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    Never Had It So Good

    in All About the SOUL

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    I think many people with their own personal musical taste axes to grind (ie Deep/Slow soul fans) are making points that are irrelevant to the original question/post which is specifically talking about music AT VENUES on the (Northern) Soul scene.

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    Never Had It So Good

    in All About the SOUL

    Posted · Edited by DaveNPete

    I think every generation must enjoy THEIR time on the scene.

     

    When I started going (being a mere pup of 50 - after the Casino closed) I was constantly lectured how it 'wasn't how it used to be' and that all the best records had been found etc etc etc. Of course now the early-mid 80s are seen as a golden era musically (frankly in my view partly down to the fact that the scene HAD shrunk significantly - meaning you were into Northern for the love of Soul and NOT because all your mates went - 90% of the reason the scene got back on track IMO).

     

    I know that as an old Wheel goer, Torch and VaVa fanatic Pete has a similar 'downhill in a big way' view of the the Casino post-75 - yet of course he missed some of the greatest spins ever played their in switching totally to the Mecca, Angels, The Warehouse etc in the late 70s.

     

    It used to annoy me to be lectured about 'the good old days' - sure the scene MAY have been a gazillion times better in 19XX - but I had no opportunity to experience it back then, so in practice it just becomes sour grapes on the part of the lecturer.

     

    Anyway Bazza's also made an important point - if you've not heard a record before it's new and fresh TO YOU - even if it's been hammered to hell historically. I remember my old partner in crime Wayne Pallet actually hearing Out On The Floor at a nighter for the first time at the Unicorn and thinking it was tremendous in an allnighter (he knew it of course but ironically because it was 'played out' he'd been going weekly for three years before he heard it spun between 12 and 8).

     

    I would say I think that totally new 60s discoveries that genuinely measure up (and I DO have an issue with second rate sounds being played simply because they're either unknown or very rare) are getting damn thin on the ground - so surely it's time to start ressurecting genuinely forgotten oldies (though as ever SO many 'oldies' DJs stick to the lame 100 same old same oles - mainly I suspect because they are too feckless, inept at building a balanced spot and lacking in knowledge to know-of and how-to spin anything else) - I have loads of 'proper' Northern records I've never heard played in the 33 years I've been going (except by me of course) and I'm sure I'm not alone in this.

     

    Dave

     

    PS Bazza - J&B Purify's Wheel biggie 'Let Love Come Between Us' is the best by them IMO.

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    Bootleg The Origins ?

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    In 1969 I had Hole In The Wall/Hold On I'm Coming pressed onto a single of the album along with Jackie Wilson   Somebody Up There Like You /You Can Count On Me .The main reason was I didn't want to carry LPs to DJ with and a few friends wanted copies or else I would have had just had an EMI disc cut for myself.

    I had 20 copies of each with white label, that was the minimum that I could manage to get sold them for £1 each .

    Couldn't remember which one it was and out of politeness didn't name you.

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    Dumb Question- Sound Of 45's

    in Look At Your Box

    Posted · Edited by DaveNPete

    It's an old argument and everyone will have heard the story of the decca picnic player in the Boardroom at Motown on which they tested acetates to hear how their buyers would consume the recordings.

     

    Analogue at its best will by definition be better than digital because it is a continuous stream of information as opposed to a string of snapshots of the sound (no matter how frequent they are - think real photograph versus newsprint). When you get to youtube etc they're further compressed - meaning there are even fewer samples and lower definition still.

     

    In addition CDs tend to be mastered to match their strong points - ie they're trebly because it makes em sound crisper and more 'impressive'  compared to what I guess the industry looks upon as the wooliness of vinyl - which of course we see as atmosphere and character - with proper bass (for instance you were never MEANT to here the chains crisply and identifiably as 'chains' in Nowhere to Run as you do on the CD - they're part of the intentionally created 'soundscape' of the recording, so that the CD mastering has fundamentally changed the character of the track from what was intended).

     

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    Stopping Buying / Selling Up

    in All About the SOUL

    Posted · Edited by DaveNPete

    stopped collecting Northern about 18mnths ago, and decided to start thinning my collection, not just the northern and 7 inches but every genre. Spending the money on bicycles now, LOL. I still cant stop buying though, at least the tunes i'm purchasing ( 8ts and  9ts house and garage) are afforable right now, for the average guy NS is frustratingly expensive. I can buy  a stack of 12's for £30, where would that get me with 6ts northern?

    Pushbikes? That's the Anton factor - sold another chunk of mine off early this year - but still have a about 500 that I just CAN'T sell - plus a load that ain't worth selling.

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    Tonite - Northern Soul Bbc Living For The Weekend

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    Posted · Edited by DaveNPete

    Think it was surprisingly good - reasonable music selection for the uniniciated (though Sugar Pie... was a bit of a bum steer, they'd have been much better concentrating on Just A Little Misunderstanding which we got a smattering of just before it), all the right people (though some other punters would have been nice and given a wider perspective perhaps - whilst the DJs gave authority, it made it sound to much like some kind of commercial disco movement, specially with the excessive amount of time given to TB). Ian was very good, concise, informative and contrite - good lad.

     

    No mention of collecting though and nothing about the 'reset' to proper soul of the very end of Wigan and the 80s/90s and at least the 100 Club and Stafford should've had a mention and of course our wonderful Mr Croasdell.

     

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    Frank Wilson Framed Photo With Record

    in All About the SOUL

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    Seriously...

     

    Northern Soul Key Rack / Holder

    Wigan Casino

     

    DON'T GO LOOKING FOR YOUR KEYS

    HANG THEM ON A SMART NORTHERN SOUL KEY RACK

     

    Depicting the all time geat venue Wigan Casino

    KEEP THE FAITH

    The Key Rack / Holder is made from wood board and measures approximately 25cm x 10cm x 1.5cm,

    it has two key way holes in the back for hanging (see picture) and four brass hooks for hanging your keys.

    Classic Northern Soul Key Rack

    WIGAN CASINO

    YOU'LL ALWAYS KNOW WHERE YOUR KEYS ARE WITH THIS

    CLASSIC NORTHERN SOUL KEY RACK

     

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Northern-Soul-Key-Rack-Holder-Wigan-Casino-Tamla-Motown-Lambretta-Vespa/200787418255?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D22472%26meid%3D7018303832571685179%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D9725%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D191173351018

    Outragious - I want one.

     

    Do you think they'll do me a special Russ Winstanley toilet brush.

     

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