Godzilla

Not Northern Soul but certainly a soul record despite the 'triphop' tag. The strings completely underpin the mood of the record and evoke the feeling of urban living: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD7OXdMZpr4

I asked about getting a 45 pressed and there was a bit of discussion I would really appreciate some advice about tax and customs now. If I get the record manufactured in Europe and pay sales tax there, what happens when product is shipped to UK? Am I likely to get stung for VAT too? And what about customs charges? Thanks in advance Paul

My main point was that it was common practice for UK acts to cover US songs because they had proven themselves to be hits and thus made commercial sense. In fairness mate, you've applied some pretty rigid thinking in order to make that fit your argument. Mind you I'm not desperate to 'win' any debate so maybe it's not such a big deal. The Otis bit was tongue in cheek by the way.

Hang about Chorley. Didn't you say: "Talented and popular as he was, GEORGIE in fact maintained a lengthy and notable career off the back of Black America. I can think of countless examples wherein white artists actually laid the foundations of lucrative careers by copying Soul artists and there are very FEW who actually stood up and held a seriously supportive flag for the original artists." But now you say: "Nobody is saying that the White Musicians did not admire the Black originators - many of them patently did". Isn't that what part of this whole row..sorry.. thread is about - recognition? Completely lost now, and despite trying to stay on-topic I can't help but point that ALICIA SCHIMENECK is an anagram of 'mechanical sickie'. I am very sorry. Godz

I don't think it can be denied that in the 50s and 60s many black artists were exploited or not given the same opportunities as white ones. The problem to me is when that principle is applied in every case. Then it gets especially muddy when applied to UK cover versions. Plenty of white acts had their records covered in by British acts and released as singles in the UK - off the top of my head there's Billy Fury's cover of Tony Orlando's "Halfway to Paradise" and Susan Maughan's "Bobby's Girl", originally by Marcie Blane. These UK releases were huge hits and totally wiped out the chances of the original artists getting a look-in in Britain. Surely the fact is that UK based artists were better placed to tour and promote the records than someone in the USA, so the colour of the original artist loses some of its relevence. The example of Timebox quoted earlier is a really interesting example, as their biggest hit was a cover of an original by white Italian Americans. Were the Four Seasons being exploited or was this secondary exploitation of black people because some people in the UK consider some Four Seasons records to be performed in a style that apes black music? You also have to take into account that all this talk about 'having soul' is often more important to fans and collectors like us lot than the artists. If you hang around with professional musicians you'll find that most of them are purely interested in whether it's a good song or not. And how about that Otis covering "Satisfaction" Yikes! ps Not keen on either version of Go Now as the song doesn't do it for me, but Georgies version of Sitting in the Park tops Billy's in my book.

Sitting in the Park by Georgie Fame ...oh - hang on. Wrong thread.

There no such word as derivative... ...

You right about that shit... https://www.youtube.c...h?v=FoRHEeBY2-I

UK issue on Stateside too. Flip of Silver Spoon.

Thanks Dave, Do you have an email address for Chris that you could PM to me please? I've been told by one manufacturer that if you want large hole (dinked) 45s they have to be done in Europe as nobody in the UK does them anymore. That seems surprising - can anyone verify? Cheers Paul

and you can f*ck off sh*t stirring Godzilla. oops - sorry. That was me. Really gettin' confused now!

That's fighting talk in this thread

Ronnie and Robyn are well known liberals (always putting leaflets through my grandma's door) while Milton Wright is staunch conservative. He was whupped in our ward by the Spiritualists but I reckon it was a protest vote. Apart from that what you need to know about the politics attached to these records?

Stick em up your arse arnie j !

And you can get stuffed too, Godzilla. Yikes!!! - I'm doing it now

Vince Look at the pictures on the left of the posts mate. The quote that upset you was not posted by the person that offered you the record. Completely different member. Maybe an apology in order? Best, Paul (Godz)

Long running night in Manchester. All a bit mainstream I think... https://www.northernfunk.net/

..and some fell on stony ground I think it was supposed to be "green and clears"... ah forget it...

Should make it clear I'm talking about my pal putting out his band's recordings here - I'm not about to enter the world of bootlegging.

A friend of mine wants to put out a vinyl single. Obviously a google search shows who masters and presses vinyl but I wondered if anyone on here can offer advice on the best manufactures with regards to quality, value for money etc. It would be handy to get some feedback from anyone who has used any UK companies. Looking at a short run here - probably 500 copies max. Thanks in advance Godz

So I was in the library today and while Mrs G checked car vacuum reviews in Which magazine, I browsed the music section, where this book caught my eye... Naturally I looked at the chapter on old soulies and found a description of a chap from Sheffield who had thoroughly enjoyed himself at the stage play of Once Upon a Time in Wigan. As the author puts it: "The two green eclairs he took beforehand can't have done any harm, either"

oops! Been doing T shirts and haven't altered settings - hence enormous scan

Here you go Brian. Same credits on the flip Paul

Don't know where the 'legit' bit comes from

What have you got against flutes?