I sincerely hope to of caused no real offence to you Giant, or any others, I just thought your comments were out of order and insulting, and didnt read them as a joke, maybe I shouldnt of stuck my nose in the first place, but I cant stand by and watch people apparantly belittle others, its a curse thats always caused me problems. I could go on about your apparant ellitist attitiude and how it halms the scene, but its all ready been said. I'm always prepared to give others due respect, particularly when there on the cutting edge of discovering new spins and widening the genre, I dont know you Gaint but I have respect via proxy due to what others have said on here about yourself. Right, and this isnt a dig, I'm off to to get ready for one of the finest nighters around, its a living breathing thing this scene and always about the here and now for me.