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I collect Wand stuff (I did a Wand comp for Union Square) but never heard this....I'll take it for £65 if you want.Paypal gift.You got any other stuff for sale?
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I can think of about 7 off the top of my head,jazz funk ,P-Funk,Punk-Funk (A Certain Ratio etc),Deep Funk,Afro Funk (Fela Kuti),Jazz Funk (in a Ramsey Lewis/Bobby Timmons bag),Latin Funk,Brit Funk (Freeze etc).....any more..what about rock funk (Led Zepp/Grand Funk Railroadetc)..You can find funk in almost all music even Kraftwerk (check out Ruzruck)
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Most Expensive British Demo And Issue And Usa Demo And Issue
Wiggyflat replied to Staceys Dad's topic in All About the SOUL
Seems strange but the other side is definately Ben E King though.Bystanders is probably a cover so whoever did the original of that track is probably what I have got.Sounds like a black female singer with a girl group behind her. I know that the Dakotas did a version of I Can't Break The News To Myself (B side of Spider and The Fly) which I have got somewhere so the publishing theory is right and that it is an acetate used to try and get UK artists to cover songs. -
Most Expensive British Demo And Issue And Usa Demo And Issue
Wiggyflat replied to Staceys Dad's topic in All About the SOUL
Same song, definately not Cilla or the Bystanders.What are the composer credits -
Most Expensive British Demo And Issue And Usa Demo And Issue
Wiggyflat replied to Staceys Dad's topic in All About the SOUL
How about my Shapiro Bernstein and Co acetate of it then.Got it years ago with a Billy Preston acetate.The other side has a female group and a track called My Love Come HomeThis side is definately not Ben E King and it stumps everyone I play it to . -
Think the hats had chinstraps so they never flew off. Think they had to wear them all the time even patrolling around town.Don't think the cops ever went 2 up either.If they did in those days they wouldn't be bragging about it. No equal opportunities then,...........
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Here we go then....this is trainspotterish.Quad witha better soundtrack.At 401 scoot cutdown.Never in 64........the best bits are at 437 with the guy in denim flares and some other scooter riders with long hair and then Tom Petch's blue GP (1970!!!) with fur around the headlight to try and mask it as a ???LI??.Check the paintjob (in 64???).Heres some pics of it. No wonder there are no close up shots as its called My Generation. Released in.....65?.Check out the bloke in the denim bags?? and then that cutdown as well.Some clubs painted numbers on the parkas on the back denoting when you joined. Theres a lad with a number 3.Not a 64 mod thing. The point is they did the best they could at the time....no internet/soul sauce/books etc. Theres no excuse now as the knowledge is at the end of a mouse click or e mail.It's these small things that make the difference between a well made and researched timeless film and what looks like a quick thrown together mish mash.I do like Quad by the way but only in small doses.There is footage from a regional TV programme that filmed scaborough on a bank holiday in 77/78 and the northern clubs were featured heavily. Never seen it though. Maybe its stuck in Frank Boughs loft with his leather gear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki_VvA0H8ds
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There were no mods left in London in 78.Punk and new wave were the thing.The producers got some original mods to teach the actors how to dance but they needed a mass of people as extras in the Brighton scenes.The northern scooter club scene had flourished since the early seventies and there were clubs dotted everywhere.The producers managed to contact a lot of these clubs and invited them down for filming....the problem was time had not stopped still for them.The scooters had changed and a series 1 or 2 Lambretta was regarded as grandad material and they all mostly rode GP's.The problem was that GP's were manufactured in 69/70/71. They needed extras badly so that is why you see a few GP's in the film....with fur around the headlight. Im sure Chalkys scoot was a GP and you can see Tom Petch's My Generation Lambretta on the seafront with fur around the headlight...good job they didn't look closer as it had murals.Definately not 64.Their clothes had moved on and they still wore parkas with beermats and large club badges along with greatcoats,Denim bag jeans and DM's.Perfect for riding in. The hair was longer as well and some even sported beards.Northern Soul was the music choice and long runs to northern seaside towns morecambe/scarborough.The scoots also were stripped down with no panels and brass/chroming to the engines.Some still had lights and mirrors along with metalflaking ....on GP's as well.....this is all the producers could get at the time.To a lot of these lads Quad was the death knell to a scene that they had been involved in for years and they saw it when they met the London and south eastern Mods at the first bank holiday at Brighton for the first time after Quad was released.The northerners were all on scoots and the revival mods came on the train....wearing 60's mod gear/northerners in Parkas, DM's and baggies.They could not comprehend each other.Gary Bushell wrote about it in an article called March of the Mods...he couldnt get it either as there was a mod disco and as soon as The Killermeters finished they all buggered off to Wigan Casino.He even thought that the rat symbol on the sidepanels of some scoots was allegiance to The Stranglers when it was the Scunthorpe Road Rats symbol.....I wonder if this will mirror what will happen on the northern scene if a big movie comes out.
