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Thanks Mike. Nobody could get it, tried shazam etc Not really soul, but very catchy.

Just going through loads of old minidiscs, and can't remember anything about this track. Sounds like a Carolinas thing? Mystery 1 .wav

The original copy was in Andy Killick's possession last time I heard it played out. [Burnley allnighter]

For anyone who loves this track as much as I do. I never knew this existed until yesterday. WILLIE HARPER - HERE COMES THE HURT AGAIN - on a 7” single. Backed by the Lee Dorsey version on the flip!!!! Cheapest I’ve found is on Discogs.

This is Tim’s answer to the warp questions. It has a slight edge warp. Jonathon stated it was there when he bought it...but from where it came i dont know. The chip shop story is not that record ..its the Jades.Manships assertion that it doesnt play is incorrect, i once played it at the Ritz Rarest of the Rare allnighter. Lee Jeffries bought the 2nd copy ex Burrell that Kenny let Frank write all over.

Well I don’t, but I think Tim was unimpressed by certain people rewriting history. I simply posted it as a point of interest for members to read, if they actually gave a FF.

DO I LOVE YOU - THE WHOLE TRUTH! Many of you will have seen the recent Guardian online / Observer newspaper article concerning the furore over the legacy of ‘Do I Love You’ in the wake of Bruce Springsteen’s recent version. If not, we apologise for bringing it up again, but quite simply, Russ Winstanley’s version of events is so distorted (as reported in the article) that I simply had to put on record the TRUTH. I cannot allow the history of the scene to be re-written. Richard Searling’s alternative account in the same article is largely accurate. Quite simply it has to go to arbitration, so here it is… In 1977, Simon Soussan sent at least one acetate of ‘D.I.L.Y.’ over to England identified as Eddie Foster. Winstanley played the cut at Wigan, and it was an instant hit. Shortly after, other deejays were sent early copies of the vinyl bootleg (actually styrene) ‘Eddie Foster’. Soussan had earlier borrowed several Motown discs from Tom De Pierro who was in charge of the Motown archive in L.A. ‘D.I.L.Y.’ was amongst them. Soussan later, upon failing to retain the discs, gave De Pierro money for them. By 1978, Soussan was having big success with disco productions and had turned his back on Northern Soul. He sent his collection over for Les McCutcheon (Colin Bee) to sell for him. McCutcheon had become Soussan’s major outlet for N. Soul. At this point he offered to sell McCutcheon the original of ‘D.I.L.Y.’, bearing in mind no-one knew who it was really by. Upon handing over £200, McCutcheon was astounded to find out that it was a Motown recording. It then remained in McCutcheon’s ownership for a year or more and was lent to Winstanley to play the original for a while. Russ Winstanley never owned the original disc. In a meeting at Colony Records in Nottingham, deejay Jonathan Woodliffe asked McCutcheon if he would sell. “£500” was the reply (bear in mind that the highest price for a N. Soul record was £180 at this time). A deal was done under which Woodliffe paid for the disc in instalments. This was in 1979. By the following year and now deejaying in jazz funk circles, Jonathan swapped the disc with Kev Roberts in exchange for £500 of 12” releases. It then remained in Kev’s possession until sold to me for £5,000 in 1991. At this time the only N. Soul record to have sold for a thousand pounds or more was Robby Lawson’s ‘Burning Sensation’ (sold by Anglo American to a Yorkshire collector). It was at this juncture that Martin Koppel located a second copy in the possession of Detroit record guru Ron Murphy. Murphy also had a test press of Chris Clarke’s unreleased version which had been destined for V.I.P. Records originally. In 1995, Murphy sold Anglo American his entire collection, which included a mint, unmarked copy of ‘D.I.L.Y.’. This, in turn, was sold to Scottish deejay Kenny Burrell for £15,000 in 1999. 2001 saw Goldmine Soul Supply bring Frank Wilson over to sing his songs at the Fleetwood weekender. This saw Wilson (who was no pauper after writing many Motown hits) offer me £35,000 for my copy (which was refused). Wilson had been unaware of an original SOUL label release until the nineties, or even of a re-release of it. At this point the story becomes rather better known and we will leave it there, suffice it to say that a few years ago a test pressing turned up in Detroit and was purchased by Jack White, formerly of The White Stripes garage rock band. The two original copies are the only ones known to exist. Tim Brown 24.11.22 (exactly 57 years and a day after the original was ‘approved’ by Norman Whitfield at Motown’s offices)

Looking for a copy of Sonny Childe and TNT - Heartbreaker - UK Polydor Please PM with price and condition.

