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I didn't know that Steve.

I went to one a few months ago Neil. I didn't see you there. It was terrible. No wonder you like the music there, you can't actually hear it. Bang bang bang. I couldn't believe it. Why should I be bitter? I couldn't give a monkeys. I just couldn't believe how you lot were biggin' it up, when the sound system is so badly set up. I only went to listen to Cliff's new plays. Waste of time, couldn't hear a thing.

I was talking about the fact that I used to provide an area especially for sales with tables/chairs/lighting and power supplies for the sellers. If you don't provide this they won't come. There was never a shortage of vinyl for sale in my day. I was also saying that there is hardly any seating available now. We struggled to find a seat when I went. My point being that I put a massive amount of effort into my nighters. And you could hear every word and note of the records being played. I couldn't tell what the **** was being played the other month. The fact that you and the other patrons of Sean's events think they are fantastic just goes to show how I wasted many hours of time and effort. What a **** I am.

It's got nothing to do with stress levels Neil. I wouldn't let the wannabe Dj's on at Burnley. And there was non of this you Dj at mine, and I'll Dj at yours b*llocks. That's why a lot of people wouldn't come to my nighters. They knew they wouldn't get a spot, simple as that. Sean has joined the DJ circus, good luck to him. No disrespect to Sean, but he isn't running it every month like I was. And when I went the other month it was nothing like when I ran it. ie. no record sales area set out with lighting and power supplies, very few tables and chairs, and the sound system was terrible. He is also in a much better financial position than I will ever be. If Chris Burton is The Torch, then I am Burnley. What's there now is a pale imitation of what it was.

Well said Paul. This stuff is going on all the time believe me. At one time I was more or less told to change my dates because my nighter was on the same weekend as another that was 120 miles away. Mine was on a Friday night theirs was on the Saturday. I kid you not. And I bloody did it, because if you offend some of these people, they will set everyone against you. I would never promote anything on this scene again. The bitterness and hatred that exists is beyond belief.

Sorry I meant never seen one for sale.

Any update on this Ian?

Wow! I've never even seen a demo.

To be honest, I would be having words with the venue owner. To me it's his fault that this is happening, not another promoter. If the venue owner was happy with his lot, then he wouldn't be accepting bookings from another promoter. When I was running Burnley, I know for a fact that other so called "mates" tried to book the venue without approaching me. But because the venue owner was a decent bloke he wouldn't entertain them. If he had I would have walked away, simple as that.

SALES LIST 636 Please click on the link.

Melvin Carter - Midnight Brew That was an Ian Levine record - Johnny Jones - Let's Shing-a-ling at the go go.

Probably why I never liked it then. Stop shouting woman.

I agree. Problem is, no bugger buys owt. You can have a box of fantastic records for sale, and most of the folk who look through it wouldn't have a clue what they were looking at. I know because I've sat there for many hours trying to sell stuff. This is a true story. Quite a few years ago now, I went down to the Prestatyn weekender. I couldn't get there until Saturday night but I wanted to look through some records that Tim Brown was selling for Martin Copell. I was worried that all the best stuff would be gone, but apart from one 45 that Sam had bought, I found three absolute bargains. Now an awful lot of people had looked through those boxes. Yet there they were just waiting for me. My point being, if those records had been put up for sale on line, there's not a chance in hell that I would have got them. Bloody Ted Massey would.

That says it all!

Rod, sales at events have been getting worse for years and years. Like everything else it's all about on line sales these days. Nobody can be arsed trawling through bloody great boxes of mainly crap anymore. Not when a few minutes on Google can turn up the record you are searching for.

It's all about opinions though Mik. To me it's a nothing record. I'm not going to change my mind just because somebody is playing it. If it was good it would have been played long ago surely? To me it just shows how desperate people are to find something different to play.

Many thanks John, I thought it was that one but I couldn't find a track listing.

I have always loved his version of "I don't know why I love you" ever since I heard Richard Searling play it on his radio show many years ago. However, it appears to have been removed from You Tube so I can't even play it now, so I need to know which album it came out on so I can buy it. I presume it wasn't a single release as I've never seen it. Any help much appreciated.

I always thought it was a £20 record? Personally never liked it.

I really hope that post is "tongue in cheek"?

This could get interesting. Where's Paul Sadot?

Greedy promoters / venue owners?

No offence to anyone, but I had a Kenwood separates a few years ago which was fine when it was working. Trouble is I had to keep getting the CD deck cleaned and re set every few weeks. I have also tried the Project turntables because they were highly rated by the critics. I personally found them bloody awful. Pissing about with lead wieghts on bits of fishing line, and the volume was very low. Oh and changing belts. Not for me I'm afraid. The Technics 1200 series may not be up to the sound quality of the Hi-fi geeks. But I'm not playing mint condition stereo albums, I'm playing US sixties 45's. It's more important to me that the deck has a strobe to enable perfect turntable speed, and is easy to set up and has bomb proof reliability with easy to get spare parts. Please steer clear of buying any all in one music centre, because they always skimp on the turntable. Buying the very best separates you can afford is the way to go.

No I haven't. I've attended nights of a similar ilk many times. They were all musically bloody awful. What a ridiculous Statement. Look through the list of the best selling songs since the 1930's. Loads of mad lyrics especially with records about dance crazes, and novelty songs a plenty. Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey A kiddley divey too, Wouldn't you?"