Pete S

You can apply that to endless amount of records, this is, er, northern soul, not soul...two totally different animals. August & Deneen is brilliant.

Thats weird then because the B side, as far as I can tell, is a US recording, female vocal

You sure, I thought I sold you that for money stuff, I wouldn't have parted with it otherwise...or would I...

Do what???

Mark did a record called 'Gonna love you stronger baby' ever come out on Casino Classics? Reason I ask, I've got what looks like a proper audiodisc acetate of it here with a soul ballad called Something Blew My Mind. One side is credited to Reflections. I always thought it was a UK tailor made but now I'm not sure

Nah just thought I'd see if anyone would bite. I'm not fussed either way. Skiing is a good record, it's not great but it is good. Adam & Eve really reminds me of some great times and I'll never go off it.

Skiing in the snow - fantastic record Like Adam & Eve - even better record Larry Davis - f*cking rubbish those soul snobs who can't see the importance and excellence of records like Skiing In The Snow ought to go back to the rave scene or wherever it is you emereged from

I am here Is it a demo? No not strictly, it doesn't have the release date on it. Having said that, it must have had that A put on it for a purpose because most copies don't have it so it's probably just to identify it to those who don't know that it is the A side. I used to have quite a lot of records on Virgin and Island with these A's on them, but I bought most over the counter at record shops.

It's a classic Northern Soul record but it's only worth half that. Does that kettledrum and sax intro not do anything for you???

Really?????

It can't be a boot with a delta number beginning with 65...dates it to 1967...if it were a boot it would begin with 90 something or 100 something.

Ted I think that must be very very rare, a styrene demo - I've had a few demos but they are always vinyl. Having said that, I wouldn't ask more than £50 for it.

It's no secret that the auction site you are talking about extends it's closing time by 5 minutes every time a new bid is placed - he told me that, and he'd tell you that if you asked him. Strange way of doing things.

Playgirl is a horrible white group effort. There's a version of Double Life on their LP. Oliver Norman came out on UK Polydor for some reason!

I listed two in 2003 - £40 and £50. Both yellow issues, though there is a white demo as well, only had that once though.

