Pete S

Jock if I were 5 or 10 years younger I would probably see things totally different but I can't help the age I am and the period that my best years on the scene cover. So that's what I compare things to, obviously. I wouldn't go around telling people who went to the Cats or Torch that Wigan was better, because I was too young to go to those venues. You can only refer to what you actually know from experience.

Lets clean up the ghetto..

Well the 56960 number is accurate as far as the release date goes, and it looks right, but I think we've debated this particular version of the record before and someone had doubts

Sorry Benji, didn't know there was another version. OK change that to nappy Brown - Coal Miner then

I think the problem with R & B is that they went too far back to the point where it was actually black rock & roll. There were lots of great early 60's R & B tracks being played originally but in the search for more obscure tunes, they delved back even deeper - the nadir must surely be playing Tennesse Ernie Ford's "Sixteen Tons" from 1955 at a Northern Soul night.

I'd ask £10 tops for that

Neither do I. R & B is the roots of Northern Soul, not the ginger haired stepchild of it like Modern is.

I call them 70's Northern. I love this stuff. It's entirely different to what I know as 'modern' - it's evolving from the 60's sound but is still true to it. In fact, this is one of the most enjoyable podcasts I ever did. https://www.mixcloud.com/mayfairmenthol/lets-all-have-a-disco/ These records were all spun on the Northern Soul scene, mainly between 1975 and 77, and the interesting thing is that back then, I didn’t separate these from the 60’s tunes, it was all Northern Soul. Somewhere along the way, lines became drawn and suddenly we had Modern Soul and much later, Crossover, but these uptempo 70’s dancers will always have strong connections to some great days on the Northern Soul scene. I was never a Blackpool Mecca attendee but every one of these tracks was played at Wigan and most at Cleethorpes and probably places like The Ritz too. Anyway, great memories and to my surprise, one of the most enjoyable podcasts I’ve ever done!

Only if you print it off...

Is this going to be a pantomime 'yes it is' 'no it isn't' type conversation?

When you start a new topic or make a post, they should be on the toolbar above where you type the first line

Is it really that hard work to read 20 lines of print?

I don't know. Oh yes thats right, in your post above where you criticise people for not liking anything but their chosen field and said get back to soul music which incorporates a bit of everything and said that the playlist doesn't matter. A lot of us got into Northern to get away from funk and mainstream soul music and all the other crap that was around back then, and have no interest in embracing it now. Why would anyone want funk played at a Northern do? Why would anyone want reggae played at a Northern do? Why would anyone proud to have been into Northern Soul for 40 years want to 'ditch the label'? At home, enjoy any type of music you like, but at a "northern soul" do, just play northern soul, that's all I'd ask. (I apologise if I have completely misunderstood your post)

So there is no point in having a Northern Soul scene at all then apparently. It has to be a 'Bit of everything' scene.

Thought that was the best part...

A very enjoyable read.

I remember him doing the same a year earlier at Sammies (St Giles, Willenhall) allnighter, he played "Kill That Roach" by Miami and killed the floor, except he played it as a request for Helen and she danced to it all the way through, on her own, bless her.

You'd have loved this one night at Wigan, 1976, Pep comes on and starts off his spot in the usual way with something like Herbert Hunter and continues for 20 minutes playing the top sounds of the day, floor is rammed, and then he plays "Dazz" by Brick, an out and out funk record, and the floor empties, completely, not one person left on it. He cuts it off half way through with the words "Wigan not quite ready for that one yet then"

What about people who never had a break - I admit that after Wigan I was not an allnighter goer but I kept up with all of the sounds via places like The Old Vic, tapes and live tapes and eventually started going again but don't think I have a gap anywhere as far as sounds are concerned (that's only happened this last 5 years). I've always liked the same music and always will. I'll never like modern soul, ever. I don't even want to like it. I don't need to like it. It offers me nothing whatsoever. I might like to hear maybe two latin records in a row, that's it. I can take a bit more R&B but no more than half an hour. Traditional Northern, I can listen to that all night because that's why I'm there, at a Northern Soul allnighter. (I get as frustrated as anyone else when the same old records are churned out time after time though) So it's not like people aren't aware of other sounds and styles, they just don't want to embrace them like they do traditional NS.

I don't know if it's a sign of the times but I put out a ska and reggae list at the same time as this one and have sold twice as much off that than off this Northern one!

Oh Tezza. Praise the Lord. Possibly the best post ever on here explaining why some of us do not feel the need to be educated, being perfectly happy with our lot and not needing to be saved from anything.

