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Fred, I pondered and came up with - Lou pride- mans world - please.

south African, I take it? Ooops, didnt notice you said UK, so it exists then?

Otis blue, miles- kinda blue of maybe Zepplin 2

Its a thousand years in the future and guys are riding around on hover scooters! see they gotta listen to northern!

Sorry to say this mate and no offence but BOLLOCKS!!!!!!

Deadbeats, court davis, cecil, Billy Arnell, majestics funky chick, al williams, John and the weirdest, Christ ther'e so bleeding many!!!!!A rrrgghghgh my heads going to blow!!!!!! sorry I can pick just one fred!!!!!

As I said, I'm over simplifying to say its just about tempo, its the feel, production and vocal style that appeals to diverging elements within the scene.

Its all so off the peg for kids now, if its easy to access, it must be good, there's such a different mentality amongst most young people toaday than even my generation that grew into the scene in the 8TS. I think we were just so much more suspicious of the mainstream.

You've got it there. Although I think that the more 'traditional' rare nights are more accepting of downtompo stuff, and too be honest its not just tempo either, that would over simplify things, tradition rare fans I've spoken to seem to prefer more polished production styles, with a greater enthpasis on the soul qualities, as opposed to dancability. I heard so many anecdotes where folks have said' I like it, but where's the soul?'

I didnt want to be so specific, its just one mans opinion, and as always my appreciation and understanding by reading many of the opinions on the subject, has grown. There certainly a difference some of what I hear at rare soul nights compared to allnighters, and I suppose thats always existed for obvious reasons! Many rare soul fans no longer attended allnighters and have little taste for the more upfront sounds, possibly due to not hearing them in context.

Sound Shute, good to speak mate, yeah your right as well there's certainly parallels with the oldies/ newies scene.

The definition of what a rare soul night is is very broad, at the moment, with some nights choosing to focus on midtempo and X over as opposed to the more uptempo, upfront sounds, including latin and the funkier end of things. Do folks see there being a definate split in what's offered in the future or will rare nights need to grow to encompass all the sounds mentioned above. For me tolerance and diversity is the key, but I doubt some of the oldskool 'rare' crew will appreciate the BPM's and energy of say one of Carl H's sets, or Vise versa. I'll take a big Gulp before posting this, and I'm sure I'll get some stick! but it needs saying! there's just something in the air.........

Saw gil in Manchester in the mid nineties, first time he didnt show, but his band did! The midnite express were excellent, so much so that whe Gil did play with them the following month I was didappionted with his, just like the record performance and lack of rapore with the audience, but thats Crack cocaine for you!

seen a few bits from this tape cheap recently, I had the charmers and margie hendrix for 40 and 50 resepectively, over the moon to pick em up for that price, they sold for more than that in the 8ts!

charmers-if youre looking for trouble (red label?) DIP vito and salutations-id best be going (Sandbag same as Epitome Of Sound)) Yeah but its purple Derek

I was studying @ st martins when I met you Kev, djing in our coffee bar, the Alex introduced me to so many folks on the scene, and reading this so much has come flooding back, those drapes wow! So many names mentioned on here have conected names to faces as I remember talking heavy vinyl with dennis Ben and Mat especially on many occasions. I'm sure I've got a flyer somewhere, musically Kev playing Jackie Beavers and Little Johhny Hamilton, and hearing John and the weirdest for the first time and darting over to ask Tony smith wha it was. I 'm certain I recalled asking you why you'd rigged up a pulley system to keep the lids on the deck up, 'why dont you take them off Kev?' I asked.

think its a bit much even for the hardcore allnighter crowd nowadays, let alone anyone in a relationship with someone not on the scene.

Oh my god, thanksfully I've lost a few ibs since then!!!!!!!!! I'm on the left with me old mucker Dave C

HMMMMMMMMMMM, was going to leave it till the anniversary, but whens the next one guys? I need a 100 club fix in june if possible!!!!

I have an eddie kendrick on tamla, pananma, and a few other central american bits, cant scan at the mo though

Mucho latin and boogaloo, top movie, love it, you can get it in a box with both rise to power and the origianl carlito's.

something quite similar to Lou Rawls aproach in some of this, maybe its the live raps!

Stones did an LP 'get yer Ya Ya's' out, indeed we had a local indie band 'the Ya, ya's' back in the 8ts, I've always assumed it meant balls, as in the testi!

some great ideas, so far in a range of styles, cheers, keep em coming folks, thanks!