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So Roger Eagle didn't jack the twisted Wheel in because the kids were demanding uptempo tamla derivative dance music which formed the basis of the Northern Soul Scene. So the northern soul scene wasn't an amphetamine upper drug based scene then.People crashed out on mogadon and heroin listening to blues and popcorn music until 6am. Slow and midtempo were played all night at these northern soul venues. Cal Tjader,Dynatones etc were played all night and were representative of a whole nighter. The rare soul scene and the northern soul scenes are 2 different kettles of fish.The rare soulers condemn the northern scene of being backward and old fashioned and dismissing it as being oldies based.The "progressives" are condemned as playing crap doowop, rejects that were not good enough back in the day and not giving a toss about dancefloor reaction. BTW I do like rare soul and R and B along with latin (but my latin is Jack Costanzo/Candido/Fania Allstars/Charlie/Eddie Palmieri/Wilson Simonal etc).Check out my threads on collecting british ......but don't try telling me AC Reed/Charles Sheffield/Eskew Reeder/Freddie Houston etc are NORTHERN SOUL... It seems to be a case of some people wanting to change the template.
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Northern soul is uptempo dance music of black tamla origin but can encompass seventies/eighties etc with the right sound.It has nothing to do with r&b,jazz,RARE SOUL,doo wop,latin,popcorn or any other trendy labels people want to call it.It is NORTHERN SOUL.There are plenty of gigs without the term NORTHERN SOUL on the tin as it is a word that is not in vogue. The current word is RARE SOUL.Do not be confused as this word has nothing to do with NORTHERN SOUL.Expect mid tempo,funky latin,popcorn and ballads.Anything apart from uptempo black music.Sometimes the term NORTHERN SOUL has bad connoctations from the seventies ie OLDIES.(Not moved on).NORTHERN SOUL are words to be proud of and not added to a flyer as an afterthought. There is history in the term that no amount of Adidas beard stroking trendy media glasses wearing beardos can steal or attempt to understand.
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Heres a few more pictures I got off Martin Allsopp.One is obviously the Top Rank in Hanley from xmas 73.Don't know who is playing though.The other is from the northern club in a cave??? Theres also 2 pics from 69 I believe Inez and Charlie Foxx.Anybody name the venue? Theres another piccie of a group of people in what i would describe as suedehead clothes, red socks, blazer badges, sheepskins.This is what I think as pre northern soul...youth club discos, Johnny Johnson,Invictus Hotwax,Tamla etc. BMP_01.BMP BMP_2.BMP BMP_021.BMP BMP_013.BMP
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I was considering buying the DVD Box set of this when it was re released but the price put me off.Luckily all the episodes have been released by the Channel 4 version of I player.Each episode looks at a different facet of music.Theres an episode where Alexis Korner goes down to the Ealing Jazz Club but its locked up and he can't get in.Some good interview footage with Bo Diddley and the mad Phil Spector....people ask me isn't it lonely living in this large mansion with all these different rooms...no...theres a toilet for company,a washbasin for company etc etc.He has "issues".Heres the link https://www.channel4.com/programmes/all-you-need-is-love/episode-guide/series-1/episode-10
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Think you are right. I've seen pictures of the stage with the piano and its in exactly the same position.Picture was taken in 69.I wonder if any of the crowd came back a few years later when the Allnighters started.Will have to try and dig out the Blues and Soul with Harlem Jonn in it who was deejaying northern years later.SWONS
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These three look like heavy dudes with their leather jackets and RCA white labels. Wonder what the record was?
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British group from Oldham with a great taste in cover versions. The LP is from 69 on Fontana and features Looking For A Fox (Clarence Carter),Come Back Girl (Jackie Edwards),Open The Door To Your Heart(Darrell),Down In The Valley (Solomon Burke),Back Driving Beat (sic) That Driving Beat (Willie Mitchell) etc etc.Did anyone on here see them and can someone clear up whether the northern dj from the seventies who called himself Harlem Jonn was actually in this group.I was expecting weedy cover versions but they have a full brass section and Hammond unlike the other album with a northern connection which is the O'Haras Playboys recorded live at the Nite Owl in Leicester October 17th 1967.
