Oh well may as well stick me sixpence worth in.... Jazz-funk as a music was disco made by jazz musicians unable to pay the rent playing jazz in the 1970's. Obviously, having the chops, these did make rather more complicated disco records which appealed to the fancy movers and fleet of foot on the contemporary black music club scene in the UK. It must be remembered, here at the heart of northern soul fandom, that new release black American music has always been popular in the UK ; especially in urban areas. Jazz-funk as a term pretty much vanished by 1982 as its aficionados annexed themselves from the mainstream in upstairs rooms and specialist nights with a pure jazz dance policy. Rare Groove, a mainly London based fashion driven club thing in the 1980's, played forgotten seventies 45's overwhelmingly of the funky variety from James Brown but not exclusively. Certainly not as rare as northern records but getting on for ten years or more old so did need finding I remember on a rather extended night out in London we ended up, via a private party at the RCA playing northern [Keb 'even oldies were newies once!'] and a Kalima gig at the Blue note, at the Cat In the Hat where a slightly squiffy Charles Reese, being a serious Mecca boy, rather pissed off the DJ's by loudly naming every record they played. Two-Step, as stated before, shebeen soul, pilfered and refined by us naughty northerners. Some of the really big tracks were all groove and crap vocals so some refining was required. Rod mentioned Victor who did appear hunched over the crates on Rod and Dave's stall and in Expansions. In the shop he was also looking for new indie releases fresh from Soul Bowl as well as the deletions, oldies, etc. I remember buying 'Hutson1' from Rod and Dave for £3 and playing 'lucky fellow' in Manchester, while Richards Mum picked one up from a revolving LP rack [remember those?] in the village post office, for a similar amount, and at almost exactly the same time, and he choosing 'all because of you' to play at The Half-Way House etc. Aaah! Such innocent times. All these trends crossed paths, bumped into each other, referenced and stole from each other....cultural life is never as simple as the as labels put on it would have it. By the mid 80's you've got cross-over, the beginnings of really rare funk being played, and the increasing influence of various styles of Latin music influencing various scenes including northern. The story goes on and on... dean