Geeselad

So many great ones, hard to pick

2 hours ago, Soul Salad said:

 

An instrumental and very long intro

Blew my mind first time I heard it at Bradford queen's hall. I was always really dark there, the floor cleared and just a few stayed on, the dancing, that fast floaty thing, you never ever see now, amazing memory. 

On 06/12/2023 at 18:41, Kev John said:

Coming away from mainly oldies intros

Bit more modern 1s today from me

THAT – All I Need

GIL SCOTT HERON - WHEN YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE

Good call's!

14 hours ago, Candiman said:

Interesting. As I said Rudzy was identifying reissues and pressings on some releases at least on his lists.

So if they were bootlegs ,either:

 he didn't know they were;

It was generally accepted on the scene  they must be;

He was being naughty.

 

I was never really into the Northern scene, just general Soul/funk, but I have become increasingly fascinated by it over the years. Bootleg v original must have been a minefield back then unless you were deeply into the scene.

 

A lot who were around at the time say that original copies were considered a bit passe after a tune was booted or reissued, still desirable but the turn over was high, people moved onto searching for the latest sound rather than something that now deemed an oldie. 

27 minutes ago, Paul-s said:

Yes, but its time to care. The BBC presenting a mediocre non-northern soul scene dancer as The World Champion, and calling the awful show she is in a cross between 'Phoenix Nights and Northern Soul' says it all. 

No doubt Mr R doesn't care as it seems to be all about product and paypal soul streams. 

For example, when Wigan closed, if a relatively small group of us hadn't cared enough to carry on, week in, week out, truly underground,  travelling miles to support venues, there would be no scene for returnees and online soul curators to swamp and parody.

I care about the roots of this culture and, for me,  it was built on decades of dedication, tenacity and caring enough to maintain connections to the musicians that created it, the vinyl, the dancing, the real souls and a collective understanding that its not all about or 'you' or 'I'.

I often see these online Northern Soul celebrity dancers, filming themselves alone on the dance floor and thats very emblematic really...

Well said! It's getting harder to challenge these issues but it has to be done. 

Carl Davis! I was thinking there nobody from Chicago in there and he pops into my head

https://secondhandsongs.com/artist/21034/all

Little anthony- use your head, what a bassline!

No this is well worthy, I'd definitely add; David porter/ Isaac Hayes, Steve cropper, Dan penn in the first instance but let me ponder this some more oh arh, and gamble and huff!

1 hour ago, Happy Feet said:

If it's perhaps possible to add a 3 & half ?

Chicago, Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is ,,,

 

It's one of my favourite albums, but was this played out?

On 07/11/2023 at 15:09, Paraboliccurve said:

Mid 1980s, travelling to a nighter in Sheffield (I think) where Popcorn Wylie was appearing (I think) a dog got run over on the M1 in front of us. Bit shit.

Around the same time, going to the Buzzard nighter and finding it had been moved to a cement works social club. Cement dust and sweat ruin a pair of shoes nicely.

Maybe late 80s, going to a new nighter at a miners' welfare in Notts somewhere. (I say a miners welfare, from memory it was like a village cricket club pavilion.) Good DJ line up, reasonable attendance. No gear. Worst nighter ever.

 

 

 

I was at the cement works, think it was called the bee gees club. Got a lift with someone to Aylesbury but only had about £1.50, after records and other essentials my return from London to buzzard wasn't valid. got a train back to London anyway, tried to pretend I was asleep but those ticket inspectors are persistent, he asked where I'd got on, last station I said, the ticket was about, £1.48, close call. 

On 13/11/2023 at 23:56, Pete Morgan said:

remember being in the queue at the Casino and there was a punk band on before  { Atilla and the Huns} i believe was the name . when all the punters left seeing the concert there was a huge clash with all of the soul crew outside.

It was mental and we ran and hid in the  multistory carpark next to the Casino until it all died down...Mental especially we were all off our chops !