PETE SMITH pete.smith@freeuk.com 01902 326306 SOME SKA, ROCKSTEADY & REGGAE 45's FROM MY OWN PERSONAL COLLECTION. ALL UK LABELS. PLEASE READ INFO AT END OF LIST IF YOU'D LIKE TO ORDER ANYTHING. ANY PROBLEMS WITH RECORDS, IF NOT AS DESCRIBED ETC, PLEASE RETURN FOR FULL REFUND, I DO NOT DO PARTIAL REFUNDS, EVER...I GRADE AS HONESTLY AS I POSSIBLY CAN. IT'S USUALLY QUICKER TO GET ME BY EMAILING OR RINGING ME RATHER THAN REPLYING VIA FACEBOOK Various labels WINSTON WRIGHT - MESHWIRE / THE BARONS - DARLING PLEASE RETURN - TROJAN 7775 EX+ 40 SOLD Incredible copy - mint vinyl, mint labels ALTON ELLIS & THE FLAMES - AIN'T THAT LOVIN' YOU / TOMMY McCOOK - COMET ROCK STEADY VG 25 Very rare orange Trojan original - crackly in parts though - buy it for it's rarity not the sound quality THE UNIQUES - OUT OF LOVE / WATCH THIS SOUND - TROJAN 619 VG+ 25 SOLD Has light crackle throughout, small writing on label THE UNTOUCHABLES - TIGHTEN UP / ROY SHIRLEY - GOOD AMBITION - TROJAN 613 VG++ 30 Few marks, light crackle at start but a strong player, very loud, decent copy. Very small wol ERROL DUNKLEY - MY SPECIAL PRAYER / NEVER HURT THE ONE YOU LOVE - UNITY 554 EX+ 15 Mint minus, possibly unplayed THE CORSAIRS - GOODNIGHT MY LOVE / LOVER GIRL - UNITY 558 EX+ 15 Mint minus, possibly unplayed DENNIS ALCAPONE - WAKE UP JAMAICA / VERSION - TREASURE ISLE 7074 EX+ 25 Beautiful copy. This is one of those strange black and white Treasure Isle labels Trojan used for a short period in 1973 (they used black and white versions of practically all of their labels for a couple of months) THE CONQUERERS - LONELY STREET / I FELL IN LOVE - TREASURE ISLE 7035 VG+ 20 SOLD Pops and crackles in parts THE EAGLES - YOUR ENEMIES CAN'T HURT YOU / VERSION - DUKE REID 2522 VG++ 25 One of the hardest UK Duke Reid 45's, credited as "Hurt" by Duke Reid's All Stars - actually by The Eagles. Nice tune too. DENNIS ALCAPONE & KEITH HUDSON - SHADES OF HUDSON / SPANISH AMIGO - BIG SHOT 565 VG++ 40 Little crackle, nothing major, this is a really tough one to find, "Amigo" has a little noise towards the end but no real problems with either side THE PIONEERS - GOODIES ARE THE GREATEST / SHAKE IT UP - BLUE CAT 100 VG+ 35 SOLD Both sides have some crackle, Shake It Up has far less than Goodies Are The Greatest. Marker pen initials on label both sides and no centre. PAT KELLY - NEVER GIVE UP / WORKMAN SONG - GAS 110 EX+ 30 Beautiful copy THE HEPTONES - A CHANGE IS GOING TO COME / NOBODY KNOWS - STUDIO ONE 2005 EX+ 150 Again, you will have to wait a long, long time before you see a better copy than this one, stunning vinyl and labels, plus two of the greatest