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I was told by an oldtimer it started with copying the artists dancing....Major Lance and Sam And Dave's backdrops,Jackie Wilson's spins.Same as adopting the one leather black driving glove and the "northern soul fist".All American influenced.The acrobatics seem to have gone through different phases and styles from backdrops to handstands/russian rolls/ fast shuffling (Edwin Starr's Time.....wispy moustaches/wedges/peg trousers),knee drops and the balletic style on to throwing shapes Cleethorpes style (Oscar Romp still dances like this).The only acrobatics I see now are the Keb clones.Mr Sadot on here was known to bust a few moves.Remember him with hair at The Ritz hand springing (Caporeira style).Here's some footage from The Electric Ballroom London of the fusion dancers...not really northern style but a capsule of what dancing was going on outside the northern scene in 81 and there were a few people who did both especially in he north "Brothers in Jazz" who used to attend northern alldayers.

Northern Soul

Godoy Colbert-Baby I Like It Len Jewell-All My Good Good Lovin

Maybe there are deeper forces at work. Who started it...... People in crowds behave just like sheep, scientists claim, by blindly following one or two people who seem to know where they are going. Researchers at Leeds University believe their findings could have important applications, notably in the management of disasters. The team, led by Prof Jens Krause, conducted a series of experiments in which volunteers were told to walk randomly around a large hall without talking to each other. A select few were then given more detailed instructions. The results published today show that it takes a minority of just 5 per cent of what they called "informed individuals" to influence the direction of a crowd of a minimum of 200 people. The remaining herd of 95 per cent follow without realising it. "There are strong parallels with animal grouping behaviour," says Prof Krause, who reports the work with John Dyer in the Animal Behaviour Journal, with colleagues at the Universities of Oxford and Wales Bangor. "We've all been in situations where we get swept along by the crowd but what's interesting about this research is that our participants ended up making a consensus decision despite the fact that they weren't allowed to talk or gesture to one another. "In most cases the participants didn't realise they were being led by others." The work follows another study by Dr Simon Reader of Utrecht University that showed that most of us are happy to play follow-my-leader, even if we are trailing after someone who does not really know where they are going. "Even more striking, that study found that even when we are shown a faster route, we still prefer to stick with the old one and tell others to take the long road too. That discovery could have lethal implications when it comes to evacuating a building or ship in an emergency, when people would likely stick to the familiar evacuation route, even if slower than an alternative. It had to happen sometime.....it's what peoople in their fifties/sixties do.At least there was no "dad" thumb dancing.

Disagree......I know people that buy rare mint progressive albums purely as an investment.They have to be mint though.Never played and filed away.I know because i have sold them a few.Not sure about northern soul though but the top end items are getting more expensive and I assume people buy them for playing. I have this LP in mint condition with no cover...... can anyone help with a cover?????? https://www.popsike.com/THE-OPEN-MIND-st-RARE-ORIGINAL-UK-PSYCH-LP-1969-NM/250290459642.html

The outakes are a lot better especially the two lads at the end...one with a P Funk T shirt and the one in white trousers and braces.I'm sure the dancing on Out On The Floor (the BBC/ITV play was better as well..although I have lost that footage.

Massive in Erope apparently on the rare Okey scene Okey Keep The Faith

I will have an opinion on what i believe to be bad music.As I said Darrell Banks/Nurons/Ruby Andrews are all good records.Dolly Gillmore is terrible.

Anyone know when the term crossover started getting used?.A lot of the above tunes are mid tempo/down tempo northern end of the night style closing tunes.I wonder if it was a ploy by UK dealers to get rid of all that old dead stock.Darrell Banks and the Nurons aren't bad records.....but to my ears they have always been mid tempo northern.(Darrell Banks being an end of set record).Ruby Andrews/Darrell Banks/Ace Spectrum are the new 3 before 8.....should i say 3 before 11 (bar closing) and probably the precursors to a bit of okey cokeying hands together stuff.When did deejays stop digging for stompers/uptempo stuff and started plundering everyone elses genres...including mediocre mid tempo and dreary b sides/reggae for god sakes/mid sixties latin novelty pop/boogaloo/old Keb style deep funk etc I could go on.It seems northern soul is so diluted it is losing its identity.I hear the term "open minded" all the time on here.I'm not interested in having "my mind opened" to other styles of music at a northern do.I can go to mod clubs to listen to latin,go to JOJOs to hear funk/go to numerous clubs to hear reggae/listen to my tapes for bad b sides.I'm not purely into oldies either before that gets slung at me....oldies and great uptempo new ones are what i want to hear but it seems a lot of deejays are too busy searching out "open minded" other styles of music.

I'm waiting for The Jewels b side to get spins

Other genres Beat ballads Reggae Island soul Popcorn Giffer Funky as in keb style funk Funky as in northern style funk baby boy Rare soul the term upfront is often used Modern not modern ie seventies mecca style Upfront modern new releases New breed r and b Oh and not forgetting the okey cokey

Does anyone remember buying stuff like this blind. Played once then into the crap pile.I just want good records.Good enough to be played in s main room.I collect other forms of music and I have the same ethos there.Everything should pass the main room test unless you are trying to fill that c90 tape.

Have seem it on here for 350 an old he who should not be named spin

A lot of the stuff here sounds like B sides of northern records or the stuff that used to get thrown into soul packs or tapeswappers sounds.....fast forward.That Dolly Gillmore record is taking things down to a new level.....messy production,no direction and no tune.Can you blame the top 500 oldies brigade for not broadening their horizons if this is what they are subjected to when they go out.

Got mine from Kev Roberts....paid about £25 I think last year.Never know he might have a box of them

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Edited and on a seven I think this would get plays out.I prefer the original take Ian.Think I will pester his management.

The video to it

It was an impromptu PA by him....priceless when everyone sang back to him aint no need for sunlight....aint no need for moonlight etc.Will check the remix.Amazing record IMHO.

This took the roof off at the Dingwalls reunion on Sunday especially when Gregory got up to sing it.........probably a bit too jazzy for the soul scene unless there was an edit.I know i would prefer it to remixes of double barrel.What do you think.

You get real I have just come back from a Dingwalls reunion...heavy jazz/jazz funk dancing,spinning,knee drops,russian rolls.The whole lot.Not a drop of talc in sight.It's all about balance and practice.Only one spilt drink.I've done floors from the Kings Hall/Ritz/100 Club/Morecambe...etc etc.Never needed talc just a good pair of leather soled shoes a lot of practice and good balance.

Are you saying he is doing a Bo Duddley

No there isn't any talc.No I wasn't there....I have met the Nicholas Brothers when they came over from the US(about 89) and did a talk at the Barbican.Brothers In Jazz (UK Dance troupe are big fans).I would not be so stupid to ask them if they used talc.How come other dancing scenes don't use talc..Lindyhoppers/jivvers/rock'n roll.It's just one of the naff bits that everyone thinks they need (in the manual).I have actually slopped water on a floor to get rid of talc.Anyway off to the Dingwalls reunion today.....ton's of great dancers, bumpy floor,spinners,splits,knee drops....and not a bit of talc in sight.

Got the Levi Jackson issue.....Mr King tried a myriad of other styles....I know because I have bought nearly every other release by him hoping that there would be another "Beautiful Day" style track...as if this track wasn't trodden.Anyway Life Child (Polydor) and Don't be a Sinner (Columbia)aint too bad.Unfortunately he will be always be remembered for She Wears My Ring.A bit Like Long John Baldry with Le Those Heartaches Begin.

Reminds me in parts of this track...............