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Don't know about a northern soul Paul Weller but may kick off a northern soul cabaret scene....here's one band that have ditched playing Whojampaulwellersunderpants covers.....Hey baybeeee I get my kicks out on the floor (in a chicken in a basket stylee) https://thesignatures.co.uk/The_Signatures/the_signatures.html
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I'm making the point that Quad was done when there was no mod revival,no internet,no books on the subject (apart from a short chapter in Today There Are No Gentlemen-Nic Cohn),sixties clothes (must have been pretty hard to source), scooters in original pre 64 livery (hard) so they made the best from what they could get.There is no excuse these days not to get details correct. Theres a million books on Northern Soul Venues/internet/ websites.Don't they want to do it properly and project some sort of credible film!! Im sorry putting some cheap and tacky red plastic bag with northern soul written on it projects that image.. a cheap and tacky film.They could have sourced an original holdall with real patches on it and chose not to......doesn't that tell you something.Cheap and fake.Whatever happened to integrity.At least Quad had The Who as advisors.Who advised the people on Sold Out? .Do you really want to see legions of 15 year old kids in baggies and vests this summer at venues requesting footsee?? Heres another scooter/northern soul connection. Leeds Central central scooters.bmp central scooters.bmp
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There werent any real mods around when they did the filming which is why they had to recruit from the ranks of the northern scooter Clubs.York were one of the clubs and you can see Tom Petch's My Generation it it which was a customised GP(1970).You can also see a cutdown and the rider with a greatcoat on in the clifftop scene.Most of the northern clubs had been riding scooters and into northern soul from the early seventies and the fashions had changed which is why you will see beards, baggies, greatcoats,scooter club patches and GP's.There were no revival mods because there was no revival!!.The revival mods arrived with the first rally to Brighton which was organised by Mark Brough from Scunthorpe Pathfinders to celebrate the Quadrophenia release. The revival mods came from London on the train and the northern clubs arrived on scooters.They both looked at each other with suspicion ie (where did they come from !!).History has been rewritten ever since by mainly southern based journalists who think it all started again in 79.Heres Tom Petch's GP and some other pics......I got worried when I saw that bag on the cover of the DVD....Here we go a plastic bag with northern soul written on it........not a good start
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As long as they are not running around with those John Inman plastic soul holdalls with Northern soul fists on........
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I was waiting for the life on Mars bods to bust an allnighter after chasing Simon Soussan for bootlegging and the lead actor going up to the decks and saying you cant play this ...this is an oldie and the dj saying its a new release.An argument ensues about the merits of the Shrine label and the current unreleased stuff Adey is releasing while the Jack Reagan cop is kicking in the doors in the bogs.The young lead then walks over to the record bar to bump into a young Adey!!
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Oldies V Newies V Old Newies V New Oldies
Wiggyflat replied to Dazdakin's topic in All About the SOUL
Wait oh my brothers the great day will be soon upon us.We must Try A Little Harder The (in) Fidels will have their awakening. We now have one operative in their camp and he was welcomed like a brother.A true brave soldier who has masked himself as the oh oldie one....We have a young troubled soldier who is willing to enter the room of a thousand flares and wear the mask of Frank Wilson (their false god).The call to arms brothers is when we get the signal from both. They will dump their boxes of false history and pull out the true righteous (brothers) path......the hallowed vinyl will be played and an onslaught will ensue.We will watch the baggied heathens scatter and the power of the newie sent from our forefathers from Mecca who lost their way take over this old Souless land.......watch out for a signal...the call to arms will be a newies versus oldie battle in the spirit of the pacifier God Ritz who took us to the Carwash and the mouth of Jaws. -
Oldies V Newies V Old Newies V New Oldies
Wiggyflat replied to Dazdakin's topic in All About the SOUL
Ive looked....some quality stuff and all danceable..Don't suprise me with Sadot though because he can dance.Seems like you are doing the business.Is the playlist constantly changing or are you taking time to get certain tunes into peoples minds.I'm glad I'm not the only one on the same wavelength.This is the sort of stuff the oldies crowd would accept if it was introduced gradually. -
Oldies V Newies V Old Newies V New Oldies
Wiggyflat replied to Dazdakin's topic in All About the SOUL
Yeah.....rare Crevice night...The Winnettes live with Bottom Handy (Baby Thats A Groove!!) sponsored by Andrex...btw how is Sharon getting on at the dance school?Not heard from Sadot.....lets call him.....WINSTANLEY,WINSTANLEY...................WINSTANLEY...Is he here yet? -
Oldies V Newies V Old Newies V New Oldies
Wiggyflat replied to Dazdakin's topic in All About the SOUL
Northern Soul is a dirty word...............look how many fliers have R&B, Rare soul, crossover,modern etc etc and also include northern soul as an afterthought. Once upon a time you could see northern soul on a flyer and know what you were going to get....looks like if you just put northern soul people will be looking and assuming it's an oldies only event.Rare Soul on the flyer probably beat ballads/R&b/rockn roll/blues/midtempo/latin (no seventies).Wheres the middle ground. How about a northern Soul Event with a smattering of oldies and a load of newies that are as good as the oldies that are derided.Back to the deejays with quality control again and who have an ear and have an understanding of what people dance to... -
Does Anyone Know Who These People Are?
Wiggyflat replied to Ian Parker's topic in All About the SOUL
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Does Anyone Know Who These People Are?
Wiggyflat replied to Ian Parker's topic in All About the SOUL
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Does Anyone Know Who These People Are?
Wiggyflat replied to Ian Parker's topic in All About the SOUL
Not mine..........you want to read a book called time trouble and money by mark brough if youre into this stuff -
Oldies V Newies V Old Newies V New Oldies
Wiggyflat replied to Dazdakin's topic in All About the SOUL
Maybe Butch is trying to win the war within....a bit like the Taliban in the UK having inside operatives. Anybody got a list of what he played then? -
Oldies V Newies V Old Newies V New Oldies
Wiggyflat replied to Dazdakin's topic in All About the SOUL