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I'm sure a large collective mass danced to Joe 90 at some point....I think in northern soul terms its called handbaghysteria.

I don't mind The Flasher....but Tim Tam! It seems like the cokies ie The Jean Genie brigade have taken a particular liking for a certain type of sound the easy dancing seventies or cheesy house beat.I've seen it ...the deejay has played well known uptempo sixties oldies...empty floor.He brings out a few cokey tunes When We Get there and Bob Sinclair and the cokeys are on it!

Ah I stand corrected Ian...its when its subjected to us at northern nights I get miffed.Can we have an okey okey cokey handbaggers thread..my suggestions Soul In The Sun...House For Sale...Bobby Womack Home Is Where The Heart Is...Ace Spectrum...and Bob Sinclair.Maybe a 3 before bed.

So if its only about bodies on dancefloors why not play Kylies version of Time Will Pass You By....I'm sure it will fill the floor.Bob Sinclair is cheesy okey cokey music for Saturday night discos.This is denying thousand of great sixties and seventies records airtime.I would rather hear Gregory Porters 1960 What being played..

Wiganer have you got any dated playlists as these would probably go a long way to working out how long a records shelf life was.I would be interested in the Frank Wilson especially as Cecil Washington seems to be more of a Wigan Classic than Wilson.

Wasn't it played as it segued well into Johnny Jones Purple Haze...

That Bitburg is nice stuff...I can only remember What It Is...Twinkle Little Star Bottom And Company King Tutt Tavasco and Sparkels...

So Russ played it first at Wigan so it must have been early Casino.When was it first reprod or bootlegged and was it ever dropped from the playlist.?

John Bishop trio is an eighties mod oldie originally played off the US Tangerine lp very guitar and organ based.

Im supposing that these got plays because they were found in the UK.:Not sure Rotary Connection was a UK though.I was told by a certain Jack Wardle that he was selling the Chase Side Shoot Up covered up at Wigan as it was a recent UK release on BBC records.It is interesting that the 3 before 8 had such a long lifespan.What was the score with Dean Parish Im On My Way as that got a release on Jonathan Kings UK label....why wasnt it dropped then when reissued or was it so big by then that the policy of dropping reissued or booted 45s stopped.Im still intrigued by Frank Wilson and its actual lifespan at The Casino from Russ getting the acetate from Soussan....the In copies of Eddie Foster landing on the shores and the record being dropped from the playlist.From the comment earlier about Cecil Washington being covered up for 2 years that record seemed to have a longer lifespan and would have been played more than Frank Wilson.How about this one.I heard this in Germany on Saturday.

What about this one....the comments below the track state massive at The Casino....was it really??? Im not aware of a boot of it so correct me if im wrong.I think this was a Russ spin....massive?? for how long??

So Russ got the acetate from Simon Soussan............played it for a few weeks and the errrr bootlegger wanted to get the InEddie Foster copy over straight away to earn a few dollars.Once it was on sale in the record bar it was dropped...So nearlyover a months life for Frank Wilson!!

How long did these 2 last then as cover ups and was Frank Wilson ever dropped from the playlist .Im assuming that there must have been some form of gentlemans agreement with the importers and the deejays as to when to flood the market.The deejay wanting a bit of life for the record and the importer wanting cash for the records. (Not the 2 quoted as they were not around in quantity)

So a lifespan of about 8 weeks then.So the bootleggers were a major factor in the lifespan of a record as well as importers and dancefloor reaction.No wonder the deejays covered up records.If a record was to have legs...it had to be covered up....the importers not to offload a few hundred copies.....or someone pressing hundreds of copies or finding out its identity.I wonder what record had the longest covered up time there until it was uncovered.

I was speaking to Russ W over a year ago about the phenomenal turnover of records at Wigan Casino and if something wasnt taken to instantly then it was dropped.He quoted John Bowie-Youre Gonna Miss A Good Thing........amazing record but it just didnt work.Dropped after 2 weeks.Tobi Legend-Time Will pass you by...Russ started playing I Can Take It Like A Man after Time ,,,,,bombed.I bought it and think its an amzing record.Im finding that Im buying more and more of these records that fell through the cracks.The records that werent instant there seem to be better than a lot of supposed new discoveries imho.John Bowie I asssociate with the 80s.I also associate The Chandlers with the 80s another one Russ said didnt take off as it wasnt instant enough and had a tricky timechange.Come on forgotten Wigan soul sounds that fell through the cracks or are lauded as 80s 90s classics...when in fact they were failed Wigan spins.

Spot on.....there's hundreds of deejays out there and if you are lucky and priveliged to be asked to deejay get there early...mentally note records played...if youre late ask the other deejays what the have played.I usually carry a 100 box and have a few exclusives....just got an alt cut of Ray Charles-I Don't Need No Doctor..lets be realistic...oldies events are the majority of events and people like what they know..but there's thousands of oldies out there...there is no excuse unless youre breaking an exclusive (but you should be the only one with it!!).Different back in the day when there was only three copies in the country and people travelled to hear records and there was a stranglehold from the US to dealer in the UK to top deejay so the only way was to go to the venue...and get the record when booted and then the top deejay will have moved on to the next one.I like the story about Butch running over to a dj playing one of his exclusives and then ripping it off the decks.

Its not really on duplicating obvious oldies in the same night... Show some respect to the crowd and promoter and get there early.If you get there late ask the previous djto flick through the records he played and make a mental note and cross your fingers.Last year I heard the Montclairs Hey You twice on the same night...someone wasn't listening.

In.sure Georgie Fame is lp only on Sweet Things.

I will be at Aachen next week...any chance of a shuffle through your rare memory sticks....got some rare downloads from soundcloud to trade.

Part of a northern soul night to me is jabbering away with people about records...finding them...buying them...who is playing what..what label did that come out on...oh he's playing that one...I've never heard that one in years.Where did you get that from..the US.You just don't get that at CD gigs...its rare this one....found it in HMV rack 5.I do find it funny that the young Europeans have taken the collecting side of it on lock stock and barrel.I'm waiting for the first Cd playlist posted up.

Mine came in a paper picture cover....will have to dig it out.

I still do it....Dave Evison said he hadn't seen it done for years and loved it.Loved those old Blues And Soul adverts...gives a bit of a flavour of the event.

Saw him and Greg Fay about 5 months ago...he seems fine.

Ive had some funny moments flyering............an organiser of another event at another event picked one up once and shouted you can't have an oldies event in london...and then proceeded to say we would have let you do an event if you asked....???/ I will spare his blushes.At a small cellar bar I had someone run around after me picking them up and screwing them up(he wasn't even the organiser of the event!)...I had hundreds so he was on to a loser.I don't care who flyers my events as the events I run are musically different to most southern run events.I have had flyers mailed to me and put them out on the door.Some of the promoter antics remind me of this film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_tcza_oxdE

Ive got colour film footage of her singing from a blaxploitation film somewhere....think the film is Dolemite.