Pete S

You best post ever. Says absolutely everything I've not been able to.

I run a Northern Soul list though not a general soul list. And I repeat, in almost every instance, I am selling it for one side of the record. Thats the side people want. People above like Phil D understand and as he says, he wouldn't care if the b side didn't play. I can assure you that most of my customers think like this too. I realise that probably puts them a step down on the evolutional scale compared to some of the geniuses and soul connoisseurs on Soul Source. But we're happy.

For the first 18 months I went there, Wigan was the greatest place on earth, it was my life really, the best venue ever, the best music ever, the best people ever. If you weren't there, you don't know, so give it a rest with all this pop stuff business. The music was just phenomenal.

No, where are you coming from, taking me to task about things that have never happened and don't affect you in the slightest, my customers matter, and they keep coming back again and again and again...20 odd years and counting...which makes me think I probably know what I'm talking about.

I have said twice on this thread that the A side is graded and the B side will be graded separately if it's in a different condition to the A side. Which part can't you understand?

It's pretty obvious you'd grade both sides, what a daft question.

Yes I think I agree Rod, I thought you were saying that if the A is mint but the B is vg, you have to grade it down - I was just saying keep the M grade but mention the B side condition

Floyd this is Gods honest truth, I wasn't sure if you were the same Floyd!

What are you on about, I wasn't referring to you...

99% of records, no, 100% of records I sell are for the A side of a popular Northern Soul record, not for the B side. Half the people wouldn't care if it didn't even have a b side. I have sold thousands and thousands of records over the last 20 years and only one person has ever returned a record because of a problem with the B side. If the condition isn't the same as the A sie I will mention it, but I'm not bringing down the grading of the record from M- to VG because the B side might have a problem. It's still M- because I'm selling the popular, play side. It will be M- (B side only VG) in the description.

Yeah but there's fussy - and then there's fussy

I've got a red issue, EX+, tiny sticker mark on label, £30.

You are right, I can't stand it.

There are lots of rare green Columbia 45's but they wouldn't really be of much interest to the soul forum really. Things like Johnny Wells - Lonely Moon. Popcorn stuff.

Thats on Parlophone though..

