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I was listening to Carl and Maria Willinghams set at Solid Hit Soul In London and been thinking the stuff they played can't be on refosoul/CD/Youtube etc and do people travel to hear their sets?.Surely it's not the case that everything that was released is out there on comps.Is it still the case that when unreleased stuff gets discovered that a few acetates get given to key dj's to push then it eventually gets out on CD and is dropped.

More to the point who would travel miles to hear a particular deejay who would play sounds you would never get to hear anywhere else.

Northern soul is based on exclusivity and rare sounds.With the advent of ipod/youtube/CD there are a lot of sounds available to the general public. With a click of a mouse or push of a button you can hear the music.In the seventies/eighties people travelled miles to hear particular sounds that you could not hear anywhere else until they were uncovered/bootlegged.Are there any released sounds not yet available on CD/Youtube etc and are there any deejays that just specialise in collecting these tracks.I know Butch is one of those deejays but he plays a lot of unreleased stuff.What are those tracks not available on youtube/CD or any other downloadable format.

I don't know if it is celebrating failure, celebrating the underdog maybe and more importantly being in the know, one step ahead and exclusivity.When it gets known, bootlegged, commercialised then it's dropped.This is what keeps it moving on and on and on...until the well dries up in 50 years or so. I suppose Wigan stopped searching for soul in 78/79 when all the pop started getting played and the searching for good black music stopped.The djs have definately been proven wrong due to the immense amount of good sixties/seventies/eighties tracks out there..even nineties and millenium. Just opened a brown packet to find you did it for me-Al Wilson,In Love-Tony Galla,Its not too late-Al Johnson and a new record If This Aint Love-Nicole Willis....all quality records and were overlooked at the time by the general public (don't know about the Nicole Willis).The problem starts when djs mine the substandard stuff recorded in a toilet which the artists didn't see fit to be released at the time and are playing it because it is exclusive.Exclusive don't mean good.Does it celebrate failure...no.Does it champion the underdog yes.

Its not hard to source an original Adidas bag is it???. This is one of those tat ones that you can buy in any high street shop.They should have got the team who made the seventies cop series on the case with Phil Glenister in it...might be a laugh watching it for continuity errors.Im presuming its set in the Wigan area.Will be funny if he's carrying that bag.John Inman last used one in the Are you being served film when they went abroad...and Im sure hello honky tonks would have used it as well.

Anybody out there willing to sell a copy?

Think the Pet Shop Boys based their career on Cathedrals.Got it in a Richard Domar soulpack

Anybody remember/got a copy of the yoof tv series something else......remember they had an article on northern soul where Im sure they visited a load of kids in skelmersdale.Think it was from 79/80.

Surrounded By A Ray Of Sunshine-Samantha Jones..........of it's time. She later went on to record and release a record for a car company....the record Ford Leads The Way.Maybe she should re record it for Toyota and retitle it I Dont Want Footpedals Failing On Me (Ian Latrine remix)

What about the failed searling spin...The free-Taking It Away (phillips).Top tune in my opinion. Dont know how it failed to click and one Im going to pull out and stick in the box.Searling is pictured with it with Kev Roberts and Russ somewhere. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh heres one the elvis impersonater Ral Donner-Dont Let It Slip Away......how did this get past the quality control!!!!

catalinas-you havent the right lucky charms-tied to your heart..........awful lou roberts-everything you always wanted

in a similar sort of style.Think they imported thousands of those big tree 45s.Got an issue on uk phillips as well Baltimore and ohio marching band-condition red.................its the ice cream man.can i have a 99 with a flake

the closer she gets-john drevar (a personal fave tho!!) stop and youll become aware-earl okin dont take the lovers from the world-shirley bassey there isnt anything-gidian the night-frankie valli midnight confessions-grassroots white lies-bullet (another personal fave) never the twixt-the present give it tens mins...

Good little You-Joey Dee Mickey Mouse Concerto Got hung up along the way Up and over-Jay traynor Wait A Minute-Tim Tam Statue- Tommy Sands Too Sweet to be forgotten-Newbeats I Dont Want To Love You-Barry Lee Show Soft Walkin pushin too hard-the seeds tons of others

I've got a UK Spinners issue of this.I heard this is quite rare as it was withdrawn just in case they got mixed up with the UK Folk group of the same name and re released as the Detroit Spinners.How much is this issue as i might be tempted to fleabay it.