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It is the reissue.Total pink first issue,Island with (i) second issue, reissue yellow palm tree.Jackie Edwards I Feel So Bad is also on the red white Island original and yellow palm (reissue) but the yellow palm still goes for 40 to 50 quid.Got about 6 or 7 UK Jackie albums which I might post up in the collecting British section.Jackie was schizophrenic in his output with soul/pop/christian/bluebeat/reggae and M.O.R..Loads of labels as well Trojan/Island/Alladin/Fontana etc.Only got about 3 good tracks on Alladin,Prince and Princess and 1 Jackie Edwards track (Hush).His He'll Have to Go is a bit duff and an OK Owen Gray track.....over to Pete Smith re any other good Alladin stuff.Ive stuck a Jackie Edwards acetate in my last post on collecting British.
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Jesus....banged up.I have another track by her on President which is good.Did she do any other tracks in the UK?I've a foreign piccie of a little bit hurt with a crowd picture in hysterics.Had a picture of Julian in a fur coat fom an old NME.One band from the UK I would like info on is Harlem Johns Reshuffle. They were a northern mod band from 69....lp has covers of That Driving Beat and Looking For A Fox,
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Id assumed it was the Catacoombs because....it looks like a Catacoomb.Far too young myself.Can you identify this poor unfortunate soulie or the venue BMP_005.BMP BMP_005.BMP
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And me..also got Rainbow Chaser,What A Performance and a few others.Some great stuff on Uk Island, Sarolta L.OV.E (Version of Jackie Edwards) and some Wynder K Frog stuff.Wasn't he supposed to be Mick Weaver?
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Looks like a bloody cave. What was the dancefloor like stalagmites??.Ive a great picture of a soulie asleep and everyone has piled up beer cans on top of him. Give me a few mins. BMP_004.BMP BMP_013.BMP
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heres a taster...... BMP_4.BMP BMP_7.BMP BMP_017.BMP
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I was on it as well.Was it a dayer or niter.Whatever happened to Danny?.I'm sure Jim (R.I.P) was on it along with Liam, Paul Sadot and Oscar Romp.There was Danny Huff from Swindon as well who was a telephone salesman and record dealer.Nearly killed me and my girlfriend at the time when he thought he was on a dual carriageway and I had to remind him that was a bus coming towards us and he had better pull across!!. That was on the way to one of Adeys weekenders.Funnily enough the relationship with the girlfriend didn't last long after that.
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Vaguely remember someone organising a coach up from London for these niters.Pick up point was Charing Cross pier.
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What comes around.....the copy sold is coming to me. The organiser of The Rocket.SWONS
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In bed full of cold.Caught after coming out of the warmth of the xfire nighter and into a cold london morning.Anyway heres some more British including a signed Marvin acetate.
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I bought it...dont care if it was recorded last week, last year,last century. A great track and production.
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Theres an interesting video recorded interview with Ian Dewhirst on the front of his myspace page which he did in Toronto which covers how Almond and Soft Cell came about the record.Loads of other interesting stuff as well.
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Spencer Davis Group is an Australian pressing.Just done some UK Sue stuff to upload.
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Right thats the gauntlet thrown down.....will dig deeper and less of the outright Mod stuff.Ken has included ska in his list and northern novelty.I would be here forever if we could include ska although I have a few soul/ska tunes ie smooths and sorts. Just thought of where my Sue box is.............
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And even more British........
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Is Marcus Garvey allowed.??....shouldnt that be in the ska section.Whats that northern soul cash in record like Silverloaf????
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Pete I love that Paradox label.Do you know of anything else on it?.Just remembered a few records I have on the CMM label red and blue UK.Will dig them out. .
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Nicole Crouiselle-We got a Thing The Powerpack-Soul searchin Mob- I dig everything Chantelles-Something About You Johnny Gustafson Take Me For A Little While Flirtations Hold on to me babe and the orange thing is a Parmo a Middlesbrough delicacy.This is the tip of the iceberg in relation to my British stuff.I will dig some more out.
