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  1. Having found the first ever known copy of The Moments 'Baby I want you' on Hog Records in 1993 in a $1 bin at Cappy's Records in Detroit, I did some research into who they actually were. Andy Rix and Rob Thomas found the first acetate but there were no label details on it.Nothing to do with the Detroit group of the same name or the later Stang collection but the Mizell Brothers - Fonce and Larry and Freddie Perren. Larry wrote it. (He would later go on to become a part of The Corporation that wrote many hits for the Jackson 5 among others) Freddie Perren produced it.
  2. Although Motown always credit it to Tommy Good, he always maintains that it is NOT him. Doesn't remember recording it either. Probably a white guy though - favourite is Deke Richards. Best version IMHO is by the guy who wrote it - Ivy Jo Hunter.
  3. Anyone got a cheap pressing of the High Keys 'Living a lie' in decent nick for sale or trade? Also looking for that Milton Wright thing on Satiron. Many thanks
  4. Same backing is used on Invitations 'Handwriting on the wall'
  5. Couple more that I forgot to include! APRIL STEVENS 'Wanting you' UK YELLOW MGM.Ex+ £200 DEON JACKSON 'That's what you do to me' Carla White demo. Ex £85.
  6. Thanks Paul. Glad to know people are enjoying the articles - more to come if Mike will indulge me! Best Rob
  7. The following are for sale; SINGLES. TOBI LARK 'Sweep it out in the shed' Topper.Mint £500 EJ & ECHOES 'You're gonna hurt' Diamond Jim Ex. £280. KETTY LESTER 'Some things are better left unsaid' RCA Mint- £80 PHILIP MITCHELL 'I'm so happy' Atlantic. Ex- £160 YVONNE VERNEE 'It's been a long time' SONBERT White Demo Ex. £200. GINO WASHINGTON 'Girl here I am' Atac Ex. £250 COLLINS & COLLINS 'Top of the stairs' A&M Ex. £200 TOMMY GOOD 'Baby I miss you' Gordy Mint- £90. SPYDERS 'I can take care of myself' (Same as Gene Chandler) Golden State M. £70 ALBUMS. CHRIS BARTLEY 'Sweetest thing this side of heaven' VANDO Ex/Ex £45 JACKIE LEE 'The duck' Mirwood Ex/Ex £25 PATTI DREW 'Tell him' (Inc.'Stop & listen' 'Can't shake it loose') Capitol Ex/Ex £35 WILLIE HUTCH 'Soul portrait' (Inc. 'Lucky to be loved by you') RCA STILL SEALED £65 ROY HAMILTON 'The impossible dream' (Inc.'Reach out for me') RCA Ex/Ex TINA MASON 'Something Wonderful' Capitol Ex/Ex £225 Please pm me.
  8. Visiting Detroit Part 7 Holidaying in Detroit is probably not everyone’s idea of an ideal vacation. Though the weather is scorching in the summer, there are no beaches or swimming facilities to speak of. No English pubs serving Watney... View full article
  9. Visiting Detroit Part 7 Holidaying in Detroit is probably not everyone’s idea of an ideal vacation. Though the weather is scorching in the summer, there are no beaches or swimming facilities to speak of. No English pubs serving Watney’s Red Barrel. No ‘Full English breakfasts with all the trimmings’ and no Sky TV showing football at all hours of the day and night. In fact, you’ll be lucky to even find out the scores. You can visit ancient relics, although I’m sure they wouldn’t take kindly to be referred to in quite those terms, see where many of the recordings were made and have a sporting chance of finding that precious vinyl, if, of course, your interests lie in these areas. Probably not the kind of trip to take the wife and kids on — unless you’ve managed to brainwash them to the extent that they share your passion, and this is extremely unlikely. Travelling to America by air from anywhere in Europe will usually take a minimum of seven hours, owing to the headwinds that typically slow progress on the outbound journey. It will be shorter coming back for exactly the same reason. Flying is one of the most tedious, frustrating and mind numbing activities we are forced to endure in our modern world. And it is not enhanced by the moronic range of films available that are targeted at the four children on the flight who may actually understand and enjoy them. Add to this the constant and continuous high pitch screaming and wailing of the inevitable baby (ies) in the next row (doesn’t anyone use dummies anymore?) and the old man, in close proximity, who periodically insists on moving the phlegm in the back of his throat to the nasal cavity in the centre of his head with that awful sound that resembles a ship leaving port, and you have abject misery. The feeling of elation as you actually leave the aircraft, not forgetting to, hypocritically, thank the flight staff for orchestrating this brief visit to hell, is a unique experience. Like many airports around the world, Detroit Metro is at least 20 miles from the city. A hire car is essential and should be booked, and prepaid, from home.... note from the soul source team - sorry but all Robs non-current articles are now clipped due to a future book release - watch out for news of that!