Lesson number one Biddu and Northern Dancer..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ep1ef0FpLw Lesson number 2 Funky Gibbon Northern soul biggie was Black Pudding Bertha (The Queen Of Northern Soul). Is this on refosoul

Da da da da.....da da da da da da ooooooaaahhhhh.....you can tell the one on the right was an original wigan goer as his trousers have been pulled up so he can wade thru the piss in the bogs. Pikeys dog has summed it up. Keep it in the bedroom and the front room when ya mams out.Never been to Japan but it is worrying that theres a nation of Keb clones out there.

And the early popcorn years in Japan

What was i hearing earlier on.......but he did it with integrity not even Mr Shorofski could defend this.Remember my name.......fame i'm gonna live forever.How does this compare with Sharons dvd.

This topic is about northern soul dance schools????

Just dug out my Keb Darge acetate original.....still in good condition although I was chasing Kumano for years at Cleethorpes pier after I was told the tune here was the Keb Darge original Anybody got the an shirt issue?

Look lets put this to bed.....Sharon is just a tacky CD reissue.Trickster is a second issue of Keb Darge which has been licensed officially by Keb ....heres the truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dIISugkH0o Now Paul Sadot warned me about boots from Japan. They are hard to differentiate from the Keb original. The Keb original has a Hawaii shirt designs and jean turnups as does the Trickster second issue. These boots from Japan havent even got the hawaiian shirt logo or jean turnups. And finally a limited run of a Japanese one off press with Hawaiian shirt design.....very rare Anybody got the Hawaiian shirt issue?

Theres a woman called Sharon who could probably show them a few moves.I'm waiting for the Martin Scorcese epic....the road to Wigan Casino or its alternate title The Road to Station Road.Surely it must have the same storyline as Sold Out.I think there could be a good story in a northern based film but I'm sure it will be cappucinoed up no signs of bootboys with cross earings,jacking amphet up,chemist burglaries,Soussan and the bootleggers,crate digging,hitchiking,nicking cars to get there,music splits jazz funk. will Frank from Shameless play Curtis....He's a baybeeee play Levine,the fashions (they will bugger this up. The last effort i saw were kids dancing in bowling shoes and far too much Fred Perry) .Getting rolled, fights with punks/grebos,people dying!!!!.Working in a shit job.... Come on In your northern soul film who would you get to play who. Curtis-Frank from Shameless....

Wanted Eula Cooper Standing By Love The Q Thats The Way vg plus conditions okay PM Me

Wasn't the 1940s look a brief fad at the goldmine in Canvey Island in the mid-late seventies as was the american GI look. I'm sure it was very Roxy Music influenced and it was contemporary at the time but it didn't look tacky either.I'm sure there was a similar thing going on at Blackpool Mecca and correct me if I'm wrong but they werent in to baggies/vests. The guy in Rushtons book at the Mecca in the beertowel baggies looks well out of place(Francis Tee photo).The term northern soul means different things to different people.It has split so may ways now and theres so many genres it has almost lost it's meaning. Theres revival mods who were brought up on a diet of stafford and 100 club sounds Rockabillies who are into the very early almost doowop sounds Wiganites into oldies and stompers Progressives into cutting edge newies and b sides (some great and some stuff not so great) New kids who have seen the Duffy video and want to find out what its about Seventies and modern fans.Although Modern is a confusing term!!! Ex Mecca/Ritz and people from a Southport Soul Weekender history The fashions Mods in Ben Shermans,sideburns, smart trousers and a John Smedley crew neck Rockabillies in turn up jeans and chain from the jean pocket Wiganites.Moustache jeans and dress shirt Progressives. Slick back hair (geek glasses). The 1950s american scientist look New kids, skinny jeans, beard,pork pie hat (puzzled look on their faces) Seventies and modern fans (still got a hint of the wedge there and would love to have highlights again) Im sure if Northern Soul were transplanted back to the seventies people would be wearing what kids wear today.When did it stop going forward in music and clothes.I suspect the last big thing was Drizabone Pressure and the Angie Stone track.It seems to be going backwards not forwards.There is hope when the Kings Go Forth Track is played which is not a money grabbing cash in and a record made with some integrity.One eye to the past and one eye to the future.Re progressives.Theres a lot of these collectors/deejays who don't actually dance so cannot listen with a dancers ear which results in a lot of substandard stuff getting past the quality control although there is a lot of great stuff....was at Solid Hit Soul the other night and some great stuff was played (The Limitations was a blinder).My own choice is well produced late sixties with a strong dance beat dare i say it traditional northern soul and because I like a good production I have no problem with uptempo seventies either.I like a slow record at the end as well not in the middle of a set....It is funny in hindsight how Wigan gave up the chase for stompers because they thought that it had all been mined....threres a thread post Wigan stompers....