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  1. Following are for sale in UK pounds. PayPal OK (gift) Royal Mail Special Delivery insured (UK) Contact for overseas rates. All photos and sound files are from actual records. Unique BARRINO BROTHERS 10" acetate 'I shall not be moved' (Longer version 3:02) 250 DOBIE GRAY Out on the floor REO (Canadian) 275 EDWARD HAMILTON I'm gonna love you b/w Call me UNITED SOUND 7" acetate. No.1 master ONE OFF 500 Unique MOTOWN 7" acetate BAND TRACK Come on and see me b/w Misery makes its home in my heart 350 SOLD VALENTINOS Sweeter than the day before CHESS White Demo. 250 Valentinos.mp3
  2. Following are for sale in UK pounds. Sound flies and photos are from the actual records. PayPal OK (Gift) Postage Royal Mail Special Delivery (UK) Overseas rates given individually. MONIQUE If you love me (show me) b/w Never let me go MAURCI 750 SOLD Monique.mp3 Unreleased ELOISE LAWS Invictus 10" ACETATE Baby doll 550 Baby doll.mp3 TEMPOS Lonely one RILEY'S 400 Lonely one.mp3 BETTY LLOYD I'm catching on BSC 550 SOLD Betty Lloyd.mp3 EDDIE HILL Nothing sweeter (than you girl) M-S 300 Nothing sweeter.mp3 MIKKI FARROW Set my heart at ease b/w Could it be KARATE 900 Mikki F.mp3
  3. A look at the Pied Piper setup via interviews and more from Rob Moss Tap to view this Soul Source News/Article in full
  4. In a radio interview with Richard Searling from Memphis, Tennessee in 2000, Jack Ashford said the following with regard to the conclusion and closure of Pied Piper Productions “ Gerard Purcell — he was the person that got us into RCA, was putting pressure on Shelley (he didn’t like Shelley) cause he wanted to get Mike and I. So he figured if he got rid of Shelley then it would be easier to deal with us, but we saw that coming and so we couldn’t convince Shelley to stay — so Shelley bowed out. Mike said ‘If Shelley isn’t going to be in it I don’t want to be in it.’ So Mike went his way and I’m gonna form Just Productions.” This statement is puzzling to comprehend, partly because it takes no account of the actual chronological events that preceded the company’s demise, but mainly because it bears no resemblance to the truth of the matter. Mike Terry had ceased working with Jack Ashford and Shelley Haims for a considerable time before the operation was wound up in late 1967. note from the soul source team - sorry but all Robs non-current articles are now clipped due to a future book release - watch out for news of that! comments posted under old system Eddie HubbardJul 30 2013 09:26 PM Very interesting article Rob , and stunning photos ......... Like Top Quote Edit Hide Delete Report AGENTSMITH photo Getting spins again AGENTSMITHJul 30 2013 09:34 PM compelling, fascinating, intriguing.....unequivocally gripping, rob moss once again delivers an eye opening statement that presents facts, hitherto unknown to the masses and exposes the somewhat distorted work ethics of some of detroit's most influential songwriters & producers, their strained relationships and their double dealings.the history of the music that dominates our scene is all the more of a colourful expose' thanks to rob's attention to detail and, as always, furnished with glorious monotones of northern soul's iconic glitteratti. for rob's painstaking efforts, we owe him so much. Jerry Hipkiss and jimmy mack like Like Top Quote Edit Hide Delete Report Wheel city1 photo Second Issue Wheel city1Jul 30 2013 10:45 PM Brilliant article,just goes to show the same guys that were being ripped off by Berry Gordy.Went on to ripp each other off,very sadd. Chris. Like Top Quote Edit Hide Delete Report Jim Elliott photo Tape swappers fav Jim ElliottJul 30 2013 11:48 PM Those pics are mindblowing. Like Top Quote Edit Hide Delete Report Byrney photo Getting spins again ByrneyJul 30 2013 11:49 PM Thanks Rob for taking the time to do this. Fascinating stuff. Like Top Quote Edit Hide Delete Report Only Dreaming photo Semi known gem Only DreamingJul 31 2013 09:02 AM Great article and Pictures Dave Like Top Quote Edit Hide Delete Report TOAD photo Alltime Northern TOADJul 31 2013 09:07 AM Brilliant rob Like Top Quote Edit Hide Delete Report Jerry Hipkiss photo Getting spins again Jerry HipkissJul 31 2013 09:43 AM Absolutely fascinating read! Like Top Quote Edit Hide Delete Report ady croasdell photo Massive everywhere ady croasdellJul 31 2013 10:21 AM This is indeed a fascinating article with stunning photos but it seems to be very high on opinion rather than fact. The whole Giant label paragraph is incorrect and could easily be seen to be so with a little checking. The Chicago Giant label started in 1968 while the Detroit one commenced in 1965 and was finished by 1966. If Rob could point this out to