Pete S

I don't know it about her, I've never even heard of her!

They tend to realise when they go to pay it and see they are being charged, then they email me to tell me this, and I say to make it so that I pay the charge

Yeah I heard about that, it's on one of the anti-paypal sites, and there are a lot of them!

I think you may get charged for that as well, I'm under the impression that you can only send a gift if you have it as funds in your paypal account.

Yes you would get charged for that Andy

People used to put, even on ebay, paypal accepted 4% extra. Ebay used to let most of these go through.

Also I think this works both ways. Putting my buyers head on now, not sellers, I buy a lot of records off ebay, I mean 10 or more every week, and I don't really mind having to pay a fee to pay by paypal if necessary because when you think of the rigmarole (?) that you used to have to go through to pay someone in the States, it's worth losing a few dollars. I used to have to get international money orders drawn up, then post them, or send cash in an envelope or do a dodgy western union transfer before paypal came along. Even in the UK, used to have to send a cheque which meant a trip to the post office and a seven day wait for it to clear.

No if you have funds in there it costs nothing, if you don't then there is a charge. I wouldn't want anyone paying me via paypal to have to pay that charge, and I would pay it instead.

I'm not sure how this works then because every week for the last 2 years I've been sending my rent as a gift payment, that's over 100 payments! I also sent £18 grand to a customer who's records I was selling for them via paypal gift last year.

Sorry Kev, don't agree. I keep them as cheap as possible and undercut practically everyone else. I can't do this if I have loads of fees to pay. People who buy off me and pay via paypal gift know this and are perfectly happy to do so, it costs them nothing and they know they will get records at a good price, well packed and usually next day delivery. n.b. if they didn't want to do so I would obviously still sell them the record

Always associate these with The Locarno for some reason, remember buying the Sensitive Mind one there

If you only send the gift payment to people you know and trust you should be alright. If you are unsure, just don't do it.

Back a bit - these came out in early 79

What makes you say that Mick?

Probably thought I'd go in to the p.o. on saturday especially...not a chance!

I've had someone complain today because he bougt a record off me on thursday - thursday night that is, after the post offices shut - I couldn't do post friday, so was going to post today and he would have got it tomorrow...except he's complaining about it being late.

Bit surprised at that, seen this go for much more and have sold it for £100 a few times myself (sold the greenish label one on demo for £150)

I've spoken to Craig many of times on the phone. He's been buying off me for years. I think he is either at or works at a University.

What, a "drone" is a disgraceful insult?

On the label of a record you own I mean...look who's name is stamped on this demo of mine...why couldn't it have been Emperor Rosko https://en.wikipedia....i/Chris_Denning

3pm to 6pm is a strange time, most people will be at work

Well at least I didn't have to say it and you say the same thing to me Nev

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This has been happening since the dawn of time though, records are discovered, start to go big, then get bootlegged or reissued before their time, I can think of a great example, Peg Leg Moffett "The Shocker" played at Wigan one week by Russ covered as Wilson Pickett, exactly 2 weeks later it was in the shops as an import and was never played again. There's hundreds of examples of great records being killed off by reissues. One the one hand it was good because we could get the records to play at home, on the other hand we knew it would never be played at Wigan (or other current nighter) again and that was pretty sad.

I sold the Dean Courtney - Love you just can't walk away - MGM stock copy - for £1000. On Verve, I suppose the rarest soul 45 is the High Keys "Living a lie" but a stock copy of Youngblood Smith would be just as expensive if not more.