Pete S

Not sure which is which, but it's stereo / mono as you say, but others are stereo / stereo and have two red and white labels

Have you forgotten the time before the internet and price guide? Knowledge was all you had to go on, so you tried to gain as much of it as possible. Now alll anyone has to do is switch on a computer.

I have, first copy I ever got was like that, 100% original (even remember who I got it from, Paul Forrester - Fozza), have had about 10 copies on demo and I think maybe 3 of them were red & white one side, blue on the other.

That's correct Manus, the dance Matt is describing was originally called 'shuffling', no idea when it started to be referred to as 'stomping' but it was definitely after I packed in going to Wigan (78). A stomper is something like Adams Apples.

It can only be done by the moderators. In the case of this topic, I presume it will be pinned until the next label of the week starts up, then this will be unpinned.

It's a 1980's press of 66-67 material - only a tenner I'm afraid

sold a WD and a stock last year, think for 50 and 30, but struggled...

Yes if I saw the word ORIGINAL I might have had a bid as well (if I actually knew the record) - he's out of order

Where's Kev J, by now he'd have usually posted up loads of Columbia unknowns and lesser knowns

PETE SMITH 4 BLAKELEY HEATH DRIVE WOMBOURNE WOLVERHAMPTON WV5 0HW 01902 326306 Pete.smith@freeuk.com HI FOLKS, AS FAR AS I KNOW, ALL OF THE RECORDS BELOW HAVENT APPEARED ON A PROPER LIST YET, A FEW OF THEM WERE ON THE PODCAST I DID YESTERDAY BUT I HADNT ACTUALLY LISTED THEM, SO HERE THEY ARE ALONG WITH A FEW MORE NEW ARRIVALS. COULD I ALSO POINT YOU IN THE DIRECTION OF THE WEBSITE WHERE I ADDED 40 OR SO NEW TITLES YESTERDAY, ALL WITH LABEL SCANS AND SOUND https://www.rare-soul.com/wordpress/?category=1 (GIVE THE PAGE A FEW SECONDS TO FULLY LOAD FOR THE SOUND CLIPS) CHEERS PETE BOBBY PARIS NIGHT OWL CAMEO DEMO M- 100 SOLD One or two storage marks but is more or less mint, all time classic CHAREN COTTON A LITTLE BIT OF LOVE PERCEPTION EX 50 Crossover dancer, tough stock copy CHUBBY CHECKER HEY YOU LITTLE BOOGALOO PARKWAY DEMO EX 30 SOLD Underrated stormer nice demo THE WINDJAMMERS ALL THAT SHINES IS NOT GOLD KENT DEMO EX 50 Usually bought for the other side, the uptempo funky dancer Poor Sad Child but it has a great group dancer on the flip CLYDIE KING IF YOU WERE A MAN IMPERIAL DEMO M- 75 Stunning midtempo, massive production LYDIA PENSE ILL FORGIVE YOU THEN FORGET YOU INVADER DEMO EX- 50 One or two pops and clicks, nothing serious, but half price LITTLE EVA STAND BY ME UK STATESIDE M- 20 Fabulous version outstanding uptempo dancer JERRY WILLIAMS RUN RUN ROADRUNNER MUSICOR VG++ 20 Classic ender ANTHONY RAYE GIVE ME ONE MORE CHANCE IMPACT DEMO M- 40 Late Wigan Detroit belter ELLA MAE BECTON WHY AM I TREATED SO BAD JOHNSON SISTERS VG+ 25 Rare, funky gospel dancer, uses the riff from Tramp I think it is JOE GRAVES DEBBIE PARKWAY EX 20 Excellent underplayed oldie THE YOUNG FOLK LONELY GIRL MARVLUS M 20 The best cheapie of the lot total brilliance RAY SCOTT THE REAL THING DECCA DEMO M 40 SOLD Frantic uptempo dancer THE FRENCH FRIES DANSE A LA MUSIQUE EPIC DEMO EX+ 40 SOLD Classic Cleethorpes / Wigan stomper, genius THE HONEY BEES WHY DO YOU WANT TO HURT THE ONE ARCTIC EX- 50 Cracking Philly dancer, some label wear hence price THE MASONIC TRAVELLERS TAKE THE LORD WITH YOU JEWEL DEMO EX 50 Really good uptempo gospel dancer, rare one BIG AMOS MOVE WITH YOU BABY HI M- 40 SOLD Pounding R & B dancer SOULFUL SALEM TRAVELLERS HAPPY RHAPSODY M- 50 SOLD I bet many of you were shocked to hear this on the podcast as its a modern soul track basically, its from 1988, but what a vocal and what a superbly soulful track this is. Dont know of another copy. Beautiful. THE BEATSTALKERS BASE LINE UK DECCA EX+ 40 No centre but a very hard to find Decca stock copy, big Mod instrumental, great stuff THE ROYALETTES ITS A BIG MISTAKE UK MGM DEMO EX 20 Beautiful demo not really Northern but all of The Royalettes records are quality THANKS FOR READING, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BUY ANYTHING I TAKE CARDS, CHEQUES, BANK TRANSFER, PAYPAL...(paypal user name pete.smith@freeuk.com) POSTAGE UP TO 3 RECORDS IS £2.00 RECORDED OVERSEAS ILL QUOTE YOU CHEERS PETE

