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I was just looking at teddy's early career.  I'm surprised to find only a few releases from Harold Melvin and the blue notes, in the 60's. Can anyone enlighten or add depth? Was Teddy a late bloomer? which HMATBN's records did he do lead on? 

The guy had amazing dynamic range and character in his voice. Has to be up there on any GOAT list. 

As said above, polythene rubbers are very, avoid the text if possible. Manship does a good clip on it. Works well with yellow labels too. 

On 04/08/2024 at 18:03, Frankie Crocker said:

Mr Sheen spray is good for cleaning styrene records - use a soft record cleaning cloth.

Whatever you do, never put lighter fluid on styrene as removes the gloss and discolours it

Doesn't wax or silicone bread cleaners like Mr sheen leave a waxy coating? I've read this method is best avoided. 

Got a few I flip for the gathering nights. 

My condolences to to Maria and family. Carl made a big contribution as a DJ and collector. I know he will be missed by many. 

2 hours ago, Mal C said:

here you go mate, from that 'who did it first' website...

Happiness Is Just Around the Bend - Brian Auger's Oblivion Express - 1973
(First recording in March 1973)

Happiness Is Just Around the BendThe Main IngredientFebruary 1974

Happiness Is Just Around the Bend - Cuba Gooding 1983

Happiness Is Just Around the Bend- Kenya Travitt 2009

Happiness Is Just Around the BendVintage Lounge Orchestra - March 19, 2012

Happiness Is Just Around the BendJeff Golub with Brian Auger - August 13, 2013

Thank you, I've seen mentions of an AWB version but I can't find any trace of it. 

2 hours ago, Mal C said:

Another Auger / Driscoll (Tippets) fan, I love it...  found this one, which is not really a great excursion from the original, and features Auger... collaboration more like?

 

Great backing but in not so keen on his vocal, thanks

Hi all, one of my personal favourite songs is " happiness is just around the bend". Brian Auger and oblivion express write and recorded the original version in 73, covered and billboard hit for main ingredient in 74.

I'm aware of the later Cuba gooding version and it was sampled a lot in early 90' house records. Considering it's popularity I can't find any other versions, does anyone know of any other versions of the song? Many thanks in advance. 

I know Cal T Jader- soul source was played at the torch, or golden torch, perhaps? I suspect some were played in the early days of the wheel and London mod clubs like tiles, the scene ect can anyone confirm?

You also have Latin influenced records from the 70' Al foster band, silvetti,  Jobelle ect. There's a heritage that goes beyond the mods playing tracks in London in the mid 80's you also need to consider great vocal tracks like Tommy Navarro, David Coleman, and Tony Galla, all played at Stafford I believe. 

On 20/07/2024 at 16:59, Gaz T said:

I just find it odd that it’s a small selection of boogaloo things  that have gained popularity 

hector rivera chance for romance

bobby Valentin use it before you loose it

harvey averne never learned to dance

manny corchado pow wow

Tony Middleton Spanish maiden 

yes there are others that may get a play now and then, Subway Joe, Hey Sister, heads head , already satisfied, true love etc

the genre has so many good soulful tunes, yes  often  on long players but it’s interesting to me why only a handful of boogaloo tunes sort of made it massive on the soul scene and  then that’s the end of it 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd say the Harvey averne isn't boogaloo, it's more of a soul/ funk record with obvious Latin influence. But it obviously needs inclusion it has been massive 

Always an absolute minefield I'd information, thanks pal

On 20/07/2024 at 21:56, Gaz T said:

for example 

he dropped this in his set at Leeds 

I had no idea what it was but it  sounded so good loud 

Never heard anything about this record since 

I did  obviously secure my copy and have enjoyed listening to it 

but this is why  I went out in the 80s and 90s 

to hear people with great taste  play great records that I didn’t know 

fair play to Guy

he hasn’t changed one bit 

maybe the appetite on the soul scene for new things generally has changed? 
 

let’s be honest 

if he had played this record at Stafford it would be  fetching hundreds of pounds by now and it would be a tune that everyone would know 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Great, but another I can't find for sale in the UK

Basically this tape, along with a few others became a blueprint for my collecting passion. Not just the specific records but it showed l there was a whole world of music, beyond the bog standard oldies , that deserves exploring. 

Here what I played at No 18, great fun in the sun, playing mainly funky soul sounds. 

