Quinvy

I don't know about other areas of the country, but there is a promoter in my area that must be involved in half a dozen promotions. Same promoter, same Dj's, same punters. Just a different local town and venue. He more or less has the oldies scene sewn up. People say that the unsuccessful nights will close. No they won't, not when the venues don't charge anything and people will DJ for nothing. That's what you are up against these days. Venues are struggling to stay in business, and as long as they get a few in drinking, that's all they care about. And wannabe Dj's who will kill for a spot. Don't even need to charge a door tax. Result: events = tons of them, quality = zero.

It's a vicious circle, if you don't invite everyone and their dog to Dj at your event, they won't come to support it. Simple as that. Even if your event has the best music in the world, people will definitely NOT come. I tried it

Mmmmmm, someone is taking a risk. That venue won't come cheap, let's hope they get the support.

Old age and no new sixties. That's what is killing the scene.

Was discussing the crazy prices of classics with a friend the other night. He thought that maybe the recent release of people's pension funds could be a contributing factor. There certainly seems to be a plethora of people with a lot of spare cash. If only I was one of them.

I posted this but nobody commented. /forums/topic/340802-reuben-james-richards-we-always-be-together/

I presume you are talking about the Rita Lee there Chalky? What's the story with the Cresa Watson then. Don't think I've ever heard it.

Blimey! Has nobody else heard it?

I know a lot of people who won't even bother with a record they really want if it's on one of the big auctions. They think it will go for silly money, so puts them off even bidding. The thing is with a set sale price, it doesn't give potential buyers the time to think about it. You snooze, you lose.

never seen the Cressa Watson, ever. How many known?

I keep hearing this on Radio 2. Bloody good I think, and very "northern" sounding.

Like I have said before, the wanna be Dj's must have. The power of Butch does it again.

Yes that's original. Hang on a minute, didn't the boot have upper hand on both sides mono / stereo? Rings a bell. I reckon that's a good one Craig well done.

The boot I remember was terrible sound quality. The intro sounded like it was split between the two channels. The run out is nearly an inch The original, the sound quality is fantastic. The run out is around a quarter of an inch.

I think we would all like the "specialness" of the midnight to eight a.m. allnighter, because that's a "proper" allnighter. And the romance of that appeals to my romantic nature. But don't forget that in the old days there was no alcohol involved. How many would turn up these days for a midnight to eight a.m. nighter with just soft drinks? We can't turn back the clocks. It's Sunday afternoon tea dances from now on. I still think that an 8 pm start time is just too "normal" for a nighter though.

Like I said earlier. Very difficult to get venue owner and staff to work those hours. There is no ordinary throwing out time at pubs and clubs like there used to be. Everyone is doing all nighters these days. Unfortunately times have changed.

I thought Mr Manship sold an acetate of this a few years ago, didn't he. I personally thought it was dreadful.

yes but they all have an angled head shell/cart.

yes but the head shell is angled on those decks. Straight tone arm with the straight head shell and straight cart = knackered 45's

If you read that link, you would be a bit dim to play valuable 45's on a straight tone arm.

Exactly, all tone arms were angled until these scratch decks appeared.

If these straight arms give no ill effects, why have tone arms been angled since they were first invented? I thought these arms were designed for scratching? I personally wouldn't be playing my vinyl on one. I have seen plenty of these decks being used with the cart set straight in the head shell. Many users don't read instructions unfortunately. You only have to Dj at a few do's to see how many decks are set up completely wrong.

That's the reason I wanted to run my allnighter from 12 till 8 Len. I had been speaking to Guy H about promoting, and he told me a great story about his time running Tony's in Blackburn. Standing accross the road from the venue having a fag on a frosty night at the witching hour, with a huge queue outside the venue. The excitement and the anticipation when the opening bars of a tune suddenly came from the room above. The crowd started to chant to be let in. Pure magic from Mr. H, and that's what I was hoping to achieve with my allnighter. It should be about the quality of the experience, not a marathon to be endured. Just my humble opinion, and as an old git who doesn't do drugs or drink. Short and sweet would suit me sir.

10 hours, not for me personally. But then I only went for the music, not the social side. I used to struggle to find one hours decent music over a whole nighter. But I realise that I am the exception to the rule.

When I started Burnley I wanted to get back to the original ethos and go from midnight to eight a.m. Venue owner said "no way we can get the staff to work those hours" so I had to change it to 11pm to 6am. Then a lot of the punters wanted me to start earlier because they were having to hang around in the pubs waiting for opening time. So it finished up running 10pm to 6am. But as we all know, these days a large number leave early. I think it's immaterial what the promoter states on the flyers, people will use the event as they want regardless. We are [apart from the small young element] all too old, and have too many commitments to do allnighters properly. Allnighters by their very nature were part of a youth culture, anti establishment and underground. Sunday afternoon do's are getting to be the norm these days. I certainly couldn't do nighters any more. Never mind early finishes, what about early start times for allnighters? 8.00pm? that's ludicrous.