If it hasn't got thopse small rough patches on the label then it sounds real to me...

Save yourself 5 grand and buy "Respect" by Otis Redding, same record...

For mint copies of all of those, you're looking at 10 to 20 quid each, the last Grapevine LP used to sell for 25 but all of them are hard to sell nowadays.

NORTHERN SOUL SALES PODCAST - hear anything you like, drop me a line pete.smith@freeuk.com If not, hope you enjoy some of this lot https://podcast9122525417.podomatic.com/entry/2011-04-11T04_01_37-07_00 CHUBBY CHECKER - HEY YOU LITTLE BOOGALOO - PARKWAY DEMO 30 THE WINDJAMMERS - ALL THAT SHINES IS NOT GOLD - KENT DEMO 50 CLYDIE KING - IF YOU WERE A MAN - IMPERIAL DEMO 75 LYDIA PENSE - I'LL FORGIVE YOU THEN FORGET YOU - INVADER DEMO 50 LITTLE EVA - STAND BY ME - UK STATESIDE 20 ELLA MAE BECTON - WHY AM I TREATED SO BAD - JOHNSON SISTERS 25 THE FANTASIONS - UNNECESSARY TEARS - SATELLITE 25 PATTI DREW - STOP AND LISTEN - CAPITOL DEMO 40 JOE GRAVES - DEBBIE - PARKWAY 20 THE YOUNG FOLK - LONELY GIRL - MARVLUS 20 RAY SCOTT - THE REAL THING - DECCA DEMO 40 RONNIE McNEIR - ISN'T SHE A PRETTY GIRL - DETO (REISSUE) 15 THE NOTATIONS - NEED YOUR LOVE - UK CHAPTER ONE DEMO 25 LITTLE OSCAR - THE MESSAGE - SUPREME BLUES 30 THE FRENCH FRIES - DANSE A LA MUSIQUE - EPIC DEMO 40 HONEY TOWNSEND - THE WORLD AGAIN - MALA DEMO 40 THE HONEY BEES - WHY DO YOU WANT TO HURT THE ONE - ARCTIC 50 THE GEES - IT'S ALL OVER - PORT DEMO 40 MARTHA JEAN LOVE - HOW TO SUCCEED IN LOVE - ABC 40 THE MASONIC TRAVELLERS - TAKE THE LORD WITH YOU - JEWEL DEMO 50 RED WEST COMBO - MY BABE - SANTO 30 SOUTHWIND SYMPHONY - COMIN HOME - GLOLITE 20 THE BOBBETTES - HAPPY GO LUCKY ME - RFCA DEMO 60 BOBBY PARIS - NIGHT OWL - CAMEO DEMO 100 BIG AMOS - MOVE WITH YOU BABY - HI 40 SOULFUL SALEM TRAVELLERS - HAPPY - RHAPSODY 50