I wasn’t implying there is anything untoward with any auction. Simply stating that no online auction is “totally transparent” The only way this could be achieved, would be to have the bidders real names displayed for all to see. At one time, you could see who was bidding on eBay, and you could see who was selling. You could even contact each other, without eBay getting involved. Now, you have no clue whether bids are real or false.

I don’t see how any internet auction can be classed as “totally transparent” unless the name of every bidder is visible to all. Mr Manship’s auction has pseudonyms that could be anyone or no one, and we’ve all seen the shill bidding and other shenanigans that go on on eBay.

Last Auction - Results.... Thanks to everyone who participated in our recent auction. We always aim to let the winners know within an hour of the closing time that they have won. Unfortunately we can't let all the unsuccessful bidders know, so if you don't hear from us after the auction, you didn't win, apologies. For anyone interested in the winning bids from our last Rare Soul Auction - here they are.... Four Real, Inc. (Flying Eagles 129) - £360 Homer Banks (Genie 101) - £404 Jimmy McFarland (RPR 108) - £510 Alex Brown (Sundi 316) - £710 Gospel Mets (Budweiser Showdown 502) - £150 Johnny Guitar Watson (Jowat 118) - £315 Earl Jackson (ABC 11142 dj) - £1,005 Johnny McRae (City Core 101) - £250 Gloria Grey (Warner Bros. 5287 dj) - £150 Mathew Brown (Sew City 108) - £200 Ed Crook (Tri Sound 601) - £225 Gloria Fowler & The Entros (C. J. 654) - £272 Jackie Lee (ABC 11146 dj) - £260 Kenny Wells (New Voice 812 dj) - £690 Ruby Andrews (Zodiac 1010) - £225 The Changing Scene (Co-Town 1440) - £300 Paul Anka (RCA Victor 47-9457 dj) - £215 The Invitations (Dynovoice 215 dj) - £315

I’ve had the opportunity to view the new version of this book recently. I thought that I would give you my unbiased opinion, in case you’re thinking of buying a copy. The original was an interesting read, in that it’s just one person’s opinion on our favourite music. The scans weren’t the best, (black & white)and it was difficult to locate a particular record without trawling through the pages. The new version however is much better in this respect. Colour scans, and an alphabetical index make this a useful reference book, and ideal for your record room or coffee table. You won’t agree with the writers choices. Our scene has become so diverse that would be impossible to achieve a universally accepted top 500. I was pleased to see a rare top 500 is also included in the book. You probably won’t agree with this either, but it is interesting and a welcome addition to the book. The only disappointment is that not all the rare records have label scans included. Personally, I would have preferred that to some of the “filler” pictures and top tens etc. All in all, I think it’s well worth buying. Interesting and a decent reference book. Recommended ****

Auction ends Thursday the 8th at 6pm https://raresoulvinyl.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=70ea9b5bbb1b63c5ce9c70f28&id=8144ba8a81&e=e63e365793

Thanks to everyone who participated in our recent auction. We always aim to let the winners know within an hour of the closing time that they have won. Unfortunately we can't let all the unsuccessful bidders know, so if you don't hear from us after the auction, you didn't win, apologies. For anyone interested in the winning bids from our last Rare Soul Auction - here they are.... The Appointments (Redd Coach 732) - £1,250 The Barrino Brothers (TCB 100) - £400 Nelson Sanders (Rambler 3001) - £1,012 Almeta Lattimore (Mainstream 5575) - £450 Tommy Bush (Rika 108) - £1,025 September Jones (Kapp 802 dj) - £445 Don And Juan (Mala 509 dj) - £200 The Parliaments (Revilot 211 dj) - £150 Sam & Kitty (Four Brothers 452) - £280 Jacqueline Jones (Loadstone 3953) - £670 Joanie Sommers (Warner Bros. 5629 dj) - £403 Anthony Burns (Castleway 2933) - £150 Bobby Reed (Clay Town 17700 dj) - £260 Eloise Laws (Music Merchant 1013 dj) - £250 Trade Martin (Stallion 1003) - £200 Zenobia Bonner (Accident 101) - £500 Enchantments (Faro 620 dj) - £510 The Elements (Big Street 3603) - £245

