jazzyjas

There was a variation with catalog numbers and the way the group was listed on the label. I've got the "hard" one in my collection. It's #1010. The more common issue is catalog #1071. Great record both sides. I just played it two nites ago. Hope you snag one for a fair price. KTF Jas

pikey-question states "Aside from Tamla/Motown..." got your roscoe record packed and waiting. let me know.. KTF Jas

Danny White-Cracked Up Over You You know? I just got that one on a pink demo at the scooter rally in Las Vegas back in Feb. 2003 for $30 in a Decca sleeve. Man that thing looked UNPLAYED! Very pleased with that purchase. Got it from Thumbsy: ex-pat living in LA, originally from Norwich (Back Street Soul Club) he used to spin records with Keith Slater. You know those guys? KTF Jas

FORGOT CAPITOL! doh!

Forgot a few from the last pool, so I mixed them in with the major labels. KTF Jas

Wasn't sure if this poll had ever been done before. Some tough choices on here, even though I've surely left out a few good ones. Have fun! KTF Jas

Ever have those times where you look back and feel like kicking yourself for not buying certain records? My big three "pass-ups" 1. Pyramid-Soul Brothers, Inc. - on Craig Moerer's lists for a whopping $100 years ago. 2. Quicksand-Kell Osbourne - Could have bought a mint demo of this and a mint demo of "Ain't That Just Like a Woman" by Doug Banks...$250 for the pair 3. Steinways-$30 for a VG styrene issue in an Oliver sleeve. Three years later-$40 for a VG+ vinyl demo. Both times, I wanted to hold out for a better copy. :angry: Let these go different times during the early 90s: 1. The Big Change-Anna King - had a mint copy and let it go for who knows what. 2. Hit and Run Lover-Sonnetts-K.O. - had an almost unplayed copy. Barely got anything for it. 3. Promise Me-A Group Called Us - don't remember if this was good or not. 4. Time Was-Chosen Lot on Sidra - another one-don't remember the sound. Well, at least I didn't let anything major or really good go (except Anna King). But OH! the stuff I passed up! It's enough to make you sick! Share a story or two about those times-that is if you can stand the pain! KTF Jas

Back in 1997, a guy named James Maxwell of Scotland starting coming to the soul nights we were putting on in Baltimore. He was working in Washington, DC for a short while and moved back to the UK, possibly London. He is originally from Scotland and would be about 33-34 years old. If I can, I'll dig up a photo of him. Just wondering what he's been up to lately and if he's still on the scene. He played some great sounds at our night years ago, too. Any info would be great! KTF Jas

"To Be A Lover" on Checker is a killer ballad! VERY soulful! The Duke of Earl himself signed the white blank label on the back of my one-sided promo back in 1991, along with one of my Dukays 45s. For vocal delivery and interpretation, I've got to go with "Nothing Can Stop Me" For dancing, it's got to be "Mr. Big Shot" KTF Jas

Derek, Put them on in lots and you'll do better. People are looking for bargains and are going to be more likely to buy in bulk and/or take the whole lot off your hands just to get to a few records you didn't realize were sought after. It's all in the title of the auction. People might be looking for drum breaks, samples, whatever...You'd be suprised. Get out of the northern mindset for a moment and look at the behaviors of other types of buyers and find out more about what you've got. If anything, keep that box near your feet at work and look every single item up on ebay if you have to while you secretly surf the net, just to see what the market is. There could be a couple of big items on someone else's scene in there. Sell the remainders in lots and break them into different price categories. Hope this helps. KTF Jas

SOUND STAGE 7 2587-Roscoe Shelton-Running for My Life-SOLD TO PIKEY!

