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Good question...yes it is

Where's Mr John Manship when you need him...

PETE SMITH 14 MARKET LANE LOWER PENN WOLVERHAMPTON WV4 4UJ 01902 340255 07784 507360 Pete.smith@freeuk.com HI, WELCOME TO THIS WEEKS LIST AND THERE’S SOME CRACKING STUFF THIS WEEK INCLUDING AN UNUSUALLY LARGE AMOUNT OF RARE DEMOS FOR SOME REASON. ALL RECORDS ARE CONSERVATIVELY GRADED AND COMPETITIVELY PRICED! THE EX GRADE IS VERY STRONG. NAP = NOT AFFECTING PLAY US ORIGINALS THE ARTISTICS – HOPE WE HAVE – BRUNSWICK YELLOW DEMO EX 60 SOLD Can’t tell you how tough this is to find, a very very rare demo – also has the lovely I’m Gonna Miss You on the other side of course. Couple of marks NAP. MAXINE BROWN – AM I FALLING IN LOVE – ABC DEMO EX 60 Great copy, vinyl BOBBIE JEAN BLAND – I’M SATISFIED JUST LOVING YOU – SACK M- 60 SOLD Classic gritty Chicago sound, big voiced lady vocals. Tough one to find. WILLIAM BONNY – LOVE LOVE LOVE – MERCURY EX 20 Great version, a real old Torch stomper TOWANDA BARNES – YOU DON’T MEAN IT – A & M DEMO EX 85 SOLD Fantastic oldie THE CLOVERS – TRY MY LOVON’ ON YOU – JOSIE DEMO EX- 40 SOLD Plays fine but has a couple of marks on the vinyl, hence price THE CHARMAINES – ETERNALLY – DATE DEMO M- 30 Forgotten Mecca oldie THE CAPTIONS – DON’T TAKE YOUR ARMS AWAY FROM ME – MILLAGE M 40 SOLD Beautiful midtempo group sound, stunning GENE CHANDLER – I CAN TAKE CARE OF MYSELF – CONSTELLATION VG++ 25 SOLD This is the “Constellation” stars design label, lovely BILLIE DEARBORN – YOU NEED ME TO LOVE YOU – BELL DEMO EX- 40 Used to be a £100+ record a few years back – nice midtempo/beat ballad girl 45 JOEY DEE & THE STARLIGHTERS – IT’S GOT YOU – JUBILEE DEMO EX 40 Totally mad Wigan oldie from the very early days – weird space sound effects subside to a real stomper in the old fashioned sense of the word. Don’t think it gets much turntable time nowadays but it’s one of those ‘lost’ oldies and I know for a fact I’ve never had a copy before. THE ENTERTAINERS – LOVE IN MY HEART – SYMBOL DEMO EX+ 100 SOLD Absolute belter, rare white demo of this floorpacker, good price too THE EMBERS – IT AIN’T NO BIG THING – BELL DEMO EX 25 Great version SKIP EASTERLING – KEEP THE FIRE BURNING – ALON EX- 35 SOLD Someone asked me to keep them the next copy of this I got but I’m afraid I lost the note I made of who it was, sorry – New Orleans stormer, brilliant dancer, few marks NAP JACKIE EDWARDS – KEEP ON RUNNING – WIRL VG++ 40 SOLD The rare original version, not sure if there was a USA release, few marks but this is a great copy considering the state that they are usually in SAM FLETCHER – I’D THINK IT OVER – TOLLIE DEMO EX- 260 Definite styrene original – only EX- due to some superficial marks – plays beautifully and still packs the floor of course. DARROW FLETCHER – THE PAIN GETS A LITTLE DEEPER – GROOVY EX 25 Wheel classic PHIL FLOWERS – DISCONTENTED – DOT DEMO M- 40 Beautiful looking green demo of this Torch classic TOMMY GOOD – BABY I MISS YOU – GORDY EX 50 SOLD Brilliant Motown dancer, good version of Leaving Here on the B side as well ROY HANDY – BABY THAT’S A GROOVE – STEPHANYE WHITE DEMO M 50 This looks brilliant as a white demo – might be the first I’ve ever had ISAAC HAYES – LAURA / SWEET TEMPTATION – SAN AMERICAN EX 20 Incredibly this books at 100 quid elsewhere, no idea why! Early tracks, 63-64. CHUCK JACKSON – HAND IT OVER – WAND DEMO EX 30 SOLD Rare demo and has the bonus of having the gorgeous Look Over Your Shoulder on the B side JIMMY JONES – WALKIN’ – ROULETTE M- 30 SOLD Old 100 Club biggie JERRY JACKSON – IT’S ROUGH OUT THERE – PARKWAY DEMO EX 115 SOLD With the absolutely phenomenal I’m Gonna Paint A