The Wizard is an absolutely brilliant record

This is my collection of UK LABEL Ska, Rocksteady and Reggae. Apart from 3 or 4 records, it is all from the period 1960 to 1972. If anything takes your fancy, let me know the details and I will send you the information on that record, condition, label etc. This is a rough draft of the list and I haven't decided what to do yet; set sale, auction or Ebay. I will consider selling them as a job lot but the bidding would have to start at £8,000. THE LEADERS - HOPE SOMEDAY - AMALGAMATED SIR GIBBS - PEOPLE GRUDGEFUL - AMALGAMATED THE PIONEERS - LONG SHOT - AMALGAMATED THE SOUL SISTERS - WRECK A BUDDY - AMALGAMATED DENNIS ALCAPONE - POWER VERSION - ACKEE ALTON ELLIS - TOO LATE TO TURN BACK NOW - ACKEE EWAN & JERRY - OH BABE - BLUE BEAT THE STRANGER - ROUGH AND TOUGH - BLUE BEAT ERIC MORRIS - HUMPTY DUMPTY - BLUE BEAT ERIC MORRIS - SAMPSON - BLACK SWAN DELROY WILSON - GOODBYE - BLACK SWAN ERIC MORRIS - RIVER COME DOWN - BLACK SWAN DERRICK MORGAN - STREET GIRL - BLACK SWAN BARBARA JONES 0 SAD MOVIES - BULLET THE MAYTONES - LOVING REGGAE - BLUE CAT THE UNIQUES - GIRLS LIKE DIRT - BLUE CAT THE SLICKERS - NANA - BLUE CAT LYNN TAITT - JOE WHITE - WAY OF LIFE / I'M SO PROUD - BLUE CAT EL PASSO - MOSQUITO ONE - BIG SHOT B.B. SEATON - I WANT JUSTICE - BIG LORNA BENNETT - BREAKFAST IN BED - BLUE MOUNTAIN BOB ANDY - DESPERATE LOVER - BAMBOO RUPIE EDWARDS - BUCK SHOT - CACTUS LLOYD PARKS - MAFIA - CACTUS JO JO BENNETT - LEAVING HOME - CACTUS ROY SHIRLEY - THIS WORLD - COUNT SHELLY HONEYBOY & TAPPER ZUKIE - FEELING HIGH - COUNT SHELLY SOUL VENDORS - DRUM SONG - COXSONE THE TENNORS - PRESSURE AND SLIDE - COXSONE JACKIE MITTOO - RAM JAM - COXSONE MARCIA GRFFITHS - FEEL LIKE JUMPING - COXSONE THE ETERNALS - QUEEN OF THE MINSTRELS - COXSONE NORMA FRAZER - FIRST CUT IS THE DEEPEST - COXSONE THE HAMLINS - SOUL AND INSPIRATION - COXSONE DUDLEY SIBLEY - RUN BOY RUN - COXSONE BOP & THE BELTONES - SMILE LIKE AN ANGEL - COXSONE THE ETHIOPIANS - REGGAE HIT THE TOWN - CRAB THE VERSATILES - CHILDREN GET READY - CRAB THE TECHNIQUES - WHO YOU GONNA RUN TO - CAMEL JONNY ORGAN - DON JUAN - CAMEL VAL BENNETT - MIDNIGHT SPIN - CAMEL THE FEDERALS - SHOCKING LOVE - CAMEL THE GAYLADS - SEVEN IN ONE - CAMEL HONEYBOY MARTIN - DREADER THAN DREAD- CALTONE THE TARTANS - AWAKE THE TOWN - CALTONE The following are all on the Doctor Bird label KEN BOOTHE - SAY YOU THE ETHIOPIANS - THE WHIP ALTON ELLIS - I'VE GOT A DATE JOHNNY & THE ATTRACTIONS - I'M MOVING ON SIR LORD COMIC - SKAING WEST THE FUGITIVES - THE LECTURE ROLANDO AL - PHOENIX CITY PHILLIS DILLON - DON'T STAY AWAY THE PARAGONS - HAPPY GO LUCKY GIRL AL & THE VIBRATORS - MOVE UP THE SKATALITES - DR RING DING CLANCY ECCLES - FEEL THE ROCKING DERRICK HARRIOTT - JOHN TOM TONY GREGORY - BABY COME ON HOME ROY SHIRLEY - HOLD THEM REUBEN ANDERSON - CHRISTMAS TIME AGAIN LESTER STERLING - INEZ THE SILVERTONES - IT'S REAL/ LYNN TAITT - STORM WARNING ROLANDO AL - I LOVE YOU JUSTIN HINES - THE HIGHER THE MONKEY CLIMBS ALTON ELLIS - SHAKE IT THE GAYLADS - LADY WITH THE RED DRESS ON THE WAILERS - RUDE BOY BABA BROOKS - KING SIZE BYRON LEE - CASH BOX - DUKE BORIS GARDINER - ELIZABETHA REGGAE - DUKE THE TECHNIQUES - MAN OF MY WORD/THE TIME HAS COME - DUKE THE TECHNIQUES - WHAT AM I TO DO/YOU'RE MY EVERYTHING - DUKE CLANCY ECCLES - SHOO BE DO - DUKE THE TECHNIQUES - THERE COMES A TIME/I WISH IT WOULD RAIN - DUKE RUDDY & SKETTO - HUSH BABY - DICE PRINCE BUSTER - BLACK HEAD CHINAMAN - DICE PRINCE BUSTER - THEY GOT TO COME - DICE DENNIS ALCAPONE - WHAT DID YOU SAY - DOWNTOWN DANDY - I'M YOUR PUPPET - DOWNTOWN THE ISRAELITES - THE GAMES PEOPLE PLAY - DOWNTOWN PRINCE OF DARKNESS - BURIAL OF LONGSHOT - DOWNTOWN DANDY - REGGAE IN YOUR JEGGAE - DOWNTOWN AUDREY - LOVE ME TONIGHT - DOWNTOWN DANDY - MOVE YOUR MULE - DOWNTOWN TONY TRIBE - RED RED WINE - DOWNTOWN U. ROY - ROCK TO THE BEAT - DUKE REID THE TENNORS - HOPEFUL VILLAGE - DUKE REID ERIC DONALDSON - BLUE BOOT - DYNAMIC THE BLUES BUSTERS - EACH ONE TEACH ONE - DYNAMIC HUGH ROY - FESTIVAL WISE - DYNAMIC DENNIS ALCAPONE - RIPE CHERRY - DYNAMIC THE CARIBBEATS - HIGHWAY 300 - DOUBLE D BOBBY AITKEN - CELL BLOCK ELEVEN - DOUBLE D KING STITT - YOU WERE MADE FOR ME - ESCORT TONY SCOTT - WHAT AM I TO DO - ESCORT DAVE BARKER - SHE WANT IT - ESCORT THE CRYSTALITES - SLIPPERY - EXPLOSION MONTY MORRIS - HIGHER THAN THE HIGHEST MOUNTAIN - EXPLOSION PRINCE BUSTER - SHAKING UP ORANGE STREET - FAB PRINCE BUSTER - TRAIN TO GIRLS TOWN - FAB ERIC MORRIS - HUMPTY DUMPTY - FAB THE TENNORS - RIDE YOU DONKEY - FAB JOHNNIE LOVER - STRAIGHT TO THE HEAD - GREEN DOOR SHORTY - PRESIDENT MASH UP THE RESIDENT - GREEN DOOR WINSTON SCOTLAND - MY LITTLE FILLY - GREEN DOOR U.ROY - KING TUBBYS SPECIAL - GREEN DOOR I.ROY - HOT BOMB - GREEN DOOR YOUNG AL CAPONE - GIRL CALLED CLOVER - GREEN DOOR PAT KELLY - STRIVING FOR THE RIGHT - GAS ERIC BARNET - THE HORSE - GAS THE MELODIANS - RING OF GOLD - GAS PAT KELLY - I AM COMING HOME - GAS PAT KELLY - HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE - GAS PAT KELLY - NEVER GIVE UP - GAS THE UNIQUES - LOVE AND DEVOTION - GAS CHARLEY ACE - ONTARIOUS VERSION - GG VERBE & SON - LITTLE BOY BLUE - GG DELANO STEWART - DANCE WITH ME - HIGH NOTE DELANO STEWART - WHEREVER I LAY MY HAT - HIGH NOTE BOB & MARCIA - YOUNG GIFTED & BLACK - HARRY J HARRY J ALL STARS - LIQUIDATOR - HARRY J The following are all on the white Island label DERRICK MORGAN - THE HOP JIMMY CLIFF - MISS JAMAICA L. LAWRENCE - GARDEN OF LOVE SHENLEY DUFFUS - I AM RICH KING EDWARDS - RUSSIAN ROULETTE TOP GRANT - SUZIE BABA BROOKS - BANK TO BANK ROY & PAULETTE - HAVE YOU SEEN MY BABY DERRICK & PATSY - SEA WAVE OWEN GRAY - JEZEBEL KENTRICK PATRICK - MAN TO MAN ROY & MILLIE - THEY'LL COME A DAY THE VIKINGS - HALLELUJAH ANDY & JOEY - HAVE YOU EVER EDWARDS GROUP - HE GAVE YOU TO ME SHENLEY DUFFUS - GIVE TO GET THE TONETTES - LOVE THAT IS REAL THE VIKINGS - SIX AND SEVEN BOOKS OF MOSES JIMMY CLIFF - ONE EYED JACKS The following are all on the red and white Island label JUSTIN HINDS - CARRY GO BRING COME ALTON ELLIS - CRY TOUGH THE MELODIANS - LAY IT ON LYN BECKFORD - COMBINATION JUSTIN HINES - RUB UP PUSH UP THE GAYLADS - YOU'LL NEVER LEAVE HIM THE SKATALITES - DOCTOR KILDARE THE GAYLADS - GOODBYE DADDY DESMOND BAKER - RUDE BOY GONE A JAIL DERRICK HARRIOTT - THE LOSER DERRICK HARRIOTT - WALK THE STREETS THE PARAGONS - ON THE BEACH SHENLEY DUFFUS - RUKUMBINE DON DRUMMOND - UNIVERSITY GOES SKA BABA BROOKS - VITAMIN A/ALTON ELLIS - DANCE CRASHER TOMMY MCCOOK - ROCKET SHIP DERRICK MORGAN - BLAZING FIRE BABA BROOKS - GUNS FEVER DON DRUMMOND - STAMPEDE THE SKATALITES - BALL O FIRE THE SKATALITES - GUNS OF NAVARONE DELROY WILSON - DANCING MOOD ROLAND ALPHONSO - EL PUSSY CAT THE GAYLADS - STOP MAKING LOVE THE SKATALITES - AROUND THE WORLD SOUL BROTHERS - SOUND ONE THE SKATALITES - DRAGON WEAPON HORTENSE & ALTON - SOMETHING YOU'VE GOT KEN PARKER - HOW COULD I FITSY & FREDDIE - WHY DID YOU DO IT DERRICK MORGAN - STARVATION DON DRUMMOND - SNOWBOY DON DRUMMOND - GARDEN OF LOVE JOE HIGGS - I AM THE SONG DELROY WILSON - UNGRATEFUL BABY JUSTIN HINES - JUMP OUT OF THE FRYING PAN THE SKATALITES - INDEPENDENT ANNIVERSARY SKA THE RIOTS - I AM IN LOVE LEE PERRY - NEVER GET WEARY THE WAILERS - WHATS NEW PUSSYCAT JUSTIN HINES - PEACE AND LOVE THE CLAREDONIANS - YOU CAN'T BE HAPPY THE WAILERS - RUDE BOY GET BAIL ERIC MORRIS - SUDDENLY MILLIE & JACKIE - NEVER AGAIN THE VIKINGS - JUST GOT TO BE THE MOVING BROTHERS - DARLING I LOVE YOU THE VIKINGS - SIX AND SEVEN BOOKS OF MOSES BABA BROOKS - THREE BLIND MICE THE WAILERS - MR TALKATIVE STRANGER COLE - WE ARE ROLLING THE CLARENDONIANS - YOU CAN'T KEEP ME DOWN THE WAILERS - PUT IT ON KING PERRY - RUB AND SQUEEZE THE TENORS - COPY ME DONKEY THE TARTANS - DANCE ALL NIGHT KEN BOOTHE - TRAIN IS COMING DELROY WILSON - GET READY LYN TAIT - SOMETHING STUPID IKE & THE CRYSTALITES - ILLYA KURYAKIN JUSTIN HINDS - SAVE A BREAD AUGUSTUS PABLO - KING TUBBY MEETS ROCKERS UPTOWN - ISLAND DESMOND DEKKER - A IT MEK - JJ THE KILOWATTS - BRING IT ON HOME - JJ THE ETHIOPIANS - EVERYTHING CRASH - JJ LAUREL AITKEN - RISE AND FALL - JJ LITTLE BOY BLUE - DARK END OF THE STREET - JACKPOT DENNIS ALCAPONE - JUMPING JACK - JACKPOT BOY WONDER - THEY TALK ABOUT LOVE - JACKPOT SLIM SMITH - CAN'T DO WITHOUT IT - JACKPOT LAUREL AITKEN - MARYLEE - MELODISC THE SOUL TOPS - SWING BABY SWING - NU BEAT ALTON ELLIS - LA LA MEANS I LOVE YOU - NU BEAT DERRICK MORGAN - DO THE BENG BENG - PYRAMID DERRICK MORGAN - GOT YOU ON MY MIND - PYRAMID DERRICK MORGAN - GREEDY GAL - PYRAMID DERRICK MORGAN - KILL ME DEAD - PYRAMID DERRICK MORGAN - TOUGHER THAN TOUGH - PYRAMID DERRICK MORGAN - COURT DISMISS - PYRAMID DESMOND EEKKER - 007 - PYRAMID DESMOND DEKKER - RUDE BOY TRAIN - PYRAMID DESMOND DEKKER - MOTHER PEPPER - PYRAMID DESMOND DEKKER - IT MIEK - PYRAMID DESMOND DEKKER - PICKNEY GAL - PYRAMID SOUL BROTHERS - CONFUCIOUS - PYRAMID SOUL BROTHERS - MARCUS JUNIOR - PYRAMID JONNIE MELODY - GOVERN YOUR MOUTH - PYRAMID WINSTON SCOTLAND - BUTTER CUP - PUNCH THE DYNAMICS - THE BURNER - PUNCH KEALIN BECKFORD - MUSICAL COMBINATION - PUNCH CHARLIE ACE - BOOK OF BOOKS - PUNCH ERIC DONALDSON - NEVER GET AWAY - PUNCH THE UPSETTERS - CLINT EASTWOOD - PUNCH THE UPSETTERS - DRY ACID - PUNCH DOBBY DOBSON - I WAN'T BORN YESTERDAY - PUNCH PRINCE BUSTER - BIG FIVE - PRINCE BUSTER MONTY MORRIS - SAY WHAT YOU SAY - PAMA CLANCY ECCLES - WHAT WILL YOUR MAMA SAY - PAMA ALTON ELLIS - MY TIME IS THE RIGHT TIME - PAMA JUNIOR BYLES - AUNTIE LU LU - PAMA ALTON ELLIS - SOME DAY - PAMA ASTON FERGUSON - RAMONA - PANETONE THE KINGSTONIANS - WINEY WINEY - RIO THE RULERS - DON'T BE A RUDE BOY - RIO THE ETHIOPIANS - TRAIN TO SKAVILLE - RIO THE ETHIOPIANS - I'M GONNA TAKE OVER NOW - RIO THE CLARENDONIANS - MUSICAL TRAIN - RIO THE RULERS - COPASETIC - RIO BOB ANDY - STAY IN MY LONELY ARMS - RIO CARL DAWKINS - BABY I LOVE YOU - RIO ERROL DUNKLEY - YOU'RE GONNA NEED ME - RIO THE CLARENDONIANS - RUDIE BAM BAM - RIO THE RULERS - WELL COVERED - RIO DON DRUMMOND - ROYAL FLUSH - R & B DELROY WILSON - PRINCE PHAROAH - R & B DELROY WILSON - LION OF JUDAH - R & B THE GAYLADS - WHAP WHAP - R & B ROCKING HORSE - HARD TIME - RANDYS SOUL VENDORS - PUPA LICK - STUDIO ONE ALTON ELLIS - I AM JUST A GUY - STUDIO ONE DAWN PENN - YOU DON'T LOVE ME - STUDIO ONE THE GLADIATORS - HELLO CAROL - STUDIO ONE DELROY WILSON - I AM NOT A KING - STUDIO ONE LARRY & ALVIN - NANNY GOAT - STUDIO ONE THE HEPTONES - FATTY FATTY - STUDIO ONE THE CLARENDONIANS - TABLES GOING TURN - STUDIO ONE ALTON ELLIS - I'M STILL IN LOVE - STUDIO ONE THE CLARENDONIANS - HE WHO LAUGHS LAST - STUDIO ONE MR. FOUNDATION - SEE THEM A COME - STUDIO ONE THE VICTORS - THINGS COMEW TO BUMP - STUDIO ONE ROLAND ALPHONSO - LOOKAWAY SKA - STUDIO ONE THE HEPTONES - ONLY SIXTEEN - STUDIO ONE THE GAYLADS - WON'T YOU COME HOME - STUDIO ONE ROLAND ALPHONSO - NUCLEAR WEAPON - SKA BEAT THE WAILERS - SIMMER DOWN - SKA BEAT CARLTON REID - TURN ON THE LIGHTS - SKA BEAT OWEN & LEON SILVERA - WOMAN - SKA BEAT JACKIE OPEL - MORE WOOD IN THE FIRE - SKA BEAT BABA BROOKS - ONE EYED GIANT - SKA BEAT BABA BROOKS - GIRLS TOWN SKA - SKA BEAT THE WAILERS - LOVE AND AFFECTION - SKA BEAT THE SOUL BROS (MOONLIGHTERS) - I'LL COME BACK - SKA BEAT COLLINS ALL STARS - SIR COLLINS SPECIAL - SMASH THE AGGRAVTORS - BIG RED BALL - SMASH JOHN HOLT - MY HEART IS GONE - SMASH THE AGGRO BAND - SWEET LIKE CANDY - SMASH DELROY WILSON - NEVER GIVE UP - SIR CHRISTOPHER SCOTTY - SESAME STREET - SONG BIRD LAUREL AITKEN - BOGGIE IN MY BONES - STARLITE LOUISA MARK - CAUGHT YOU IN A LIE - SAFARI DENNIS ALCAPONE - THE GREAT WOGGIE - TREASURE ISLE PHYLLIS DILLON - ONE LIFE TO LIVE - TREASURE ISLE THE SILVERTONES - MIDNIGHT HOUR - TREASURE ISLE THE TECHNIQUES - YOU DON'T CARE - TREASURE ISLE ALTON ELLIS - ROCK STEADY - TREASURE ISLE THE MELODIANS - I WILL GET ALONG - TREASURE ISLE THE THREE TOPS - DO IT RIGHT - TREASURE ISLE TOMMY MCOOK - PERSIAN CAT - TREASURE ISLE THE JAMAICANS - PEACE AND LOVE - TREASURE ISLE PHYLLIS DILLON - DON'T TOUCH MY TOMATO - TREASURE ISLE THE MELODIANS - I CAUGHT YOU - TREASURE ISLE THE JAMAICANS - BABA BOOM - TREASURE ISLE THE TECHNIQUES - DRINK WINE - TREASURE ISLE ALTON ELLIS - ALL MY TEARS - TREASURE ISLE VAL BENNETT - SPANISH HARLEM - TROJAN DENZIL DENNIS - HUSH DON'T YOU CRY - TROJAN JOHN & JOYA - I'LL BE LONELY - TROJAN THE UNTOUCHABLES - TIGHTEN UP - TROJAN DRUMBAGO & THE DYNAMITES - DULCEMANIA - TROJAN FREDDIE MCKAY - LOVE IS A TREASURE - TROJAN LEE PERRY - YOU CRUMMY - TROJAN THE THREE TOPS - IT'S RAINING - TROJAN ALTON ELLIS - BREAKING UP - TROJAN DUKE REID - JUDGE SYMPATHY - TROJAN DAVID ISAACS - PLACE IN THE SUN - TROJAN THE KINGSTONIANS - MIX IT UP - TROJAN THE PIONEERS - LONG SHOT KICK THE BUCKET - TROJAN JIMMY CLIFF - WONDERFUL WORLD BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE - TROJAN THE BLEECHERS - EASE UP - TROJAN THE MAYTALS - 54 46 WAS MY NUMBER - TROJAN WINSTON WRIGHT - MESHWIRE - TROJAN NICKY THOMAS - LOVE OF THE COMMON PEOPLE - TROJAN LLOYD YOUNG - HIGH EXPLOSION - TECHNIQUES DAVE & ANSIL COLLINS - DOUBLE BARREL - TROJAN SLIM SMITH - EVERYBODY NEEDS LOVE - UNITY SLIM SMITH - CONFUSION - UNITY MAX ROMEO - WET DREAM - UNITY THE HIPPY BOYS - PEACE MAKER - UNITY MAX ROMEO - MINI SKIRT VISION - UNITY THE CLARENDONIANS - THE ANGELS - UNITY THE CORSAIRS - GOODNIGHT MY LOVE - UNITY KING CANNON - FIRE BALL - UNITY THE UPSETTERS - A LIVE INJECTION - UPSETTER

