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Mik, I'd just like to say that I have agreed whole heartedly with everything you have written on this subject. And you have expressed yourself very eloquently, and so much better than my feeble attempts..... I look forward to meeting you at Middleton, and would be pleased to buy you a drink.... Best regards, Phil.

Many thanks that's brilliant.

Can anyone help me find the link to the Keb Darge interview that was on this site a while back. I've just got a new pc and I've lost all my favourites. Thanks, Phil.

Yes Dave, I had one that was mint and not a blemish on the label either. I think it came from Soul Bowl, £150 if my memory serves. The run out was very small and the matrix numbers were really neatly done. Don't have it now, think it may have gone to John Manship with a box full when I was selling up..... I didn't realise that the issue was rarer, that's why I paid so much for the demo. Great record though, must be a contender for best sax middle eight ever. Best, Phil.

OBSOLUTELY SPOT ON

Well put Mike, that's exactly what I meant to say but I ballsed it up.

Sorry Ken not me this time.

Appologies, Beardsy infered it was a boot. Let's face it genuine re-issues are few and far between. Hands held up.

****ing awesome tune.

And another kindred spirit.

Thank goodness a kindred spirit. Oh no they've not booted the Trannels now have they. Been at the top end of my wants list for quite some time.

Sorry sold it to one of the Greatstone boys for £100 I think, then got one with a rough label but traded it with Cliff [deadwood] Not seen one since then, lovely tune though.

Now that really is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard. Where do you think the records come from in the first place? Some collector or dj found it, bought it, played it and got it popular. And my guess is they did it so that they could play it out and get people dancing, and yes, make it there own. Why should somebody make an illegal copy off that record and make money off it, and you think that that's OK..... If you take away the magic of exclusivity of the music, then you kill the scene. That's exactly what's happening now. No need to travel to hear the music, just set up your own night playing boots/re-issues & CD's. It's just down the road so I can get pissed and stagger home.... Good luck to you, but not for me. I presume from what you say in your hollier than thou post, that you buy all the cheapest brands of everything, and the money that you saved goes to charity. You must be a saint.

Some good points there Dan and you could well be right. That wasn't a review, that was me saying enough is enough and changing the format and venue. Too much on a Saturday night now, so moved to a friday and changed to an allnighter. Going well at the moment mate, but we'll see what happens Sept 1st.... As for owning the big records being easier now, that's bollocks if you don't mind me saying so. If Ian Levine hadn't had money? and I've heard stories of the big names of the eighties buying all the quality unknowns and making a big name for themselves. It's always been the same, you just see it now because of the inernet. DJ'ing with boots & re-issues to me is a big if you are happy with the scene as it is then I'm happy for you. I aren't and I'm trying to do something about it in my own small way. At least I can say that I tried.

If you just want to play them at home you can get most tunes on CD. If you want to dj you have to make sacrifices. It's like in any other hobby/pastime/sport/passion in life. If you want to play you have to put the effort in. By paying for boots and so called re-issues you are lining the pockets of the business men, and comercialising an underground scene. If you can't afford the big tunes, find the cheap quality 45s like many others do. But DJ'ing with boots/re-issues

Hi Baz, I got a bit hot under the collar there. It's a very imotive subject is it not? I have no doubt that the cheaper record spot would be fresh, but would I ever want to hear any of the records again? At the end of the day we all have our own opinions, and long may it be so. I do actually own/and play some cheap records believe it or not. But that's not what I was on about. It's the playing of bootlegs/re-issues that pisses me off...... The people who actually boot/re-issue records are the real problem here. I personally have no time for them. They are just interested in money in my humble opinion. Some of the 45s that have been so called re-issued lately haven't even had chance to get popular. The Saints springs to mind..... The thing that got me into this music in the first place was I loved it, but had to travel miles to hear it, cos it was rare and not easily accessable. And the DJ's were looking for new and rarer tunes that nobody else had. Elitist? hell yes, and thats what it's all about to me..... Nowadays all anyone seems worried about is what time the bar is open till. Yeh thats real passion for the music. I think if some people actually went out and stayed sober they may just be less inclined to want to hear the same old records every week..... Just my opinion of course

Pete, Both sides can be played on John Manships rarest of the rare. Bloody awfull to my ears.

Sorry my friend but you have used a ridiculous example. Mick H is a smashing bloke, but he is obviously a wealthy man. I, on the other hand am not. For me it's an obsession. I spend vast amounts of money that I don't have, and struggle to make ends meet. No fancy cars or foreign holidays for me. Don't imagine that all the people who pay the ridiculous prices for records are all wealthy. Cos they're not. They are the ones who are REALLY passionate about this scene..... You are talking about something you have no experiance of, and I would presume that you like the classic oldies, and attend Mr. Roberts events..... Though I may be wrong

Here, here, nail on head time..... And when you've actually paid four figures for a record and some wannabe dj plays the boot before you go on, then and only then will you know what you are talking about. It's the reason that there are hundreds of events on every weekend. And the reason that the scene is splitting in two. One, Retro scene. And the rare/upfront/something different scene. It's the easiest thing in the world to pack a dance floor at a "soul night" just play the old favourites over and over again. Then stand back smugly with your arms folded and bask in your glory...... Thing is, £200 and a trip to Beatin Rhythm in Manchester is all it takes. If thats good enough for you then god help our scene.

Is it just me then that thinks both sides are rubbish.

Now you know what it's like Ted, that's why people keep posting saying they can't read final prices. I haven't been able to for ages now so I asked John what the crack was...... It appears that John saw the link on here and didn't like the idea of us being able to see the final bids. He said that someone had hacked into his site in order to acheive this link, so he got his site boffins to alter it...... Apparently some can still get the prices, so it's something to do with your software maybe..... Thanks for the soundfile though Ted, much obliged Best regards, Phil.

--> QUOTE(Geoff B @ Aug 5 2006, 03:56 PM) link Hi Phil, Didn't know this came out,it's not listed on my Diamond Jim listing,is it supposed to be a different version of the Steptones Leave us alone on 'Big D'? Geoff Buckley. WHALLEY&BILLINGTON BRASS BAND CLUB.With Fred Krol&Geoff Buckley Friday 11th August,Guest D.J The infamous Mr Rod Shard. 8 till 12.30. £3otd. Hi Geoff, Well I'm lying actually, Dickie played it at The Cricket Club last year and I thought it was fantastic. Since then Cliff got it off Dickie and I have no chance of getting him to play it for me, let alone do me a cd...... My only hope is to get him to play it at The Burnley Allnighter next month... You know what he's like, SECRET SQUIRREL It's also in Tim Browns guide so he must have it I presume.