Picture on the B side, this is about as good a double sider that exists. Vinyl is EX, there is a small label stain top left and a small name in biro at the bottom. B side also has a small stain in the same place but no writing. WALTER JACKSON – IT’S AN UPHILL CLIMB TO THE BOTTOM – OKEH DEMO EX- 25 Killer beat ballad. B side label has water damage to a third of the label MARV JOHNSON – COME ON AND STOP – UNITED ARTISTS DEMO M 60 SOLD Possibly an unplayed copy. FRAN JEFFRIES – GONE NOW – MONUMENT DEMO EX 50 Tiny little edge bend not affecting play – half book price MARY ELLEN (GRAHAM) – FORGETFULNESS – GRAMO VG++ 125 An unknown to me, excellent (black) girl vocals, midtempo dancer, nice B side too but no idea what it’s called as presumably whoever was promoting the disc only wanted the A side played so they stuck some tape over the title of the B side! On a tiny Los Angeles indie, this one books at 250 quid! (B side is Still Waters Run Deep and is very indemand on the popcorn scene - thanks to Adam for the info) BARBARA MERCER – CALL ON ME – CAPITOL DEMO EX 40 Two class sides from Detroit’s Sidra label POINTER SISTERS – SEND HIM BACK – ATLANTIC DEMO EX 80 SOLD Has one mark NAP otherwise gorgeous, on vinyl too for a change, last ones I’ve had have been styrene. JOAN REGAN – DON’T TALK TO ME ABOUT LOVE – COLUMBIA DEMO M- 40 With a nice promotional picture sleeve of Miss Regan too THE SENSATIONS WITH YVONNE BAKER – I CAN’T CHANGE – JUNIOR DEMO EX- 50 The rare first issue # 1010, Mend The Torn Pieces of course on the flip, this is a rare demo, again one or two marks so price adjusted THE SWEET THREE – I WOULD IF I COULD – CAMEO DEMO EX 30 Forgotten oldie – nice grey/white demo LEE TILLMAN – ALL THESE THINGS – MICHELLE EX 50 Rare issue, only ever seen white demos before JACKIE TRENT – YOU BABY – EMIDISC ACETATE EX 50 SOLD Original acetate from 1966, one sided, just has title and artist on the label and a date stamp 28 JAN 1966, nice little one off and 100% genuine THE VAN DYKES – SAVE MY LOVE FOR A RAINY DAY – MALA ISSUE M- 200 SOLD I think you’d go a long way to find a nicer copy than this one – beautiful issue copy. THE VOLCANOS – IT’S AGAINST THE LAWS OF LOVE – ARCTIC VG++ 45 SOLD Plays fine – this one is again a 100% 1960’s first press DANNY WHITE – CRACKED UP OVER YOU – DECCA DEMO EX 40 Some records are common as issues but never turn up on demo – this Danny White is a good example, see hundreds of issues but never see the pink demo. BABY WASHINGTON – THINK ABOUT THE GOOD TIMES – VEEP DEMO M- 25 Nice lesser known on good old vinyl BILLY WATKINS – THE ICE MAN – ERA DEMO EX- 50 Forgotten Wigan oldie, few marks, plays fine AND FINALLY, A STRANGE ONE TONY CLARKE – LANDSLIDE – CHESS EX ? I was going to list one of these today so I played it to see how it sounded and to my surprise it was in stereo. Now obviously I remember the UK reissue being in stereo but I don't ever remember hearing a US stereo copy, unless I just didn't pick up on it. So can anyone else check their copies and see if theirs is in stereo or if anyone has any info as why Chess would have issued a stereo 45 back then I'd be interested…and how rare is it? Ta. THANKS FOR READING – HOPE YOU FIND SOMETHING OF INTEREST I TAKE CREDIT CARDS, PAYPAL (THERE’S A CHARGE FOR THIS OVER £50 SORRY), CHEQUE, CASH, AND BANK TRANSFER. POSTAGE: ANYTHING UP TO 3 RECORDS 1.80 RECORDED DELIVERY. AFTER THAT, 20p EXTRA. SPECIAL DELIVERY IS 5.50 AND IS RECOMMENDED FOR ANYTHING OVER 50.00 – YOU ARE ONLY INSURED FOR 38.00 WITH RECORDED SO IT’S ESSENTIAL THAT YOU TAKE THE SPECIAL DELIVERY OPTION IF YOU BUY AN EXPENSIVE RECORD. OVERSEAS, SAME PRICE FOR STANDARD POSTAGE AND 6.00 FOR SPECIAL DELIVERY.