I'd heard about this incident from my brother's mate's. I asked about on a previous thread, the band was slaughter and the dogs, if I remember correctly 

There's a duck for you 

Recently re-watched Elaine's Constantine's movie, with my son. I noted the disdain the characters give to a friend who wins the dance competition. 'dance competition! It's like Butlins' they exclaim. Was this your input Paul? Was that a true sentiment from the time? I have only a few vague memories of dance competitions in the 80's, generally thinking it killed the atmosphere at nighters, but saw it as just a part of the scene. 

Muck fe, that's familiar! I'm now sharing your frustration,

Atmosphere is key, don't mean to be oblique. But it's a combination of everything from the list, great venue half full or shit pit, rammed to the gunnels?  

I seriously doubt it! That's unbelievable. 

4 hours ago, Roburt said:

I married a Hull lass, so spent many hours in ULLL in the mid to late 60's & thru the 70's.

Lots of decent vinyl in 2nd hand shops there. The Uni had a history of booking live US blues acts to play their venues, so some folk would be attracted to Hull Uni by the social scene on campus. So many black music fans ended up as students in the city. If you fell lucky, you could find decent soul / R&B stuff in the 2nd hand shops on Beverly Rd / Princes Ave for many years (students getting skint & selling some of their records off). Also, with ULL being a big port you would find German, Dutch 45's in those same shops sometimes. Picked up a UK copy of Chubby's "You Just Don't Know" and a German Dee Dee Sharpe 45 on one visit in the 60's. 

I have no idea how the link came about but there was a Record Exchange shop in ULL (on Princess Ave, then Anlaby Rd) that had strong links with (Book &) Record Exchange in west London. I had no idea of the link at the time, but the London shops would send 45's up to the ULL shop on a regular basis. I recall picking up UK CBS / Epic demo 45's from their Anlaby Rd shop around 72/73 and wondering how the shop obtained them. 

I would start heading down to London to visit those Record & Tape Exchange shops (Shepherds Bush, Camden) from the early 80's -- mind you they were the haunts of the likes of Roger Banks & Paul Temple, so the NS stuff got snapped up quickly.  

The basement of Camden record and tape exchange was amazing. Thousands of 45's, used to pick up loads of UK Motown and exchange it with minshull for imports, around 87/88

On 10/11/2023 at 18:23, Soul Salad said:

But who? because i really can't find anything.

PS while you're here thanks for introduction to me of Oscar Perry He sent me you, im sure it was your good self who played it on one of your podcasts? - been in my top 10 for a good while now - great record! .

Quite a few artists it seems, but they are all abismall

https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-official-top-40-best-selling-cassette-albums-of-2022__38206/

On 08/12/2009 at 20:12, arnie j said:

 

 

good one,and if i may add to that,who discovered soul bros inc-pyramid, some peeps must have thought this was utter tripe at the time, not me though,stafford heaven to these ears

Tim A told me he bought the first copy from a girl at a dayer late 70's. 

I think supertime was speed up for the bootleg pictured above 

56 minutes ago, Eddie Hubbard said:

https://classicrockreview.wordpress.com/category/robert-plants-record-collection/
 

Good article on Robert Plants record collection 

Excellent article, thanks Eddie. 

4 hours ago, Corbett80 said:

This bloke has been trying this stuff on for years, no one ever touches these comedy 45s he tries to sell - to my knowledge. As Benji said one chancer trying it on doesn’t mean the scene is f*cked. Plenty of other things that could screw it other than this guy’s antics. Fully agree it isn’t pleasant to think he would try and take someone for that much money though.

About sums it up, if I was listening to that to see if I'd buy at a car boot it wouldn't get past the ten second mark. 

3 hours ago, Smudger said:

Most British rock bands were influenced by American r n b and blues artists,Jethro Tull 25 th anniversary tour started with a juke box on the stage playing Smokestack lightning ,I’m a man and Hoochie coochie man etc.Alex Harvey recorded 00 soul and others 

 

 

Alex is my favourite artist, he also covered, good night Irene.

12 hours ago, Daniel Nooger said:

John Paul Jones recalled in the book Led Zeppelin The Tight But Loose Files that Muddy Waters' Electric Mud album provided inspiration for Zep's "Black Dog"

You can hear that. I think that muddy album got slated by the traditionalist fans at the times, but possibly went on to inspire a genre