01902 326306 pete.smith@freeuk.com SOME BARGAIN ORIGINALS MISCELLANEOUS PRICES VERNON HARRELL - IF THIS AIN'T LOVE (AIN'T NO COWS IN TEXAS) - SCORE EX 30 A prety scarce and rather good R&B pounder TAJ MAHAL - A LOT OF LOVE - COLUMBIA (CANADA) M- 30 Tremendous dancer. THE SHIRTAILS - I WANT YOU TO STAY WITH ME - DATE EX 25 Love this old Wigan spin - one day they'll be saying it's a classic BOBBY LESTER - HANG UP YOUR HANG UPS - COLUMBIA DEMO M 25 SOLD Former member of doo-wop group The Moonglows - old Mecca stomper BOBBY MANDOLPH - GOT TO GET YOU BACK - VAULT DEMO EX 40 SOLD Torch-tastic tune THE JERMS - I'M A TEARDROP - HONOR BRIGADE M- 25 THE LOST SOULS - I'M YOUR LOVE MAN - GLASCO EX 30 Great record, nice vinyl but bad label tear to left of label, inch by inch and a half THE MAGIFICENT MEN - I'VE GOT NEWS - CAPITOL EX 30 Raised part of the label is a little grubby but vinyl is fine, maybe EX- visually but plays EX THE FALCONS - HAS IT HAPPENED TO YOU YET - LU PINE VG 30 SOLD This record has never seen a sleeve in it's life and looks dubious but plays with barely any noise at all! £20 EACH LITTLE OSCAR - THE MESSAGE - SUPREME BLUES EX+ 20 uptempo funky dancer HOT BUSH - TELL ME THAT YOU WILL - APA DEMO M 20 The sort of music that if someone played it at an allnighter you'd want to kill yourself, glad I stopped going when I did LOL WAYNE COCHRAN - I'M IN TROUBLE - MERCURY M 20 Much more like it, old Wigan thumper from Eddie Cochran's Dad. Not really. DANNY WHITE - CRACKED UP OVER YOU - DECCA M- 20 Anyone ever played the B side of this, Taking Inventory? Excellent stuff. Cover it up. MAMIE GALORE - IT AIN'T NECESSARY - ST. LAWRENCE M- 20 A Catacombs anthem. FRED HUGHES - BABY BOY - BRUNSWICK EX 20 Another classic from 73-74 DONALD HEIGHT - 365 DAYS - SHOUT EX- 20 Few marks but plays EX. Really thick vinyl copy not a poxy styrene thing. THE CITATIONS - (TO WIN THE RACE) KEEP THE FAITH - BALLAD M- 20 SOLD Used to be big money until someone found the dead stock - still sounds great - late Stafford era LARRY BARNES - RAGS IS RAGS - MERCURY EX 20 Good blue eyed pounder JIMMY HUGHES - NEIGHBOUR, NEIGHBOUR - FAME M 20 Classic R&B dancer TROY DODDS - TRYING TO FIND MY BABY / EARTHQUAKE - BAYTOWN DEMO EX- 20 Rare white demo, obviously one of the first to be found as it has little sellotape remnants on the run off where a cover up label was applied. This is the rare Swan distributed press. PHIL COULTER & HIS ORCHESTRA - A GOOD THING GOING - COLUMBIA EX 20 Nice instrumental though remember when this was first played and everyone went 'what the...??' Only usually see this on a demo, this one's a red issue, very slight wear plays immaculately BILL PINKNEY - DON'T CALL ME - FONTANA EX 20 James brown production, nice dancer, bargain £15 EACH GARNET MIMMS - PROVE IT TO ME - UNITED ARTISTS EX+ 15 SOLD Class oldie THE FANTASTIC JOHNNY C - DON'T DEPEND ON ME - PHIL LA OF SOUL EX 15 Nice original vinyl copy THE FOUR JAYS - LOVE MY LOVE - CONGRESS EX+ 15 Another forgotten Wigan oldie EDWIN STARR - MY WEAKNESS IS YOU - GORDY EX- 15 Classic, plays EX DEE DEE WARWICK - MONDAY, MONDAY - MERCURY DEMO M- 15 SOLD Lovely white demo MEL TORME - COMIN' HOME BABY - UK LONDON EX 15 SOLD Nice copy, bargain price SONNY OCEANS - PITY ME - COLUMBIA DEMO EX+ 15 A Wigan "one spin wonder", I still think it's great though THE NITE TRAIN - TO THE BITTER END - ROULETTE DEMO VG 15 Looks rough, plays fine with a small amount of crackle in parts. Probably been