Hot ice company - you ain't heard nothing yet -Lionel 

Third guitar - going down to the river- Rujac

Lenny Howard - keep your faith baby - Real George 

Liberation street singers- love is in the air- Pentagram 

Staple singers- power of love- Epic

Patti and The emblems- easy come, easy go- Congress

Johnny K Wiley- going back to Memphis - Epic

William C Belton Jnr - coming by back to me baby- Elcombe

Linda Tounssant- baby dont say no- Re cord

Lewis clarke- I got eyes on you- Red Ram

Bobby Mandolph- just before the dawn- CU

Crossfire - you- Extremely brave

Barbara and Gwen - right on ( for the street called love)  New Chicago sound

Duralcha- Jody is gone- Microtronics

Sunrise movement- running wild- Ghetto productions 

Baby Huey and the baby sitters- just being careful - USA

Rosie lopez- too hot to hold- Pulsar

Charessa and the charmettes- personal woman- Atco

Katie Webster - voodoo love bliss- Goldband

Gene waiters- shake and shingling - Fairmount 

Ronnie and Ron - I ain't finished yet - Unisfere

Leon Austin - Turn me loose- King

11 hours ago, Roburt said:

I've posted too much on this thread already ... BUT just have to add that I can't believe there's been so many posts on here AND YET no mention yet of OTIS REDDING and his records.

Otis was a big factor in southern soul catching on with UK fans in 1963/64.

You can never post too much pal, your insight is always incredible 

2 hours ago, Dylan said:

 

and fantastic cover version which I heard first and probably prefer

 

 

Bloody hell how good a song is that, awsome

10 hours ago, Shinehead said:

Maybe the reason for no mention of Otis is because i thought ? the main gist of the thread was records that changed the musical direction of black music  in the U.S. example R&b to early soul then the Motown Sound then to more funk and album oriented stuff and seventies sweet soul, not records that had an influence on British listeners.

Or maybe I am wrong as usual ?.

To be honest I hadn't thought about it there deep initially but I think I was refering to influence on black music progression.

As someone has also said, thousands of artists and records have had an impact, but I wanted the thread to look at the most influential, the ones that were copied the most or had the greatest contribution towards the changing sound of the R&B charts. I'm happy to have people contribute examples from the late 50's too but let's cut this at 69 and perhaps we do a 70- till modern day in the future. 

Thanks for all.the contributions so far some excellent and diverse selections that I'm not familiar and provide real insights 

2 hours ago, Roburt said:

If you meant influential with UK fans (rather than influential with other US acts or with US buyers)  ...

then if your local club DJ had imports as early as 63 OR if not & he only had UK 45's then from 65 right through to 1970,  "Harlem Shuffle" would have been just about the biggest mod / UK soul club track of influence.

I'm not being specific, just most influential! Harlem shuffle had to be a great call. 

3 hours ago, Mal C said:

If you are looking for JB influences, it would have to be 'Live at the Apollo' 1963, wouldn’t it? every black family in America had a copy of this LP, and I think he / they (The Flames) did Ed Sullivan show a few years after, 1966,  It don’t come bigger that that does it...

Gleeslad, you did already, but maybe we can define this a bit more, influential R&B / Soul releases, for the US, the UK or Worldwide, or just the northern soul fraternity?

 

Worldwide, the Most influential in not just soul but  any genre. bobby parker was influential in terms of rock as well as the development of black music 

Thanks for all the contributions so far. Plenty of worthy suggestions, some I don't know but will listen to everything suggested. I was born in 1969 so often don't get the context of the market/ music scene at the time and find this stuff really useful. Please keep them coming 

4 hours ago, Dylan said:

so many versions of this song.  Probably the most copied song I know.

Was 6th I'm my top 5! 

6 hours ago, Tobytyke said:

Drifters. Some Kind of Wonderful, one of the first r&b records to use strings,which influenced so many other records of the 60s and 70s.

Thanks, I honestly didn't know that but can see the significance. I'm assuming Clyde mcphatter on lead there, what a strong lead vocal. 

1 hour ago, Happy Feet said:

The one that probably started the whole shape of things to come ,, 

Ray Charles , What I'd Say , 61 ish , I'll have to think or work on the other 4 .

Good call, not just on black music, I saw Alex Harvey talking in an interview about how influential that record was, in Hamburg at the time of release. 

Always source of interest for me, I often try to pin down the records that would have formed the models for most black music of the 60's, you have to limit it to sone extent, 70's to follow perhaps. 

I used rhythm and blues in the most general terms, records aimed at or created by black Americans. Be they funk, soul, R&B, gospel ect. Anything goes here.

I'll start with a few I'd suggest as crucial to the development of black music, although pretty obvious, there must be loads more to go at. Be great to have you top 5's, year would be nice too.

Wilson pickett- midnight hour - stax studios 1965

Fontella bass- rescue me-  chess 1965 

Bobby parker - watch your step- V tone Washington 1961

Friends of distinction - grazing in the grass- RCA 1969

Temptation - I know I'm loosing you - Motown 1966

10 hours ago, Paul Capon said:

Not an external noise but once you hear this you can’t miss it.

On Sideshow ‘Sexy Lady’ - MUSCADINE 45 the lead vocalist Arthur Ponder comes in too early at 2 mins 25secs after the instrumental break. He then sheepishly trails off and comes back in when he is supposed to at 02:44. 
Makes me smile anyway!

 

Great track despite it.