georgeblackwell

Everyone who buys and sells on Ebay has a multitude of stories about the devious and dishonest people who populate the internet. The latest episode that got me all fired up was a guy that I sold a parcel of 50 records to who left me negative feedback and a message in pigeon English "All your records is damaged" then when I checked his feedback he had sold on 43 of them a week later and received positive feedback "records great A1 seller" what a twat!!! but you cannot get Ebay to rescind the negative.

Stone me !!!! a 9 minute plus dance track. They usually have to call the paramedics for most of my punters after about 4 minutes of dancing. I personally can just about manage to stay on the floor for the whole of Ronnie Milsap - Ain't no soul (about 1 min 50). But seriously folks when there are literally thousands of brilliant underplayed real soulful tunes out there why would you even give turntable space to this derivative shite. I used to get pissed off in the late 70's early 80's when virtually every new release was commanding me to "Get on Down" now we have the phenomenon of the M.C. telling us endlessly to "Come On" - very imaginative, very creative. Regardless of whether or not "the dance floor" loves this one, all of those involved in promoting this abomination should hang their heads in shame. I may sound a bit biased here so to put things in perspective I do come from that old school who thinks that the soul fell out of northern soul the night Wigan Casino opened. Discuss................

Did Searling ever play anything that wasn't a cover up ????????????????????

Is the Sharon Davis book MOTOWN THE HISTORY ? because if it is I just checked my copy and there is no reference to a title in the RIC-TIC discography for RT113. My copy was published in 1988 and unless the discography was altered in a later edition then the number does not feature in the book. Incidentally the numbers RT 121 Fantastic 4 and 125 Willie G are absent from the list as well. All of this is academic in reality because RT 113 does not and never has existed. The story has been told many times of Ed Wingate's aversion to the number 13. A renowned inveterate gambler and horseplayer he was very superstitious and never used the number 13.

Like the guys say it is virtually impossible to resist the laughter

Remember getting this as a new release from Record Corner in Balham circa 72 along with Continental Four - What You Gave Up - Jay Walking. Ann Sexton never got much exposure at the the time as it was not really considered a "sound" and the tempo was not quite right - unlike Continental Four which got hammered on the decks as a new release.

I often throw down the challenge to the dance floor when I am deejaying that if anyone can show me how to do THE LARUE I will buy them drinks all night - never had any takers yet though !!!

Bruce Cloud was in Billy Wards Dominoes after Clyde Mcphatter and Jackie Wilson had left the group. He was second tenor with the group . After leaving the group in 1962, Cloud tried to make it on his own and in 1969 released the California Soul album on Capitol. Cloud is an interesting character as much for his music as he is for his tragic personal life story. After failing to realize commercial success with his solo career, Cloud was forced to take a job at a drug store. Things were not going well for Cloud and his family and after nearly divorcing his wife, Cloud killed her and their two year old child before committing suicide.

Listen chaps, There is only one song that truly delivers and here it is - I defy anyone not to piss themselves watching this

I do remember my older brother introducing LOVE GUESS WHO - ARTHUR GREAVES AND THE VAN DRIVERS

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Just spotted this one - Must have been a fat lass - Four Tops Loving you is sweater than ever Tamla Motown Frosty

Sold my Red Issue of RT 116 - San Remo Golden Strings for £190 - I guess that becomes the bench mark. Frosty

If I could just find the keys to my tardis .......maybe give Levine a call he's well up on that time travel lark Frosty

The Ventures - Hawaii five 0 - played everywhere - need i say more !!!!

Wigan did not have a monopoly on playing shite pop tunes as northern Soul, I have mentioned this before but for those not old enough to remember - a certain top DeeJay played Gary Glitter - Rock and Roll pt 2 covered up as Johnny Jones & the KIng Casuals when it came out as a new release (this was 6 months before the record and Mr Glitter hit the big time) - Alan Day - hang your head in shame. Frosty