I had an Aussie version of this, I'm sure I posted it up, it's pretty good but alas I forgot the details!

So presumably S= stereo and M = mono?

You don't think it could be a previously undocumented boot do you? It's 100% definitely stereo.

Cheers Roger...run off details on this one are: CK 1979 A 14784 then what looks like SW if looking from the label outwards, the W joins the S to make it look like it's saying STU!

Thanks Jerry. Anyone else got one they can play?

TONY CLARKE - LANDSLIDE - CHESS 1979 ORIGINAL. I was going to list one of these today so I played it to see how it sounded and to my surprise it was in stereo. Now obviously I remember the UK reissue being in stereo but I don't ever remember hearing a US stereo copy, unless I just didn't pick up on it. So can anyone else check their copies and see if theirs is in stereo or if anyone has any info as why Chess would have issued a stereo 45 back then I'd be interested. Ta.

It was a huge record in late 77 - Russ, Richard and Keith M all played it. It's a great version! And funnily enough, I have the original 1966 acetate of this for sale on my list today

I bought a copy of this off Mick Smith yesterday because I couldn't remember ever having one before, and he also said he'd probably only ever had a couple...aren't most copies I'm Gonna Miss You on both sides? I dunno, anyway the point is, I was shocked to see it only rated £30 in the latest price guide, thought it must be worth £50. What do the panel think?

Rob, I'd take them but can't do it completely blind

I wasn't making a case for morals, I was stating a fact that the person who presses them makes more than the person who sells them, I didn't say it was a good thing, bad thing, or indifferent thing, you just read into it whatever you wanted and started mouthing off, I had nothing better to say than YAWN because you're like a stuck record, heard it a thousand times before. Oh, and p.s. you could find out who did these bootlegs in about 20 minutes if you really wanted to

What you starting on me for, I'm not making them or selling them, go find out who is and bend their ears instead, and you De-to. Or ring Mick Smith up and tell him he's a bootleg selling tw*t and see what sort of response you get.

Yawn

I heard Razzy "I hate hate" today for the first time in countless years and while it was on I had a brainwave, I thought how much better this would be if it had the guitar riff from "Tighten Up" by Archie bell & The Drells all over it...I'd do it if I knew how but if anyone is good at these sort of things, why not have a go? Please?

Er...actually there's a big difference, manufacturer makes 5 times more than the seller. If you want to ask Mick about his policies you're welcome but at every record fair he has a hundred or so pressings and reissues as do most people.

I'm in a really bad mood today mate, sorry. Meanwhile...listen, let me put a scenario to you, let's say Butch decides that the next record he is going to revive will be Cut Your Motor Off by Black Nasty. All of a sudden, will it become a new top sound for everyone and jump up to a hundred quid overnight just because Butch played it? This is the problem, The Flairs, The Dealers, these are just not rare records, they may be good but they are not worth anything. So after 3 spins, Cut Your Motor Off is now worth £100 and all the divs and sheep are after a copy. Anyone with any knowledge knows it's worth no more than 10 or 15 quid. And thats why 'we' can't accept The Dealers will be anything but an around-in-quantity box filler.

Didn't you know Dave, it's suddenly become super rare and all the top dj's have got to have copy or people will laugh at them even more than they do for paying more than twenty quid.

It's you who's losing it mate. OK, have you ever heard of Mick Smith, long standing record dealer and dj. I asked him this morning if he could sell me a copy of The dealers and he says what do you want that crap for, so I said was just asking, he said ok whats that, 15 quid? I said yeah, it should be. I repeat, anyone paying more than £30 for it needs to sort their life out.

I nearly got beat up for wearing one when I was 15, before I'd actually been to Wigan, so yes, the police should come down heavily on them and slap them all in jail in my opinion.

It is if you're clueless (not you - the bidders)- topic about this £5 soul pack record elsewhere

So it was ok for that guy who bought some medals and joined a military parade last year to do what he did, hadn't actually been to the place where he was supposed to have earned the medals, he just liked them as memorabilia. He got fined.

You're right, Johnny Howard was always pretty scarce but it was under £100.