  10. Harry Have you considered 'SoleTrain' or perhaps 'Soul Trane' or even 'Soulo Train' for our Hispanic cousins? Just a thought.
  11. What a brilliant piece about a fantastic group. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks Mike.
  12. Frank Bryant (co writer of song) told me that they would frequently record different versions of songs, usually depending on what 'Mr.' Wingate thought when he heard them. I know that the first version of 'Real humdinger' had strings on it and a different background vocal and was longer, with another 'bridge break' in the latter half. It had to be completely re recorded because Wingate thought it was 'too busy'. The same rhythm track was used however. This could easily be the case with 'Deeper in love'. A few vinyl copies of the alternate 'Humdinger' exist. Hope this is helpful.
  13. As a (relatively) proud Englishman, I must take exception to one specific part of the original thread. The people referred to as 'tyre kickers' are most definitely 'ARSEholes' not 'ASSholes'. I note that the correct English use and spelling of 'tyre' (as opposed to the American 'tire')is in operation. It surely follows that the English 'Arse' should take preference over the more inferior American 'ass'. Or an I talking out of at least one of them?!
  14. Rob Moss delivers his view on the recently broadcast BBC4 TV programme Motor Citys Burning - Detroit from Motown to the Stooges I love Detroit — ‘Motor City’s Burning’ The title sounded fantastic. ‘Motor City’s Burning’ — ‘A documentary looking at how, during the 1960s, the blue collar Midwestern city of Detroit became home to a musical revolution that captured the sound of a nation in upheaval’ and ‘Detroit from Motown to the Stooges’ to quote the BBC’s own promotional blurb. Surely this would be a detailed examination of the circumstances that created one of the most influential musical styles in popular music — ‘The Motown Sound’? The title implied that some scrutiny of the causes and effects of the 1967 Detroit riots would feature in the programme too. And wouldn’t the BBC, an institutional universally respected and admired, with a substantial budget provided by the British taxpayer, be able to gain access to unique footage, interviews and other journalistic extras that would create a truly ground breaking, and long overdue, assessment of an essential era in a unique age? Adherents to the genre could almost predict the content. A brief history of Detroit, tracing its initial role as a fur trading settlement in the 18th century to the arrival of Henry Ford at the beginning of the 20th century and the creation of the automobile industry, the important role the city played in the escape of slaves from the South during the 19th century, the strained race relations that dogged life in the city throughout most of the 20th century as huge numbers of black families migrated north, and the affluence of the post war period, culminating in the 1960s, that spawned a generation of superbly talented and creative people in and around Detroit. This would be followed by an assessment of the social and cultural landscape around the city in the 1950s, and how this impacted on Berry Gordy Jnr. A brief description of Gordy’s family background, writing career and musical grounding would provide an insight into how he set up his business operation, and, perhaps more importantly, who was involved in the earliest recording sessions and organizational structures he put in place... note from the soul source team - sorry but all Robs non-current articles are now clipped due to a future book release - watch out for news of that! BBC Blurb Documentary looking at how Detroit became home to a musical revolution that captured the sound of a nation in upheaval. In the early 60s, Motown transcended Detroit's inner city to take black music to a white audience, whilst in the late 60s suburban kids like the MC5 and the Stooges descended into the black inner city to create revolutionary rock expressing the rage of young white America. With contributions from Iggy Pop, Alice Cooper, George Clinton, Martha Reeves, John Sinclair and the MC5. Fri 7 Mar 2008 22:00hrs https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b009372j
  15. Rob Moss delivers his view on the recently broadcast BBC4 TV programme Motor Citys Burning - Detroit from Motown to the Stooges Tap to view this Soul Source News/Article in full
  16. Jack Ashford told me that it WAS submitted to the Bond people and made it to the shortlist only to lose out in the end. He also said that they entered some kind of open competition to write a theme song for the film and that there was a condition that it should have that familiar refrain in it to make it recognisable.
