Pete S

I think the mark of a great record is that you can listen to it at anytime, anywhere, and it'll either bring a smile to your face or a shiver to your spine...

Those Motown records are the bedrock of the scene though! I've heard I'll Always Love You and This Old heart Of Mine probably 5000 times, they never sound stale or boring, they are just perfection.

I only threw in the word 50's originally because one or two records like that were creeping in. But again, if you were to ask me - what would you rather hear - 50's R&B or 70's soul - I'd reply in the former. But I'd rather hear neither of them if I could just hear 60's.

Wigan played Gene McDaniels "Walk with a winner"...gerri Granger was hardly 100 mph

This topic has just gone mental so here was the original question: Which Era Supplies the Best Newies Of Today ? The answer is: the 60's unless anyone can actually provide proof that it's not...like share with us an 80's discovery that's better than, I don't know, The Group featuring cecil washington

Don't worry, they'll leave you alone if I'm still on the topic, you watch. Soon as I go off to have my tea, watch your back!

Sorry to be picky but wasn't it STUDIO 54 not Studio 57?

No problem

Well they certainly did at The Wheel. Why would they have played them at the other venues when there were thousands of 60's sides around and R&B was three decades away?

All 'soul' music was called rhythm and blues until about 1964.

Good grief!

I like wooden blocks being banged together and washboards too. Don't like synthesisers on "soul" records.

Oh yes, and what have you got against spoons then?

Yes but it doesn't, does it, otherwise we'd hear 90% 70's+ and 10% 60's and not vice versa. Why do people such as yourselves and Paul Sadot always have to use words like "luddite" against anyone who disagrees with you? People hear this stuff, decide it's not for them, and stick with what they know. That doesn't mean they CAN'T moce on to other stuff, it means they don't want to. And what's wrong with that? Why change something that's not broken just for your own selfish purposes - I like this therefore everyone should seems to be what some of you are saying.

Now this really does make me laugh considering the appalling way you treated and spoke to Ian Levine...bigoted isn't half of it.

Blimey, nobody is saying people shouldn't or can't prefer 70's, 80's, 90's soul, but it's just a totally different genre of music to what most people consider to be Northern Soul, thats all. And yes, I did say MOST.

Opportunity for what?

Well those are great records and there are hundreds like them but there are countless thousands of sub-standard works from the same period that are now classed as "northern" - all these crossover records for a start - and the fact is that a lot of people just can't relate to these type of records but can relate to the music's original source - Rhythm & Blues.

No, a venue, not a playgroup meeting.

I sell what people want to buy Paul, that's why I sold almost everything on my list today, if I sold obscure newies only I wouldn't have been able to do what I'm doing for so long, so I think I've probably got it right. Your capree record is f*cking awful, I said that when you posted it 2 years ago. People danced to Bryan Hyland, it didn't mean it was any good. And you can try and insult me all you like, your opinion means absolutely nothing so why waste your time doing it?

Ah here he comes, thinks he's got someone he can pick on now. It's not my fault if you haven't got a clue what constitutes northern soul Paul. Where are all these fantastic discoveries then? These ultra obscure things you keep banging on about which nobody else has ever heard of, never get played anywhere and have as much chance of "going big" as I do of being president of the Green party? The 70's that used to get played at those venues you mention, which you probably pretend you went to, were in the main uptempo 4/4 dancers. Not funk or crossover.

Well I asked the person who bought the record if he'd like the sleeve and he said yes so I gave it him.

It was actually with the item below but I believe 100% that it was not originally with that item!

It'll wash cleaner than your analogy that 70's soul is more akin to the classic 60's soul though. I just can't see it, sorry, and the litmus test is that IF it did relate to 60's soul, then I would immediately open my ears to it and like it wouldn't I, which is what automatically happens when I hear a 60's sounding record. When I hear a 70's sounding record, I just shut down because the elements that make great 60's soul music have been replaced by something else. One of your examples, the O'Jays "Love Train" has absolutely nothing in common with 60's styles whatsoever, nothing - apart from the vocalists. n.b. this is in fact akin to you telling me that because I like 60's rocksteady that I should enjoy 70's roots reggae, but I detest 70's roots reggae because - and here we go again - it sounds nothing like the 60's music!

Always love it when this happens...got an email the other day.. "Thanks for featuring one of my songs on your upcoming podcast! I am Ray of Ray & Dave - Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. I am 63 years old now I recorded that song back in 1965. And soon afterward was drafted into the Army and went to Viet Nam! Thanks and God Bless for remembering our music. Ray "Doc Love" Caldwell, Sr."