tracks ever issued on Studio One. Kills me to sell this. AUGUSTUS PABLO - TOO LATE / DUB ORGANIZER - TROPICAL 025 EX 25 The brilliant melodica version of Alton Ellis - Too Late ISLAND LABEL: 142 ERIC MORRIS - PENNY REEL / DUKE REIDS GROUP - DARLING WHEN VG 10 No centre, lots of writing on label 154 JUSTIN HINDS & THE DOMINOES - CARRY GO BRING COME / DUKE REIDS GROUP - HILL AND GULLY VG++ 15 158 DESMOND DEKKAR - KING OF SKA / JESERENE VG+ 25 SOLD Has marks but plays really really well 163 OWEN & LEON - HOW MANY TIMES / MY LOVE FOR YOU VG++ 10 No centre 164 OWEN & LEON - THE FITS IS ON ME / THE SKATALITES - GOOD NEWS EX- 10 Writing on label. Nice copy. 192 DON DRUMMOND & DRUMBAGO - STAMPEDE / JUSTIN HINDS & THE DOMINOES - COME BAIL ME VG+ 15 Writing on label. Plays with some crackle, fades out as record progresses. 208 DON DRUMMOND - MAN IN THE STREET / RITA & BENNY - YOU ARE MY ONLY LOVE VG 20 Some crackle, bit of label wear. I paid £35 for this copy! 229 BABA BROOKS - GUNS FEVER / DOTTY & BONNY - DON'T DO IT VG+ 20 233 BABA BROOKS - INDEPENDENCE SKA / STRANGER & CLAUDETTE - SEVEN DAYS EX- 25 236 LYNN TAIT & BABA BROOKS - SKALARAMA / JUSTIN HINDS & THE DOMINOES - PEACE AND LOVE VG++ 20 241 BABA BROOKS - TEENAGE SKA / ALTON ELLIS - YOU ARE NOT TO BLAME VG++ 50 SOLD Two awesome sides 242 DON DRUMMOND - UNIVERSITY GOES SKA / DERRICK & NAOMI - PAIN IN MY HEART VG++ 25 254 THE WAILERS - WHAT'S NEW PUSSYCAT / WHERE WILL I FIND EX+ 75 SOLD A stunning copy in near mint condition, tiny name written on label otherwise pristine 260 THE SKATALITES - INDEPENDENT ANNIVERSARY SKA / THE WAILERS - JUMBEE JAMBOREE EX 80 SOLD Fabulous copy, pristine labels, lovely vinyl 3122 THE UNIQUES - MY CONVERSATION / SLIM SMITH - LOVE ONE ANOTHER EX+ 175 SOLD You will look forever for a copy as good as this. It had a tiny mark in the middle of the record which caused one tiny background pop, otherwise it looks and sounds like it has been unplayed for 44 years. * I WILL PUT PHOTOS OF THE LABELS UP ON MY WEBSITE SOMETIME TODAY, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A LOOK GO TO www.raresoul.co.uk I TAKE CARDS, PAYPAL, BANK TRANSFER, CHEQUE etc PAYPAL NAME IS pete.smith@freeuk.com PLEASE NOTE I DO NOT RESERVE RECORDS, THEY ARE SOLD ON A FIRST COME, FIRST PAY BASIS POSTAGE RATES HAVE CHANGED AGAIN, 1ST CLASS RECORDED IS NOW £2.40 FOR ONE RECORD WITH NO EXTRA CHARGE FOR 2 ADDITIONAL ITEMS. SPECIAL DELIVERY IS £7.00 OVERSEAS: EUROPE IS £3.50 AIRMAIL, £9.00 REGISTERED POST. ITEMS OVER £40 NEED TO GO BY REGISTERED POST. REST OF THE WORLD IS £4.50 AIRMAIL, £10.00 REGISTERED POST. ITEMS OVER £40 NEED TO GO BY REGISTERED POST.