sleeveless all it's life THE VOLUMES - YOU GOT IT BABY - INFERNO DEMO VG++ 15 SOLD Top side is fine, few marks but no problems, B side has some pops GAYLORD & HOLIDAY - LOVE WHERE HAVE YOU GONE - PALMER M- 15 Marmite dancer BOBBY BLAND - CALL ON ME - DUKE EX 15 One of the 'foundation' dancers from the earliest days of rare soul, was once so rare that it was played off an LP as no 45's had been imported yet BOBBY McCLURE - YOU GOT ME BABY / PEAK OF LOVE - CHECKER EX+ 15 Excellent double sider THE DRIFTERS - BABY WHAT I MEAN - ATLANTIC DEMO EX+ 15 SOLD Nice oldie MOSES & JOSHUA DILLARD - GET OUT OF MY HEART - MALA VG++ 15 SOLD Plays EX. This is of course a vocal to the tune of "Soul Symphony" THE VONTASTICS - YOU CAN WORK IT OUT - ST. LAWRENCE DEMO M- 15 One sided demo - great uptempo dancer NEXT LOT £10 EACH BRENDA HOLLOWAY - STARTING THE HURT ALL OVER AGAIN / JUST LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE EX 10 DON COVAY - IT'S BETTER TO HAVE AND DON'T NEED - MERCURY M- 10 THE BUCKINGHAMS - DON'T YOU CARE - COLUMBIA M- 10 JERRY BUTLER - MOODY WOMAN - MERCURY EX- 10 THE MOMENTS - NINE TIMES - STANG M 10 SOLD Brilliant 70's. Yes, I did say brilliant 70's. LOL ROSCO ROBINSON - THAT'S ENOUGH - WAND VG++ 10 BUNNY SIGLER - SUNNY SUNDAY - PARKWAY EX 10 EARL VAN DYKE & THE MOTOWN BRASS - 6 BY 6 - GORDY EX 10 BOBBY BLAND - YUM YUM TREE - DUKE EX- 10 Plays EX, light ring wear JOE FRAZIER - FIRST ROUND KNOCKOUT - MOTOWN DEMO M- 10 SPYDER TURNER - I CAN'T MAKE IT ANYMORE - MGM EX 10 Surprised that some people are saying that Ritchie Havens plodding folk version of this is better than Spyder's. Those people should be arrested. JACKIE LEE - THE SHOTGUN AND THE DUCK / TEMPTATION WALK - MIRWOOD EX 10 We take records like this for granted now but what a double sider, 'Shotgun' almost melts the paper off the walls and 'Temptation' really is the epitomy of West Coast Northern Soul. THE PLATTERS - DEVRI - MUSICOR EX+ 10 Totally forgotten Torch oldie, lovely dancer, chime bars a plenty THE DELLS - MAKE SURE - CADET EX- 10 Classic oldie, some light marks not affecting play. Ever tried the B side, "Does Anybody Know I'm Here", a very poignant Vietnam song? Blimey. Tugs at the heartstrings alright. JIMMY CLIFF - WATERFALL - A & M M- 10 THE TRAITS - HARLEM SHUFFLE - SCEPTER M 10 Stompalong blue eyed version. Buy it for the worst version of West Side Story's "Somewhere" on the B side, sounds like Vic Reeves' club singer on vocals. SHORT PEOPLE - WHY'D YOU PUT IT TO ME BABY - GUSTO EX 10 THE VELVELETTES - THESE THINGS WILL KEEP ME LOVING YOU - SOUL EX 10 Some people prefer the Blue Sharks Top of the Pops LP style version to this! BLACK NASTY - CUT YOUR MOTOR OFF - BIG HIT EX 10 LESLEY MILLER - YOU GOT A WAY OF BRINGING OUT MY TEARS - RCA DEMO M- 10 Clumsy title, nice midtempo girlie sound CLARENCE MURRAY - DON'T TALK LIKE THAT - SSS INTERNATIONAL M- 10 E.G. TAYLOR & THE SOUNDS OF SOUL - YOU MADE ME MAD - VAL M- 10 HOWARD TATE - BABY I LOVE YOU - VERVE EX 10 SOLD A bit of real class THE INCREDIBLES - FIND ANOTHER LOVE - AUDIO ARTS EX 10 Green label DELORES HALL - GOOD LOVIN' MAN - KEYMEN M- 10 THE PLATTERS - DON'T HEAR, SPEAK, SEE NO EVIL - MUSICOR M- 10 One of my favourite double siders - I Love You 1000 Times on flip LITTLE JERRY WILLIAMS - I'M THE LOVER MAN - SOUTHERN SOUND M- 10 ROGER K - GIVE ME THE LOVE (I'M NEEDING) - BIRTH EX+ 10 BOBBY BLOOM - WE'RE ALL GOIN' HOME - MGM m 10 Nice 70's dancer THE VANGUARDS - I CAN'T USE