Josie it would be one less slander against Pied Piper’s owners. Mike Terry was involved with both Giant labels from the beginning and it is very likely that he was a partner in the Detroit Giant label rather than in Pied Piper productions. Giant in Chicago ran smoothly from 1968 without any challenges from the original Detroit label owners so it is quite probable that Shelley and Jack gave Mike Terry the rights to the label name to take to Chicago and work with Mel Collins as a new partner. Mike was never a partner in Pied Piper. He worked for them within a large talented team of arrangers, producers, song-writers, musicians and singers. Her was probably too busy with his session work for his incredible saxophone prowess at Motown, in Philly and with Pied Piper to be able to run a demanding business at the same time. His session fees would have been substantially more than the off-chance of earning from possible hits. The whole Mike —good, Jack-bad scenario is very opinionated. As stated in the article Jack got Mike his break into writing and producing for which Mike was thankful and though they obviously had a business fall-out along the way, he looked back on those times with fondness. It seems to be Ed Wolfrun/Wolfum and Mike’s widow who have it in for Jack. For a studio engineer to divulge gossip about Jack and Mike’s financial arrangements is unprofessional and probably libellous, Soul Source might want to look into that further as they are a party in publishing the claims. There are many other inaccuracies and opinions in this that unfortunately detract from a lot of the good in the article. Apart from the totally false Giant saga, that isn’t a photo of Dave Hamilton on the Stevie Wonder photo, it’s Jack Ashford, the guy who sent me the photo. I’m on summer hols now with my son but I’ll have a look at the other flaws later. If we’re going to write historically important articles we should try and get them right from a factual point of view at the very least. Ady jocko, makstax and Flynny like Like Top Quote Edit Hide Delete Report ady croasdell photo Massive everywhere ady croasdellJul 31 2013 11:49 AM Sorry that wasn't meant to be in huge print I was working on a Mac, if a moderator could reduce it I'd be grateful. Ady Like Top Quote Edit Hide Delete Report maslar photo Semi known gem maslarJul 31 2013 08:39 PM Just a point on "I Miss My Baby". There are actually two songs here. Haskins (Parlaiments and Funkadelic) wrote the one recorded by Funkadelic circa Maggot Brain. D Peoples aka Richard Parker worked at Golden World. Peoples (Parker) is listed at BMI as composer of (presumably) the Rose Batiste track. Rob Moss and Hitsville Chalky like Like Top Quote Edit Hide Delete Report jocko photo Massive everywhere jockoAug 01 2013 09:50 AM It would be interesting, and surely important, for Rob to address Ady's points would it not, the internet can be abused dreadfully for self interest, e.g. The Sam and Dave widow saga. Not even remotely suggesting Rob is doing that but it would be good to at least answer Ady's points surely? Byrney, KevinKent and Flynny like Like Top Quote Edit Hide Delete Report Dean Rudland photo Semi known gem Dean RudlandAug 03 2013 09:23 AM Interesting use of words 'his actual contribution is unknown'. This sounds like you're saying that Jack didn't write the songs. Is this what you are saying Rob? If so what proof have you got?
  5. No don't think so. According to BMI it was written by 'Jimmy Barnes' and 'Donald Davis' which probably means that JJ wrote it by himself.
  6. Of all the material he worked on, 'Baby please come back home' was the record Mike Terry was proudest of.
  7. Job lot of Northern/ R&B/Soul/Modern records for sale. Over 150 records inc. Sheila Ferguson, Soul Bros 6, Beverly & Duane, Lee Rogers plus many Detroit pieces and many other rarities. Lot will NOT be split. Best offer takes everything. (By August 1st 2013) PM me to receive full list.
  8. Two versions by Fantastic Four. The single has strings. The album version doesn't and is a different vocal take.
  9. Following are for sale in £. PayPal OK (gift) Postage Royal Mail Special Delivery (£7.50 Insured) Overseas contact for details. Scans and sound files are from actual records. ROSE BATISTE Holding hands RIC TIC White Demo 850 rose b.mp3 ALMETA LATTIMORE These memories b/w Oh my love MAINSTREAM ISSUE 550 memories.mp3 EMANUEL LASKEY (Ive got to) run for my life THELMA WHITE DEMO 650 running.mp3 JIMMY SCOTT It rained 40 days & nights b/w Nobody but you GIANT 450 40 days.mp3
  10. Brilliant version of Ben E. King classic. JOHN SPEAKER I can't break the news to myself German VOGUE in Ex condition. £80 PayPal (Gift) OK. Post £2 (Uk only) Contact for overseas rates.