Hello everyone! I've decided to give Soul Source first look at my northern soul 45s up for sale. I will tell you that they're all at the very least, suitable for deejaying purposes. If you have any further questions about the records, please PM me and I'll be glad to give you the best answers I can. As far as payment, I accept cash, in US dollars (at your own risk and I totally understand if you don't want to do it) or PayPal if you're more comfortable. PayPal is ususally quicker for everyone, even though I HATE THEM! My PayPal account name is: jason.thornton9@verizon.net or Payment address: JASON H. THORNTON 502 S. EAST AVE. BALTIMORE, MD 21224 USA Shipping is $6 for one 45 and $1 extra for each one added on. Orders over $125-shipping's on me! I'm mostly a collector, so these are just extra copies of records in my collection. I'm 100% honest and a stand-up guy, so you'll get your package sent out very quickly after I receive payment. The only thing that I have no control over is the postal system. Once a record leaves my hands and leaves the USA, there's nothing left I can do. So purchase at your own risk! But I will tell you that whatever you purchase will be what I describe to you. If you receive a 45 that you're genuinely displeased with, go ahead and send it back and I'll take care of you. I'll understand. If you require a scan or a soundfile before purchasing, I'll get you an JPEG and/or MP3 file-no problem. BRAND NEW BATCH! HAVEN'T OFFERED THESE YET! (1/11/05) CHECK 'EM OUT! A&M 1210-Robert John-Raindrops, Love and Sunshine-looks VG, but plays so beautifully, like EX! $44 ATLANTIC 2693-Archie Bell & the Drells-Here I Go Again-in strong VG+ condition with lots of gloss & plays great $14 FRISCO 110-Danny White-Miss Fine Miss Fine-VG+ and plays much better $54 LANDA 703-Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes-Get Out-G, but plays well with some background hiss $44 LECASVER 100-The Touch-Pick and Shovel (demo) VG++ and plays well $24 LIBERTY 54535 ALL TIME HIT SERIES-Timi Yuro-Insult to Injury-VG but still plays well $6 MADISON 147-Untouchables-Raisin' Sugar Cane-Strong VG, but plays EX! You should hear it! $44 MUSICOR 1139-Teardrops-You Won't be There-VG+ plays better $14 OKEH 7181-Major Lance-Crying in the Rain-VG with a few scuffs, but still has a lot of gloss $8 OKEH 7226-Major Lance-Too Hot to Hold-would be near mint, but the record has the beginnings of a crack, which is not audible. Still a beautiful copy with a perfect label. The crack is barely there. $14 PREMIUM STUFF 3-Fabulous Peps-So Fine/I'll Never Be the Same Again $9 SCEPTER 12125-Candy & the Kisses-Out in the Streets Again VG+ copy with the tiniest edge chip and drill hole. Plays like EX. Still a very nice copy. $94 SOLID HIT 107-Benny Poole-Pearl, Baby Pearl(Latin Boo-ga-loo) Almost VG++. Very nice copy $24 SOUND STAGE 7 2587-Roscoe Shelton-Running for My Life-VG+ vinyl issue with a few scuffs. plays great! $14 SUE 114-Baby Washington-It'll Never Be Over For Me-G+ copy that plays suprisingly well. This record has become so hard to find! $44 SYMBOL 214-Poets-She Blew a Good Thing-VG+ copy that looks and plays great! $24 TWIRL 2001-Young Sisters-Casanova Brown-VG++ demo with one scuff that doesn't affect the sound (xol) $14 UNITED ARTISTS 273-Marv Johnson-Happy Days-really strong VG+ and palys better. has tiny drill hole. $14. WAND 1143-Roscoe Robinson-How Much Pressure Do You Think I Can Stand-VG++ with cut out hole $10 THANKS FOR LOOKING! KTF Jas

For me it's got to be these: PYRAMID-SOUL BROTHERS, INC. UNDER THE STREET LAMP-EXITS MY PROPOSAL-SOUL, INC. BECAUSE OF YOU-JACKIE WILSON So many more, too. I just can't think of them. KTF Jas

Ohhhh yes, being in Baltimore-you've got to know "The Count" from Philadelphia. I used to see him on a regular basis at the record shows in Baltimore. He's down every month. He wants top dollar for everything, even if it's shite. once, he had $100 marked on a VG- copy of "Mary. Mary" by the Joneses! What the hell is THAT? He's a real character. You've got to meet him in person to get the full effect. I've got a decent relationship with the guy and yes he can be pretty nice, but he is definitely tripping out with his prices and grading. He must have it in his mind that Brits are stupid people with money falling out of their pockets and are dying to get their hands on his records. I've seen people cuss him out at record shows, telling him to never come by their table again. It just comes down to greed, though. He seems to think JM's book is the final word. Here's one for all of you: I bought a VG- copy of a Joey Heatherton demo from him for $30 after 3 months of beating him down from $60. About a year or so later, I picked up a stone mint demo in the picture sleeve and put the one I bought from him back in my sales box. He sees it in there and says he needs it for "some guy in the UK". So, I charged him $55.00 for it. His cash got "lost in the mail" and finally turned up. THEN I sent the record. I basically sold back to him an off-grade 45 for about double what he charged me. Serves him right. So as you can see, I don't do anything with this guy unless it's on my terms. That's the way you gotta play it. YOU tell HIM what you'll do or he can fack off. Without you guys, he won't do anything with these northern records. Next thing you know, he'll be trying to sell it you at your price. KTF Jas