YOU GIRL - WHIZ EX- 10 How fast is this? MISCELLANEOUS PRICES THE JAGGED EDGE - BABY YOU DON'T KNOW - RCA DEMO EX 8 Some wol tippexed out SOUL BROTHERS SIX - YOU BETTER CHECK YOURSELF - ATLANTIC VG 5 BILLY HARNER - WHAT ABOUT THE MUSICC - UK KAMA SUTRA M- 8 LITTLE CHARLES & THE SIDEWINDERS - GOT MY OWN THING GOING - DRUM EX 5 CHUCK JACKSON - CHAINS OF LOVE / GOOD THINGS / HAND IT OVER / ANY DAY - INFERNO M 5 JR. WALKER - COME SEE ABOUT ME - SOUL EX 5 EDWIN STARR - SOS STOP HER ON SIGHT - UK POLYDOR EX+ 5 THE O'KAYSIONS - GIRL WATCHER - ABC EX+ 5 ROBB FORTUNE - CRAZY FEELIN' - NOW EX 5 THE FEATHERS - TRYIN' TO GET TO YOU - TEAM EX 5 What the hell is this? JAY & CATHYS CLOWNS - THE BOTTLE - S & K M 8 SOLD Nice version - totally forgotten LOU RAWLS - DEAD END STREET (MONOLOGUE) / DEAD END STREET - CAPITOL VG- 3 Sadly this looks as rough as a bear's arse. Crackles throughout. AARON NEVILLE - A HARD NUT TO CRACK - PARLO DEMO M- 8 Good New Orleans stomper - rare on demo JOE L - I'M NOT GONNA BE WORRIED - CLISSAC VG- 5 Very scruffy copy but plays really well ELLA WASHINGTON - TRYING TO MAKE YOU LOVE ME - SOUND STAGE 7 EX 8 Nice dancer DUKE BAXTER - I AIN'T NO SCHOOLBOY - VMC M- 5 JOE HINTON - LOVE THE WAY YOU LOVE - BACKBEAT EX 5 DIANE TREVOUR - HAVIN' A PARTY (DOWN ON THE FARM) - CU RAE M- ? I have no idea what on earth this is, blue eyed stomper I think THE CORDELLS - YOU DO A THING TO MY MIND - STEEL TOWN SOUND INC M 8 LORD THUNDER - THUNDER - DE LUXE M- 6 Repress * MAINLY CHEAPIES AND GOOD QUALITY BARGAINS ON THIS ONE FOLKS BUT DO I HAVE SOMETHING UP MY SLEEVE FOR THE NEXT FEW LISTS - I'LL SEND OUT AN ADVANCE WARNING AS TO WHEN THE NEXT ONE IS OUT - I DON'T THINK YOU'LL WANT TO MISS IT! * SORRY NO TRADES/SWAPS ON THIS LOT. ALSO NO RESERVATIONS AS THE ONE RECORD I HELD LAST WEEK WASN'T PAID FOR. WHEN WILL I EVER LEARN.. I TAKE CARDS, PAYPAL, BANK TRANSFER, CHEQUE etc PAYPAL NAME IS pete.smith@freeuk.com pete.smith@freeuk.com> PLEASE NOTE I DO NOT RESERVE RECORDS, THEY ARE SOLD ON A FIRST COME, FIRST PAY BASIS POSTAGE RATES HAVE CHANGED SLIGHTLY, 1ST CLASS RECORDED IS NOW £2.25 FOR ONE RECORD WITH NO EXTRA CHARGE FOR 2 ADDITIONAL ITEMS. I CAN SEND RECORDS UNDER £30 FOR £1.25 1ST CLASS IF YOU DON'T WANT RECORDED SPECIAL DELIVERY IS £6.35 OVERSEAS: EUROPE IS £3.20 AIRMAIL, £8.50 REGISTERED POST. ITEMS OVER £40 NEED TO GO BY REGISTERED POST. REST OF THE WORLD IS £4.20 AIRMAIL, £9.50 REGISTERED POST.

I have one here, Calla 127 demo. Thats the usually red/white label demo. So what are the blue/white label demos I think I've seen?

You will have to forgive me if I don't shudder with excitement at this news Voodoo (only pulling your leg)

I'm a bit surprised the second press is worth as much as the first though..

Merci.

Most copies actually have the backing track to Only Your Love Can Save Me with studio producers talking over it. In fact I chucked one of these away yesterday. Unsellable. Especially in the G+ nick this one was in. MM & Y must be five times harder but as to whether it's a mispress - doubt it, they probably just changed their minds or where told to pull it.

Price please for the first release anyone?

Having got one of these today, an 'original', it certainly does have a different, heavier feel to it than the other one and the colouring of the label and lettering is different too.

Some but not all have labels like that. I'd value it at 50% less than a correct one. But it's only worth £15 in the first place.