  17. No, but he did say what a great job Levi had done on the song. I wonder if Motown will ever release it. On past form. they probably don't even know they've got it!!
  18. Al Kent told me that Levi and The Tops recorded the song.
  19. The latest in the Visiting Detroit series - Rob Moss expands things with a visit to Memphis making up part 6 of this great series of soul articlesIn many ways, Detroit and Memphis have little in common. Historically and geographically, they were at... View full article
  20. The latest in the Visiting Detroit series - Rob Moss expands things with a visit to Memphis making up part 6 of this great series of soul articles In many ways, Detroit and Memphis have little in common. Historically and geographically, they were at either end of the slave trade — Memphis became the main ‘distribution centre’ for the forced African labour brought in to the southern US States to service the cotton industry, amongst others, whereas Detroit was the final stop in the north for those escaping the horror and degradation of the practice, on their way to freedom in Canada. Tennessee is essentially a rural State. By the 1950s Memphis had become the world’s largest market for spot cotton, hardwood lumber and mules (!). Detroit, and other smaller centres in Michigan, on the other hand, was exclusively industrial, boasting the largest and most powerful automobile industry in the world. Throughout the twentieth century huge numbers of southern blacks migrated north in search of employment and a better life, eager to escape the rampant racism and segregation that existed in the South. From as far back as the nineteenth century, Memphis fostered the musical and artistic expressions of its large black population in the form of Gospel, Blues, Jazz, Rhythm & Blues and Soul and became world renown for the innovators and the innovation it produced. But, many musicians joined the exodus north too, so it is not surprising that those same stylings surfaced in northern cities, albeit in somewhat convoluted or reconstituted forms. As the two streams developed, they each reflected the cultural, political and social environment in which they were created. If Detroit was politically liberal and progressive, Memphis was conservative and reactionary. Whereas Detroit was urbane and cosmopolitan, Memphis was rudimentary and puritanical. Detroit created ‘The Motown Sound’. Memphis gave us ‘Sweet soul music’. This creative divergence reached its zenith in the 1960s when both cities combined to impose their own, quite different, interpretations of black musical expression on the world... note from the soul source team - sorry but all Robs non-current articles are now clipped due to a future book release - watch out for news of that!
  21. the sleeve notes from the cd from Rob Moss Tap to view this Soul Source News/Article in full
  22. Around 2004 I was running a website for Melvin Davis . It was set up to promote his short Uk tour and also a cd that had been released by Hayley Records. Am sure that anyone who met him and his son when they were over would agree with me when I say that he is a great genuine guy. So when Rob Moss asked if wanted to use the sleeve notes for this section it was a no brainer. The sleeve notes are from the cd entitled Melvin Davis - His Greatest Recordings and though released in 2004 I think it is still availble, either via the usual outlets or indeed thru the Hayley website. Also featured is a radio interview that is up in the refosoul radio section (see end for link), from the same Uk visit, it features both Melvin and his son being interviewed by Dean Anderson on his Boundary Sound Radio show.and is well worth a listen. The latest news on Melvin from Rob W, is that he may be visiting these shores again soon, and recently had some good news as a cover version of "Chains of Love " was featured in an award winning film, which should mean that some well deserved royalties will be winging their way to both Melvin and also JJ Barnes. Anyway back to the main thrust, here's the sleeve notes from the cd from Rob Moss which as you can read the depth and background do justify renaming from "sleeve notes" to the Melvin Davis - His Story... Melvin Davis - His Story By Rob Moss Melvin Davis is one of the most gifted individuals to emerge from the Detroit music scene of the early 1960’s. His talents are prestigious, encompassing almost every aspect of the recording and performing process, and directly contributing to the wealth of material that came out of the city in the last five decades. From his first recording for the tiny Jackpot label in 1961, as a teenager, to the latest collection ‘Melvin Davis — His Greatest Recordings’, the quality and consistency of Melvin Davis’ music is of the very highest standard. Melvin Davis was part of a generation of Detroit musicians