I think the live act at a weekender is more the way to go. They could do their set kind of early-ish on Saturday. I don't like the idea of breaking up the music too much. I want to keep going. The LA weekender has been the only bonafide northern soul event that I have attended so far. I avoided a lot of the live perofmances, although I caught a few, but meeting the artists was a real highlight for me. Getting a hug and a kiss from Sandy Wynns was great, seeing Rufus Wonder, who is practically blind and hasn't been on stage since the 60s got up there, despite being a bit frightened. He sang about a minute or two of "Under the Moon" acapella and the crowd just clapped along. It was very moving actually. Jerry Williams did his thing a bit too casual with the record playing behind him. Still good to hear his voice, though. But Jimmy Conwell popping up on stage with a full zoot suit and putting a lot of energy into "That Beatin' Rhythm" was very entertaining! He really got the crowd going and put a smile on my face with his very enthusiastic effort. Seeing him do "You Got to Have Money" would have blown my mind! I wished they would have broke that one out. I still have to agree with many of the people on here about the subject. You want to hear the authenticity-you don't want to hear some watered-down version of the songs you love. Too many live performances would really grate on me. I've been going to oldies shows since I was 12 years old and the highlight was always meeting the artists afterwards and discussing music with them-the show was secondary. Sometimes you get these guys talking and they'll tell you great stories about all sorts of people, like how they were friends with other soul singers and how the records came to be-that's stuff I want to hear. But seeing these people glowing from all of the admiration from the soul fans is really satisfying. It's sad to think that there are a lot of these artists who may never realize how much we all appreciate their music. Jimmy Conwell just stopped me in the hall out of nowhere and said hello to me and I told him that "You've Got to Have Money" was one of my all time favorite records. That was a rush. It satisfied me to be able to thank him and it probably satisfied him to know that there was someone who loved one of his long-forgotten sides and told him to his face. I also met Jimmy Conwell's son and talked with Jimmy Radcliffe's son. Talking to the people was far more interesting to me. I think that if the right backing band with a northern soul state of mind when they played their instruments got behind the right artists who still had what it takes to entertain an audience, it would be more entertaining. And the sets could be kept short, to keep things rolling along. But to achieve this, you'd almost need an orchestra to get the full effect. So it could never be what we'd ultimately like it to be. KTF Jas

Great stories so far. Thanks you guys! I'm enjoying them quite a bit. And just what is it with records sometimes that the odder the people are, the better their records are. It's always the biggest hillbilly at a flea market that has all of the doo wop and northern soul 45s. I guess it's because a lot of these types are the ones who haul junk out of old houses and clear out people's storage units. They would be major pikeys to all of you. Dayo, looking forward to hearing about your colossal find that included Darrell banks on a UK London demo. I know there's more of you out there, too. I've had some good luck lately. One day about a month ago I got a crapload of rare 12" singles, including an original Elvis 45 on Sun of "Mystery Train", which I put in the picture sleeve for the Bangles "Hazy Shade of Winter" as to not draw too much attention. Then 15 minutes later, in another stall, I found two sealed copies of "Ice" by Frank Washington (big modern/boogie tune). I also just scored an original stereo pressing of the O'Jays "Soul Sounds" on Imperial with "I'll Never Forget You" (which has an almost different sound on the LP) and "Working On Your Case". Last night my friend brought a little pile of 45s over to give me in exchange for some graphic design. In that pile was a demo of Arnold Blair on Gemigo in great shape, Fabulous Emotions on Nico, "Whachersign" by Pratt & McLain, a Samantha Jones demo on UA. Not too shabby huh? Can't wait to hit the flea markets bright and early tomorrow morning! KTF Jas Post#100

I've gotta agree with Dayo. "Too Hot to Hold" is my favorite at the moment. It was tough for me to choose between "Investigate" and "You Don't Want Me No More", too. I'm also a big fan of "The Matador". I could go on... Damn decisions... KTF Jas

The musical arrangement on the Doni Burdick version is my favorite. I like big sounding stuff, so that's probably why. No doubt that Edwin Starr is a better singer overall though. I'd love to hear Doni's version in a large hall... For me, the ideal situation would have been JJ Barnes singing the vocal over the Doni Burdick arrangement with Doni's enthusiasm and pushed way up in the mix. No disrespect to Edwin Starr at all, but for me, the Doni Burdick is more "northern soul" sounding. I also love his version of "Open the Door to Your Heart". But it's a question of two things fitting together, too. Doni Burdick singing "Open the Door To Your Heart" over the backing track for the Darrell Banks version would sound weak as hell, I think. KTF Jas