I had one sent to me yesterday - had my email address right and that - said I had paid for some watches from L.A., if I believed this transaction to be incorrect, click here (link to paypal security) - however, the link takes you straight to a spoof paypal site which looks identical to the real one, the only clue is in the actual address at the top of the page. Must have fooled a lot of people.

I had some similar items on ebay this week - I started them at a fiver, and I plainly stated ACETATES CUT BY AND FOR MYSELF and also THIS IS NOT AN ORIGINAL MOTOWN ACETATE. Nothing wrong with that.

Anyone remember back in 78-79, this record was as common as Kim Weston on MGM! Always a £3 special. Always issues. I'd say £35 issue £50 tops demo. I found an MGM lp by here but when I got it it was a real lounge supper club act.

I got one of these a couple of years back when I found 'The Matt Lucas Fan Club' on the net - so I wrote to them and asked if any members had the record, and it turned out that the president of the fan club was...Matt Lucas. He sold me his only copy for $500. I said can you sign the sleeve and he signed the bloody label in silver pen, so if you hear that record played out and see it with this autograph on, it's that copy. I sold it for £700 to - bugger, forgot, from Lowton way...anyway in answer to your question...can't remember what was in the run off!

Oh yes

Has anyone ever actually used that word "biggie" in a conversation and not just the written word? Cos I've never heard anyone use it...except Pep once, in the 70's

Yes, a version of Just Ask Me by Etta Thomas produced by..oh bugger what was that guys name..his son is called Alan and he used to be on the message boards a few years back, did a radio show on the net...short name, about 4/5 letters...oh never mind

Yep