PETE SMITH pete.smith@freeuk.com 01902 326306 MORE QUALITY ORIGINALS AT BARGAIN PRICES. I DON'T USE THE GRADE MINT BY THE WAY. EX IS WHAT YOU'D CALL NEAR MINT. THE TIFFANIES - IT'S GOT TO BE A GREAT SONG - KR EX 25 Brilliant oldie JAMES COIT - BLACK POWER - PHOOT EX 15 BOBBY BLAND - CALL ON ME - DUKE EX 10 JOHN RHYS & THE LIVELY SET - NOTHING BUT LOVE - IMPACT DEMO EX 20 SOLD Nice Detroit inst THE RAINBOWS - HELP ME IF YOU CAN - CAPITOL DEMO EX 15 Covered up as Detroit Shakers CAROL ANDERSON - IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN TO A DOG - MID TOWN EX 50 HELD NOT FOR MUCH LONGER THOUGH Books at 150! THE FABULETTES - THE BIGGER THEY ARE - MONUMENT DEMO EX 30 BILL PURSELL - HEARTBEAT - SPAR EX 100 A very rare original JEANETTE HARPER - PUT ME IN YOUR POCKET - 20TH CENTURY DEMO EX 125 SOLD Bargain price for this one PAL & THE PROPHETS - PEACE PIPE - JAMIE DEMO EX 20 Good instrumental dancer DALTON, JAMES & SUTTON - RUN BABY - NATIONAL GENERAL DEMO EX- 15 HELD Old Wigan spin circa 75 JACKIE DESHANNON - FIND ME LOVE - IMPERIAL EX- 10 SOLD THE PRETENDERS - I WANNA BE - CARNIVAL EX 15 Red label THE SHIRELLES - LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO MY HEART - BELL EX 15 Small mark not affecting play MAD DOG & THE PUPS - WHY DID YOU LEAVE ME GIRL - MAGIC CITY EX 20 Hard in this condition BARBARA ENGLISH - ALL THE GOOD TIMES ARE GONE - WARNER BROS DEMO EX 20 THE ATTRACTIONS - THAT GIRL IS MINE - BELL EX 15 SOLD DAWN - LOVE IS A MAGIC WORD - UNITED ARTISTS EX- 15 A little label wear. Scarce stock copy. Plays EX THE SAPPHIRES - GOTTA HAVE YOUR LOVE - ABC EX 25 Classic THE DRIFTERS - AT THE CLUB - ATLANTIC DEMO VG++ 10 Nice demo JAMES & BOBBY PURIFY - SHAKE A TAIL FEATHER - BELL EX 10 JACKIE LEE - WOULD YOU BELIEVE - MIRWOOD EX 10 JACKIE LEE - BRING IT HOME - KEYMEN EX 10 GENE CHANDLER & BARBARA ACKLIN - FROM THE TEACHER TO THE PREACHER - CANADIAN BRUNSWICK VG++ 10 Looks nice on this dark maroon label THE GEORGIA PROPHETS - I GOT THE FEVER - BSP EX+ 10 THE CHARMETTES - ONE MORE TIME - MARLIN DEMO VG++ 10 Nice early 60's girl group dancers ANN MARIE - GIFT OF LOVE - FAM LEE DEMO EX+ 10 Oddball Cleethorpes spin IKE & TINA TURNER - DUST MY BROOM - TRC EX 20 EX all the way through til near the end where the vinyl has a little bump that sounds THE COOPERETTES - GOODBYE SCHOOL - BRUNSWICK DEMO EX 15 JAN BRADLEY - BACK IN CIRCULATION - ADANTI VG++ 15 MARY SAENZ - WOULD SHE DO THAT FOR YOU - BIG BEN EX+ 40 Super copy FORK IN THE ROAD - CAN'T TURN AROUND NOW - GM EX 10 GLORIA JONES - HEARTBEAT - UPTOWN EX 15 THE BURNING EMOTIONS - THE NEW WORLD - BANG DEMO EX 10 THE FESTIVALS - MUSIC - SMASH EX+ 10 Great oldie CARTOON CANDY CARNIVAL - MICKEY MOUSE CONCERTO - METROMEDIA DEMO EX 10 SOLD Best thing I can say about this is that it looks superb on a white demo JAN DAVIS - RAUNCHY - DIRECT HIT EX 15 A real forgotten spin from 75/76 ? & THE MYSTERIANS - CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF YOU BABY - CAMEO EX 10 BOB & EARL - THE SISSY - CHENE EX 10 BOBBY McCLURE - YOU GOT ME BABY - CHECKER VG+ 10 MIKE POST COALITION - BUBBLE GUM BREAKTHROUGH - WARNER BROS DEMO EX 10 JOE TEX - SHOW ME - DIAL EX 10 THE GRAND PIANO COMPANY - ESPERANTO - AMPEX DEMO EX 10 BOBBY FOSTER - IF YOU REALLY NEED A FRIEND - SOUND PLUS EX 20 FLOWER SHOPPE - YOU'VE COME A LONG WAY BABY - SPRING DEMO EX 20 WALTER JACKSON - WHERE HAVE ALL THE FLOWERS GONE - OKEH DEMO VG+ 20 Few pops and clicks at the start, hence price EAST COAST CONNECTION - SUMMER IN THE PARKS - NEW DIRECTIONS EX 10 SOLD LUTHER INGRAM & THE G MEN - I SPY FOR THE FBI - SMASH EX 15 This is the second label design THE VOLCANOS - IT'S AGAINST THE LAWS OF LOVE - ARCTIC VG++ 25 Has name on label in marker pen, top right LUV - CRAZY CHANGES - PGH FUNK EX 20 SOUL PATROL - SAVE YOUR LOVE / NEED OF LOVE - HIGHLAND EX 40 I TAKE CARDS, PAYPAL, BANK TRANSFER, CHEQUE etc PAYPAL NAME IS pete.smith@freeuk.com PLEASE NOTE I DO NOT RESERVE RECORDS, THEY ARE SOLD ON A FIRST COME, FIRST PAY BASIS POSTAGE RATES HAVE CHANGED AGAIN, 1ST CLASS RECORDED IS NOW £2.40 FOR ONE RECORD WITH NO EXTRA CHARGE FOR 2 ADDITIONAL ITEMS. SPECIAL DELIVERY IS £7.00 OVERSEAS: EUROPE IS £3.50 AIRMAIL, £9.00 REGISTERED POST. ITEMS OVER £40 NEED TO GO BY REGISTERED POST. REST OF THE WORLD IS £4.50 AIRMAIL, £10.00 REGISTERED POST. ITEMS OVER £40 NEED TO GO BY REGISTERED POST.

Don't forget vinyl carvers own labels are not the size of proper labels, they're much smaller

Offended with a joke about a motorbike? This lot need help and a sense of humour transplant.