  11. The following are for sale. PayPal OK (Gift) Sound files available on request. Post £2 (UK) Contact for overseas rates. BOBBY FREEMAN I'll never fall in love again AUTUMN Promo VG+ Plays well. 40 JACKY BEAVERS Hold on SOUND STAGE 7 VG++ 50 RUBY ANDREWS I've got a bone to pick with you ABC Ex- 20 WALTER JACKSON Where have all the flowers gone/I'll keep on trying OKEH VG Plays well 15 MARY LOVE/DANNY MONDAY EP Lay this burden down/Baby without you UK KENT Promo Ex- 15 STRINGS 'N THINGS Fabulous New York/Charge JET SET VG++ 20 HIGH INERGY Make me yours (Brill. take on Betty Swann classic) GORDY White Promo Ex 12 INTERTAINS Gotta find a girl UPTOWN VG Plays well 20 RENA SCOTT Finally found the love EPIC Promo Ex 10 JACKIE WILSON Who who song BRUNSWICK VG+ 12 FALCONS I can't help it BIG WHEEL VG Plays well 12 SHARPEES Tired of being lonely ONE-DERFUL VG+ 15 DRAMATICS Inky winky wang dang doo WINGATE VG+ 10 SOLD PERCY SLEDGE Baby help me ATLANTIC M- 12
  12. George McGregor is on hundreds of Detroit records including many Ric Tic, Golden World recordings, Thelma Records, Topper, Sidra (Musical director) et al. His style is distinctive by how 'busy' he is. His musical background was in a marching band. Brilliant producer and songwriter too. Was married to Barbara Mercer
  13. Drummer is def. George McGregor, baritone sax is Mike Terry (who else !), bass is Bob Babbitt, keys are probably Joe (Hunter) guitars are probably between Dennis Coffey, Don Davis, Eddie Willis and Robert White. Girls sound like Pat and Diane Lewis, but it could be Elsie, Joyce and Dorothy (Debonaires). There is a slightly different mix to the song that features Edwin ad libbing at the start and a more prominent part for the baritone in the mix. Recorded at either United Sound Studios or Theme Productions because Berry had taken over the Davison address by then.
  14. Following are for sale.All original US issue unless stated. PayPal OK (gift) or 4%. Post £2 for first record (UK only) Photo and sound file available on request. LEE ROGERS I'm a practical guy/ Go go girl D TOWN VG+ 12 DAVID RUFFIN Common man White Promo BS Ex 10 IMPRESSIONS You've been cheatin ABC PARAMOUNT VG (Plays well) 8 BUCKINGHAMS Don't you care COLUMBIA VG+ 8 LEN JEWELL All my good lovin/Betting on love SOUL CITY UK Ex 6 BETTY WRIGHT If you love me like you say you love me ALSTON VG+ 8 ZZ HILL Don't make promises KENT VG+ 15 DEON JACKSON Hard to get a thing called love CARLA White Promo VG+ 15 EDDIE HOLLAND Candy to me MOTOWN VG (Plays well) 8 JOE MATTHEWS Sorry ain't good enough THELMA VG+ 18 SOLD WONDERETTES I feel strange RUBY VG+ 18 SOLD AL WILSON Be concerned PLAYBOY VG+ 8 RAMSEY LEWIS Wade in the water (Blue) CADET VG+ 8 CHARLES MANN I can feel it ABC Ex 10 LOU RAWLS You can bring me all your heartaches CAPITOL VG+ 8 ODDS & ENDS Yesterday my love TODAY VG+ 8 INEZ & CHARLIE FOXX No stranger to love MUSICOR VG++ 8 JIMMY RUFFIN Since I lost you SOUL Ex.(No. on label) 12 LEE ROGERS Boss love D TOWN Ex 10
  15. Thoroughly enjoyed both programmes. Such a pity that it took the BBC so long to make the Otis one and show the 'live' show. Very annoying that they've been sitting on this stuff for such a long time. Wonder what else is available.
  16. There's an unreleased Perfections on E Bay at the moment.
  17. Yes, I thought I saw him a couple of times ...and his sister. He actually appeared on Swingin' Time performing 'This won't change' I've seen a photo of it.
  18. Swingin' Time was actually broadcast from Windsor, Ontario, Canada and not Detroit. Members of the regular dancers on the show were twins, Leslie and Lester Tipton.
