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4 hours ago, Keamus said:
New to me. Very nice!
£5 from king bee a few weeks back!
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11 hours ago, Chalky said:why not look for something else cheaper? plenty of quality records that are affordable. Plenty of Djs have those 1000 quid records so why listen to someone playing a boot/carver, call it what you want
The history as you call it, records were cut because there was no original (studio tapes) or just one known original with a collector, much of what Soussan sent over, Jackie Day Naughty Boy for an 80s example. That is hardly the case these days with plenty having those originals. By and large it has always been about rare original vinyl, Djs having records exclusive to them.
You want to Dj with a carver, do you accept monopoly money for your fee?
The scene has become obsessed with rarity to the extent where its stifling anything fresh or progressive IMHO. If you look at the foundations of the soul scene in this country how many of those records played were financially unavailable? Certainly good DJs had their exclusives but what proportion of the records from the torch and wheel were out of the reach of the average punter if they really wanted them? 10%, maybe less. Compare that to say Ted's set last weekend or any DJ working nationally. Martin Ellis would never get gigs now, or Evo for that matter, if he was starting out, and yes I know Dave's got an amazing collection, but he's always championed cheapies, Spyder turner for example. Bring out the ten quid tunes and let's get back to exciting DJ sets.
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On 12/10/2022 at 23:56, Macysmall said:
What are you talking about? The scene was never about having the tune on original format it was just about having the tune full stop. Tons of Master tapes were brought back here and put onto emedisc by the DJs of the time. Lots of tunes never ever got to a test pressing stage. Snobs and Soul police need to learn the real history of the scene not the dreamland made up idea of the one they think they know.
Perhaps you'd like to expand on this history, I'm curious. As to what your saying, what percentage of these unrealised tracks from the halcyon days of the scene were first played off Emidiscs? I never realised how influential they were, I've obviously been sold a lie by my soul brothers; on the value of collecting originals and how exploring record collecting through listening to records on obscure labels trying to find something fresh is intrinsic to the scene. I could have saved a fortune and just bought a pile of emi's or carver's! 🫣
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1 hour ago, sjclement said:
Bleedin' Redneck
He's from new Jersey isn't he, that's saying a scouser's a yokel
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Well.he couldn't do a worse vocal than Frank, could he. Bruce is getting on but at least sings within his limitations and is in key, unlike Mr Wilson.
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Played this out after times in the last ten years, always goes down well, the origin of 'that' sample, so it's instantly recognisable.
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Listened yesterday, what a story.
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It's like asking if I prefer salt or pepper, both are essential to enhance the food of life.
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Wow, been playing elements of love, at FTMNTC, paid a just over £100 last year on discogs.
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I like it, and in the right room, sound system ect can see it working for dancers.
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12 hours ago, Amsterdam Russ said:
So a hopefully chart-bound pop tune becomes "Northern Soul" just because some people on drugs 1,000s of miles away decide so after "they" invent the term long after he recorded his tune?
Er yeah, exactly that.
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3 hours ago, Chalky said:
Its a great 45, Aretha’s take too.
I'm not saying it's not a good song but it's so light it could blow away, I can imagine 5th dimension doing a version or Patti Boulaye, in some ways it's more poppy than BO. but we are comparing pop and soul from different years, must be ten years between the two songs.
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8 hours ago, Chalky said:
Can you compare the two? It Only Happens for me is out and out soul music, production, lyrics and delivery. The other is simply pop for me.
He's spot on it's just as poppy as BO
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17 hours ago, Amsterdam Russ said:
Care to enlighten us all?
I'll have a go;
Oldies baggies crew- actually went out back in day northern oldies
Oldies divs- dance to owt
Modern - 70's oldies
Crossover- actually play a lot of above to claim it's different
R and b/ mod thing
Upfront- funky gospel garage ect all 60's
Upfront- progressive- actually play stuff from 60- contemporary
Modern soulful House
Rare soul
Divide them into north south east and west regions and your into 20+ easy.
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Larry sheman- trax records, Chicago was infamous for his dubiously pressed records using my recycled vinyl.
https://mixmag.net/feature/trax-records-chicago-house-originators-payment-larry-sherman
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4 hours ago, Merve said:
I agree, but if you were going to make truly convincing boots wouldn't it be possible to recycle vinyl from that era? A genuine question that as I haven't a clue if that would be possible.
Recycling tends to degrade vinyl and records pressed on it are considered inferior. You often s e virgin vinyl as a selling tool on new pressing..
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10 hours ago, Source said:
Guardian running an interesting article
Cutting up the dancefloor: the glorious, dubious history of the disco edit
some interesting points, such as nowadays more likely to re-record/recreate rather than sample to avoid copyright/payment issues
Virtually everything Craig Charles plays is an edit, non new releases anyway. I've often wonder who gets paid, the editor or the artist?
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7 minutes ago, Benji said:
Was told to "f*ck off back where I come from" at the 100 club a couple of years ago.
Hopefully by non soul folk but sad non the less
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Only had this experience once, in stockport, but generally I'm not on my own and either me or my mate know someone. But there are plenty of places I could get that vibe, if I didn't know anyone. I eluded to this in the thread, on the people over hyping, intergalactic soul festival year 2030! then it's them and their mates again.
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3 hours ago, Amsterdam Russ said:
Haha - as you say, never too old to learn something new. The term 'new old stock' of course I knew, but don't recall seeing it in abbreviated form (NOS). Or maybe the old brain cells are letting me down. Now I must go and take the laundry out of the oven.
I know it from oldskool BMX sites, where it's over used to the point of ridiculous. Not heard it used in records context much. If you think record prices are silly, you better check out that kids bike in you shed it could be a ' survivor' they pay very well for rust!
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9 hours ago, Mot said:
If I remember right......I bought one when the stock was found............think it was about £50 to £60............I'm sure I've seen it as low at £30 at one point.........really surprised its jumped up to the prices noted above............sold mine a long while ago now and struggled to get my money back on it!
£40 was the lowest I saw it go.
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Both cuts renowned as underground disco classics, real anthems from the paradise garage, loft, warehouse and power plant.
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25 minutes ago, Timillustrator said:
All sorts of people who used to work on credit or 30 day payment terms are now asking for advance payments, I've seen a few examples personally. I could well see venues saying that in order to secure a date for next year they require a hefty deposit, otherwise they may not be in business next year. Or is it just promoters getting the money in and sitting on it?
If that is the case, then why not be honest with the punters, I'd appreciate it. I suppose it's the very anathema to the way promotion is done, and not realistic.
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