NORTHERN SOUL SALES sorry this is very rushed, you can hear exactly how the items sound on the podcast or just ask me PODCAST - hear anything you like, drop me a line pete.smith@freeuk.com If not, hope you enjoy some of this lot https://podcast9122525417.podomatic.com/entry/2011-04-11T04_01_37-07_00 CHUBBY CHECKER - HEY YOU LITTLE BOOGALOO - PARKWAY DEMO 30 THE WINDJAMMERS - ALL THAT SHINES IS NOT GOLD - KENT DEMO 50 CLYDIE KING - IF YOU WERE A MAN - IMPERIAL DEMO 75 LYDIA PENSE - I'LL FORGIVE YOU THEN FORGET YOU - INVADER DEMO 50 LITTLE EVA - STAND BY ME - UK STATESIDE 20 ELLA MAE BECTON - WHY AM I TREATED SO BAD - JOHNSON SISTERS 25 THE FANTASIONS - UNNECESSARY TEARS - SATELLITE 25 PATTI DREW - STOP AND LISTEN - CAPITOL DEMO 40 JOE GRAVES - DEBBIE - PARKWAY 20 THE YOUNG FOLK - LONELY GIRL - MARVLUS 20 RAY SCOTT - THE REAL THING - DECCA DEMO 40 RONNIE McNEIR - ISN'T SHE A PRETTY GIRL - DETO (REISSUE) 15 THE NOTATIONS - NEED YOUR LOVE - UK CHAPTER ONE DEMO 25 LITTLE OSCAR - THE MESSAGE - SUPREME BLUES 30 THE FRENCH FRIES - DANSE A LA MUSIQUE - EPIC DEMO 40 HONEY TOWNSEND - THE WORLD AGAIN - MALA DEMO 40 THE HONEY BEES - WHY DO YOU WANT TO HURT THE ONE - ARCTIC 50 THE GEES - IT'S ALL OVER - PORT DEMO 40 MARTHA JEAN LOVE - HOW TO SUCCEED IN LOVE - ABC 40 THE MASONIC TRAVELLERS - TAKE THE LORD WITH YOU - JEWEL DEMO 50 RED WEST COMBO - MY BABE - SANTO 30 SOUTHWIND SYMPHONY - COMIN HOME - GLOLITE 20 THE BOBBETTES - HAPPY GO LUCKY ME - RFCA DEMO 60 BOBBY PARIS - NIGHT OWL - CAMEO DEMO 100 BIG AMOS - MOVE WITH YOU BABY - HI 40 SOULFUL SALEM TRAVELLERS - HAPPY - RHAPSODY 50

Yes, they were quite expensive. The buyer said he was extremely fussy and frequently returned records. Wish he'd mentioned that before hand

No problem. Did't really know where it fitted in the first place.

Well I got the records back and they were mine. Still no idea why they were returned though. The "Clint Eastwood" Pama lp is actually better than I listed it, it's totally mint. Ah well, live and learn.

No like I say - I am not bothered about refunding the money as I could have sold them all a few times over - but FOUR records being wrongly graded, two of which I actually purchased as mint minus...somethings not quite right

Briefly, sold 4 lp's to the same person. One was solid mint, one was mint minus, the other two were vg++. He has emailed me saying he his unhappy at the conditions of ALL of them and wants to return them. Now I am not bothered if he wants to return them, that's up to him, and am happy to refund him, but I think something fishy is going on, the main two records really were superb, the best I've ever seen, and he could not possibly get better copies. Seriously. My fear is that he will have replaced my good copies with his bad copies, and of course as soon as I sign for the package, he can get his money back off paypal. Even worse scenario, I could sign for them, then open it up, and maybe not even those records are enclosed. Is there any way to protect yourself in this situation? If I open them with the postman as a witness maybe?

Quote from John Manship, counterfeit promo with scratched matrix A-23116 SP, counterfeit stock copy pressed from the same plates. And then there's a picture of it, number 375 in his bootleg guide

It's not my 'logic', it's knowledge and experience.

Oh alright Ken, the Pointer Sisters isn't a boot then, because you've got some the same colour. Superb logic.

Sorry but your demo is a 100% definite bootleg, you'll have to trust me on that but it is, I got caught myself a few years ago. RBMans copy is what it should look like.