  19. Reasonable offers considered for the following. Silly offers will be ignored. Post £2 (UK only) Contact for overseas rates. PayPal OK. Sound files available. JOHN SPEAKER I can't break the news to myself VOGUE (Germany) with picture sleeve. Ex/Ex 100 THE PERFECTIONS I just can't leave you WHITE LABEL (Unreleased) Only a few made.Same as Tony Hestor 75 WILLIE HUTCH I can't get enough MODERN White Promo (Slight label wear) Ex- 50 BILLY THOMPSON Black eyed girl WAND (Company sleeve) VG+ 125 RUDY ROBINSON & HUNGRY FIVE I smell a rat MIER (Detroit) VG+ 45 DARROW FLETCHER What good am I without you JACKLYN Ex- 100 WONDERETTES I feel strange RUBY ( 1st local issue) VG+ 45 JOE MATTHEWS Sorry ain't good enough THELMA VG+ 40 BEVERLEY & DUANE You belong to me BROWN BOMBER VG+ 125 FINAL DECISIONS You are my sunshine HI C VG+ 100 SHEILA FERGUSON How did that happen LANDA White promo Ex- 75 GLORIA TAYLOR You got to pay the price KING SOUL (Rarest label) VG+ 75
  20. Following are for sale. Post £2 (UK only) Contact for overseas rates. PayPal OK. Sound files available. JOHN SPEAKER I can't break the news to myself VOGUE (Germany) with picture sleeve. Ex/Ex 100 THE PERFECTIONS I just can't leave you WHITE LABEL (Unreleased) Only a few made.Same as Tony Hestor 75 WILLIE HUTCH I can't get enough MODERN White Promo (Slight label wear) Ex- 50 BILLY THOMPSON Black eyed girl WAND (Company sleeve) VG+ 125 RUDY ROBINSON & HUNGRY FIVE I smell a rat MIER (Detroit) VG+ 45 DARROW FLETCHER What good am I without you JACKLYN Ex- 100 WONDERETTES I feel strange RUBY ( 1st local issue) VG+ 45 JOE MATTHEWS Sorry ain't good enough THELMA VG+ 40 BEVERLEY & DUANE You belong to me BROWN BOMBER VG+ 125 FINAL DECISIONS You are my sunshine HI C VG+ 100 SHEILA FERGUSON How did that happen LANDA White promo Ex- 75 GLORIA TAYLOR You got to pay the price KING SOUL (Rarest label) VG+ 75
  21. Got a couple of these for sale.Mint with picture cover. (See photos) £10.99 inc. post (UK only) PayPal OK (Gift)
  22. Got a couple of these for sale.Mint with picture cover. (See photos) £12.99 inc. post (UK only) PayPal OK (Gift)
  23. Two left only. Both XL. Tracks he played on both sides (see photo) £15 each (Inc. post UK only) PayPal (gift) OK. BACK FRONT.
  24. Following are for sale. £8 each plus £2 post (UK only) or 6 for £40. All are VG/VG+ unless stated and play well. PayPal OK (gift) Sound file available on request. All US issue unless stated. FANTASTIC FOUR I'm gonna carry on SOUL SPENCER DAVIS GROUP Somebody help me ATCO White Promo ROSCO ROBINSON That's enough WAND FRANKIE VALLI You're ready now PHILIPS UK ALLEN TOUSSAINT Get out my life woman BELL Ex. SPINNERS Are you ready for love ATLANTIC FOUR TOPS Love is the answer MOTOWN Ex/M- COMMODORES Don't you be worried MOWEST White Demo BS Mint PERCY SLEDGE Baby help me ATLANTIC Ex BETTY WRIGHT Lovin is really my game ALSTON Ex FALCONS I can't help it BIG WHEEL BILLY PAUL Only the strong survive PHILLY INT. OLYMPICS Baby do the Philly Dog MIRWOOD GAYLE McCORMICK Gonna be alright now DUNHILL Ex HB BARNUM Baby, love me CAPITOL Green Demo LEE DORSEY Go Go girl AMY Ex TIMMY SHAW I'm a lonely guy WAND JOEY KINGFISH Just one more time D.WRECKED. HIT Mint RUBY ANDREWS Away from the crowd ZODIAC RUBY ANDREWS Casonova ZODIAC LITTLE MILTON Bet you I win STAX Ex JERRY O Karate boogaloo SHOUT FREDA PAYNE Bring back the joy CAPITOL THREE DEGREES There's so much love all around me ROULETTE Ex TRAMMPS I feel like I've been livin' ATLANTIC Promo Ex BS Al GREEN Let me help you BELL Ex. MARGIE JOSEPH & BLUE MAGIC You and me got a good thing going ATCO WILSON WILLIAMS All that glitters is not gold ABC LORENZO'S SOUL TREATMENT Keep an eye MINIT Ex HONEY CONE The day I found myself HOT WAX Ex OTIS REDDING Try a little tenderness (Live at Monteray) ATCO White DEmo RUBUY ANDREWS You made a believer out of me ZODIAC


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