Defo played at various venues pre wigan, heard it down at The Catacombs circa 1972. In 1973 I took a copy of the Dave Clark 5 original to the Blackpool Mecca covered up. I gave it to Ian Levine to play and told him it was the vocal version of a really big instrumental sound. He played about 20 seconds of it before he realised what it was. Oh the folly of youth, the good old days when you could have a laugh and take the piss without the fear of being ostracised by the thought police. Frosty P.S. I have got a really nice copy of the Album on US Atco with all of Leon's greatest Northern hits, you could buy it to put alongside your Wayne Gibson and Guy Darrell L.P's

Stone me, I never new the long version came out on 45, I have been playing it from the original LP for years Frosty

Hey Pete don't get so defensive, just chewing the fat here. You may be missing the point, I am not saying they only made 20 copies of this, very unlikely, but by the same logic it is unlikely that they knocked out 20,000 copies of this record against predicted future sales. Edwin Starr was the companies biggest selling artist so you would expect there to be 1000's of his 45's out there and likewise the Fantastic Four. Lets face it the SRGS records were a bit of an acquired taste and after the initial success of Hungry For Love the overall sales of the subsequent records (judging by chart positions) got smaller with each release. Also this one came out late 1966 and in early 1967 Motown after the acquisition of Ric Tic etc and through their Gordy imprint reissued Festival Time / Joy Road. It is possible there was no commercial push on this record at all by Ed Wingate and his team. As for destroying any unsold stock I am old enough to remember the demise of the Chess records empire following the death of Leonard Chess and the subsequent sale of the company to GRT. The tragedy when their main offices and storage facility at 320 East Twenty First Street Chicago was sold to developers and the new owners sent in a crew to gut the place. They set about the whole unsold stock of over 250,000 records with chainsaws and chucked the lot into skips to be carted away to landfill. Heaven knows what was in there ??? Frosty

Going by the quantity of other Ric Tics, there must be 20,000 of these in a warehouse somewhere lying undiscovered, Yes, I have heard of this warehouse, apparently it is situated on Atlantis right at the end of the rainbow. Lord Lucan works behind the counter and the biggest selling item they have is TONY TURNER (MY ROOM IS ONLY) SIX BY SIX - MUSICOR. I will pop in and have a look next time I am out in my Tardis. Frosty

It's funny really because the aforementioned dealers are very astute and don't usually let a rare record slip through their fingers cheaply. They also may not value RT 116 too highly. But guess what, whilst they have had the demo of this going for between £10 and £20 and it is easy to pick up. They have not listed an issue of this in the last 10 years and only one has come up on Ebay in that time. Obviously any private sales are completely off the radar and I know Tim listed Issue copies a few years back but they were actually demos that he had. I know because I tried to buy them. Ask any completist who does not have this Issue and they will tell you that it is never seen these days. In terms of reasons for scarcity I think this would certainly be the worst selling of The San Remo's 45's and probably one of the lowest selling records on the label. By the time all the guys in the band got copies and gave some away to family and friends I guess the first pressing was just about taken care of and they probably didn't run a second lot. Who knows??? Frosty

Just checked on popsike and in the last 6 years Rose Batiste demos = 0 issues = 10 JJ Barnes demos = 2 Scotts on swingers = 3 Fantastic 4 demos = 0 issues = 29 Edwin Starr demos = 0 issues = 12 Al Kent demos = 1 San Remo issues = 1 So yes all of the aforementioned demos are extremely rare but when it comes to Issue copies the San Remo's RT116 rarely seems to come to market. Frosty

Thats the best one yet, brilliant Frosty

I have been collecting Canadian stuff for years, the vinyl pressings are just superb and for my money they must be rarer than either US or UK copies. I have tried to get every Motown record on a Canadian label. Problem is, it seems no one knows what came out in Canada and what didn`t. So it is very difficult to know If I have got them all or not. Also after a few releases on London and Reo they all came out on Tamla / Tamla Motown but they retained the US catalog numbers (Tamla 54021 - 54333, Motown 1000 - 1938, Gordy 7001 - 7216, Soul 35001 - 35123, V.I.P. 25001 - 25069) so you cannot follow them chronologically like you can with UK TMG numbers. Below are some interesting Canadian Motowns in their original sleeves. The sleeves themselves tell a story as they changed along with the label changes. Also some interesting General label releases attached and Some Okeh/epic stuff Frosty

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