Last Auction - Results.... Thanks to everyone who participated in our recent auction. We always aim to let the winners know within an hour of the closing time that they have won. Unfortunately we can't let all the unsuccessful bidders know, so if you don't hear from us after the auction, you didn't win, apologies. For anyone interested in the winning bids from our last Rare Soul Auction - here they are.... Angela & The Group (Lance 1001) - £810 Vanguards (Lamp 94) - £2,130 Backyard Construction (B.Y.C. Prod. 1000) - £500 Cindy Scott (Veep 1253 dj) - £300 Chuck Ray (Tam-Boo 6719) - £490 Soul Sisters (Sue 148) - £305 Little Reuben (New 602) - £965 Sonny Jones (Tune-Kel 607) - £250 Jerry Williams (Calla 116 dj) - £210 The Intentions (Tiki 172) - £760 Howard Guyton (Verve 10386 dj) - £287 Jay Bee & Mighty Sensations (Thunderbolt) - £710 Tan Geers (Okeh 4-7319) - £1,010 Jack Montgomery (Scepter 12152) - £325 Floyd Beck (Timeless 001) - £500 The Jelly Beans (Eskee 10,001) - £225 Willie Brown (Tri-Som 910) - £240 Elements Of Love (Brown Duck 101) - £230

Well, I wasn’t saying it was a northern soul classic or anything. But just going off the type of record that the desperate to find something new are putting up on Facebook etc. Then at least it’s got a dance beat. I’ve moved on from the soul scene personally. Although I’ll always love the music. It’s had it last hurrah as far as I’m concerned.

Ha ha, typical!

Don’t know what you’re on about. The “has” version is far superior to me. The beat lends itself to dancing. The “have” version is “ponderous” to say the least. The “has” issue is much rarer too. I’ve never heard that version played out.

Blimey! Original post had been obliterated. I don’t understand why you would go into all that detail about a rare but rubbish version of a totally different record to the one I was asking about? The Leon Haywood version is far superior in every way. Backing track is very reminiscent of Mr Lucky, and that’s a record I would love to own. Still.

Many thanks for the information guys. It was new to me, and definitely something that I would have played out.

Thanks for the input. I wonder who had it covered up?

Blimey! I can’t believe that nobody knows this?

Anglo American Auction Results Last Auction - Results.... Thanks to everyone who participated in our recent auction. We always aim to let the winners know within an hour of the closing time that they have won. Unfortunately we can't let all the unsuccessful bidders know, so if you don't hear from us after the auction, you didn't win, apologies. For anyone interested in the winning bids from our last Rare Soul Auction - here they are.... Pookie Hudson (Jamie 1319 dj) - £947 Focal Point (Lakeside 1011) - £220 Margaret Mandolph (Planetary 106) - £775 Doug Banks (Argo 5483) - £260 Ted Ford (Stallion 001) - £265 Jeanette Harper (20th Century-Fox 6683) - £350 The Topics (Mercury 73447 dj) - £1,000 Starlet El (Dagger 105) - £150 Calvin Williams (Target 501) - £332 Deena Johnson (Simpson 102) - £175 Sonny Til (Clown 3061) - £450 The Milestones (Andre 706) - £800 The Coasters (Atco 6379 dj) - £420 The Swan Silvertones (Hob Is Gospel 1356) - £220 The Chantlers (Ches-Love 42070) - £412 Tony Drake (Brunswick 55437 dj) - £450 Houston Outlaws (Westbound 211 dj) - £400 John Edwards (Bell 45205) - £450

Just played this record on Tim Brown’s auction, and I rather like it. Something that I would certainly have played at Burnley, and I think would have been well received by the children of the night. Tim states that it has been covered up as Big Daddy Rodgers in the past? I’ve never heard it, or even heard of it. It must be rare? Who covered it and played it? https://youtu.be/GgcLHWBXRFk