and performers who made an indelible impression on the development of music in America, throughout the latter part of the twentieth century, and well into the new millennium. Like many of his contempories, Davis grew up steeped in the jazz, blues and R&B stylings that the city had become famous for in the 1940s and 1950s. By 1960 several local artists had gained national prominence, among them Jackie Wilson and Marv Johnson, and Berry Gordy's fledgling Motown set up was beginning to establish itself as a successful and lucrative operation. Many local entrepreneurs saw an opportunity to emulate Gordy's success, and scores of small record labels emerged, eager to audition and record the huge pool of musical talent that abounded. Melvin Davis’ love for music grew and developed throughout his childhood and early adolescence — by his late teens the natural talent he possessed had been transformed into a tangible musical output. “I always had my own band, even from the early days. There were lots of guys who wanted to perform when we were young. Not all of them could cut it though.” Davis recalled in a 2003 interview. As the leader of his own musical group, The Jaywalkers, he had not only mastered keyboards and guitar, but had become something of a principal on his preferred instrument, the drums. The line up of The Jaywalkers gives a fascinating insight into the depth of talent that existed in Detroit at that time — Leroy Emmanuel, Cornelius Grant (who would late become The Temptations’ musical director), Clyde Wilson ( Steve Mancha), Tony Newton (latterly a Motown staff bassist and 8th Day member) and vocalist David Ruffin would all treasure the invaluable experience they gained in the group during those early days. “We had so much fun back then. We would squeeze all of us and all of our instruments into my station wagon and we’d go and play somewhere. In town or around the State. We would play all over.” Enduring friendships were developed as The Jaywalkers played at almost every ski lodge, local dance hall and college campus throughout rural and urban Michigan, particularly between Davis, Wilson and Ruffin. “They used to call us the ‘Three Amigos’ ‘cause we were so tight. We did everything together. We used to share the driving but had to ban David in the end. He was a crazy driver. Two separate times he drove into a snow bank!” note from the soul source team - sorry but all Robs non-current articles are now clipped due to a future book release - watch out for news of that!
  23. Soul Supermarket has a mint one. Best Rob
  24. People who reside in the largest city, or the capital, of a country seem to have a pompous air of superiority and an apparent belief that they are, in some way, better than their fellow citizens. This is certainly true in Britain, where most Londoners... Tap to view this Soul Source News/Article in full
  25. People who reside in the largest city, or the capital, of a country seem to have a pompous air of superiority and an apparent belief that they are, in some way, better than their fellow citizens. This is certainly true in Britain, where most Londoners appear to believe that they are life’s leaders — the special, ‘chosen’ ones who were sent to civilize and refine the rest of us. How else could the BBC ‘Soul Britania’ television series manage to attribute the entire development of black music in our country to the people and places in the capital? In America, people from New York and Los Angeles hold this ominous distinction, and in Canada it is undoubtedly the residents of Toronto who strut around in a state of bloated haughtiness and self-importance; thus prompting the following witticism. Question. How many people from (insert name of large city) does it take to screw in a light bulb? Answer. One — they hold the bulb and the world revolves around them. A similar philosophy tends to exist in the music industry, although today, all forms of competition from independent companies has been extinguished as the few corporate ‘giants’ have all major markets safely dominated, and control is firmly centred in Los Angeles. It wasn’t always so however. At the dawn of modern musical development, in the 1950s, when mass consumption of recorded works began, it was possible for small independent companies to have a shot at the big time. One of the largest niche markets nationally has always been the indigenous black population, and thousands of small independents emerged to exploit the financial potential contained therein. Labels like Atlantic Records in New York, Chess in Chicago, Duke/Peacock in Houston and King in Cincinnati were early pacesetters. ... note from the soul source team - sorry but all Robs non-current articles are now clipped due to a future book release - watch out for news of that!


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