay Jackson and The Majestics when Shawne's brother, and ex-Pharaohs member, Jay Jackson joined the group. Shawne Jackson had previously played in Jack Hardin And The Silhouttes; Fred Keeler was brought in from David Clayton-Thomas And The Shays; Drummer Wes Morris started out in Jon And Lee And The Checkmates; Crone had played with Bobby Kris; Cudmore had been a member of Robbie Lane And The Disciples. They released several albums and singles on the ARC Records labels and their version of Arthur Conley's "Sweet Soul Music", on the compilation 'CTV's After Four' while "Respect" was found on the Yorkville 'Evolution' compilation. The group split up in 1969. Shawne Jackson would later play with The Stone Soul Children alongside future Bush member Prakash John before embarking on a successful solo career in the 1970's and would marry Domenic Troiano; Starr went on to play with Ronnie Hawkins And The Hawks and Robbie Lane & The Disciples, while his replacement, Dave Konvalenko, would subsequently play with Bobby Kris And The Imperials; Fred Keeler would later form Jericho; Vickery would later join Damage; Robertson would become a top session player for Murray McLauchlan, record several easy listening solo records and did frequent musical arrangement jobs for bands like Klaatu and the CBC; Eugene Smith had a successful solo career as well. Fantastic album sleeve too! Godz

Cheers Pete. Hope it's not too bad! Wish I'd kept one I had in the 70s with the alternate design - the one with the crude drawing of a bird with chirrup coming from its beak and no photo. Not as attractive but less common I think. Godz

Which label design was it Pete? And the other copy you have for that matter? And how lesser is the lesser copy while we're at it? Godz

Was this the lot that had the Johhny Ross amongst it Pete? How much did you sell it for? Godz

Yikes!!! I agree with Ken I like Della Reese generally but always thought Clock.. was pretty bobbins. This version is ace though. Godz

I'm with Roccia on this one. They sound extremely similar and it's not as though one was a hit - as in the hundreds (well tens maybe...) of songs that sound like Uptight for example. Wouldn't be the first time that someone had 'borrowed' a tune heard elsewhere Godz

Further to Simon's excellent explanation, here's the link that provides some more detail. This article was the one that finally made the light bulb above my head turn on with an audible "ping!" https://www.unitedrecordpressing.com/tips.html Godz

Because the groove is tighter. Look at the playing area of a single compared to a track on an LP. When you squash the groove like that you sacrifice volume and bass. There's a brilliant explanation somewhere on the net. I'm on the laptop at the moment but if you're really interested give me a shout and I'll send you the link tomorrow. godz

https://www.waxmuseum.net/ Godz

Thanks Pete

Somebody recently bought all the remaining stock belonging to the late Ellis Taylor, the label owner. Consequently there's a lot of Forte stuff about at the moment. Not aware of any boots of this label. Godz

Must be just me then Seems dodgy ever since it made me become a member. Think I'll just stick it on eBay and see what occurs. Ta for your help, Jaco Godz

Just to rub salt in the wounds this has to be one of the worst boots of all time too. If I remember right it sounds like it was a recorded from a JVC cassette recorder off the balcony at Wigan. I think it has the vocal on both sides too. Dance Dance Dance indeed You can say what you want about bootlegging but a lot of those early 70s boots, the thick, heavy vinyl ones (Soussan's?) were excellent quality. Godz

Dunno mate that's why I'm asking. I know John Manship has one for £100 (or did have a while ago - not checked recently) but I wouldn't delude myself that I could get that much. Wouldn't ask that much to be honest, just like to see a few opinions. As an aside is anyone else having problems with Popsike? Damn thing keeps jamming on me. Godz

100% Pure Poison - You Keep Coming Back - EMI International 501. Can anyone give me an idea on the current price for this tune? Thanks in advance Godz

First time I bought a record consciously knowing it was a soul record was Ike & Tina Turner - Nutbush City Limits. Don't think I've bought my last one yet but most recent was Mary Jane Hooper - I've Got Reasons. Godz

Is this record really fetching that much? Great tune and underated - possibly because it's not as 'obvious' as their other on the label, but I would have thought somewhere around £75 was going rate, no? Godz

You're probably right Quinvy, but nonetheless I find that depressing. When I first got into soul music it was a combination of hearing the music and owning the records that did it for me. The obvious next step was an interest in collecting records in general - after all, I wouldn't want to repeat the mistake I made as a fourteen year old when I went "hmm Beatles singles on Polydor - interesting" but still left them at the flea market. Could have had a few decent trades from that lot. My wants posts for old advertising 45s shows that there are others on this forum who take an interest in the world of rare records but I guess you're right in the fact that your post suggests that most would go "Sex Pistols on A&M - not for me sonny - I'm only interested in soul!" Godz

Excellent Godz

Just kidding Chalks - sounds like a rugby channel or summat What did RSF have to say? Godz

I can't get sky... Godz