Those are great stories you guys! Keep 'em coming! I know there are plenty more of you with cool stories like that. Many people don't realize that these are the bonuses of record collecting. It's the thrill of the hunt and the little stories and anecdotes you walk away with. Buying records on ebay will never be 5% as interesting. One of the reasons we're all still collecting. We're driven by these experiences. KTF Jas

I always enjoy hearing people's stories about finding records and the things they have to endure and the people they meet, just to get their hands on some sounds. I am always entertained by these anecdotes. I was listening to the Soulcast internet radio program and heard a great story from a guy who was in a bad part of LA and barely made the bus out of there with a Sam Fletcher Tollie in his hand. I also read a good one in Manifesto (I think) about a guy who searched through loads and loads of 45s owned by some flamer who was coming onto him while he was a guest in his house. I'll start it off with two of my own personal stories: FIRST ONE: Repeat of an earlier Soul Source post about records that changed my life. This also explains my introduction to northern: Summer of '91, I was running an ad in my local newspaper in Wheeling, West Virginia-where I grew up, advertising that I was looking for old records. So this woman calls me around 8pm on a Saturday evening, and I go to her place and it's a TOTAL hillbilly set-up. It's in a public housing project on a dead-end street in the worst part of town. There's garbage EVERYWHERE outside and the kids are running around, babies crying, dogs barking, etc. Anyway, I go in to this tiny kitchen area and this gross old fat woman brings out about 300 45s on a broomstick with cut-out pieces of newspaper between every single record. And the whole time, she's handing me little stacks and picking them up and bringing them up all the way over the stick and I'm peeling paper off and seeing all sorts of junk, like I expected. But then things started to look up. I grabbed every small-label odd-looking item I could find in any genre of music. So, by this time, it's dark and I'm hot as hell and finished in there. I give her a whopping $10 for about 50 records, which she was pleased with. So when I get home, I start playing these records and one of them happened to be a VG looking copy of "Sidra's Theme" that played very nicely. I was awestruck with this record immediately and played it again, much louder and got into it even more. Not more than a month or two later, I see the term "northern soul" for the very first time on a Craig Moerer Records by Mail sales list. I studied the hell out of the list not knowing what the term meant or what the common thread was between these 45s. As I realized that I had some of the records on the list, I listened to them and put the pieces together and made it my mission to learn about northern soul. It took me until 1994 to learn what it really was, because I got my first CDs of it. For the three years up to '94, I was almost completely on my own trying to pinpoint the sound, armed with about nothing except a Simon Soussan price guide I eventually got a hold of, which confirmed so many of my guesses of which records were northern but told me nothing about the history or the music itself. Of course, I eventually found out "Sidra's Theme" was considered northern soul. With no prior knowledge of any sub-culture, I continually sought out the sound, developed a keen ear for it. The more that I learned about the dancing and culture, I realized that this was for me and never looked back. Now I'm hooked for life and loving it! SECOND STORY: Getting Records in the middle of the night under weird circumstances... Back in 1992, I used to put on a suit just about every Saturday afternoon and DJ wedding reception after wedding reception playing crappy music, to earn money while I was in college. I hated it, but the money was good. Anyway...I'm driving down the road to do the job and I'm going into hillbilly country heading toward this small Ohio town. On my way, I see some junkman who was apparently living in a school bus on the side of the road selling all sorts of stuff, like bicycles, tools, furniture and whatever..I thought "shit-I can't pull over and look because I've got to get to the damn reception hall!" I wondered if he had any records. So after the reception was over and I was on my way home, THERE HE WAS! 1130pm at night and he's still out there selling stuff. Needless to say, I pulled over. I walked up to his little school bus home and asked him if he had any records and he said "yeah! come on in!" So I go into the bus and he's got a whole setup going on in there. TV playing Saturday Night Live above the driver's seat, a table, food, dishes, a bed in the back...there's crap EVERYWHERE! So I'm standing in the middle of the bus with my suit on and he's tearing the place apart looking for records and he turns up about two Elvis records, so I said "is that all you've got" He said "come back later I'll get some more out for you." I'm like "later? are you sure? It's gonna be about 1am!" He said to just come on back anyway so I went home and unloaded my DJ gear and got my two friends and we headed back out to hillbilly country in the middle of the night to go check out the man in the bus for the records. (It sounds like a shady drug deal doesn't it? I mean-you would have thought we were buying moonshine or something.) So we pull up to the bus and all the lights are out and I'm like "oh man..." Then he pops up in the window and says "hold on I'll be right out!" So he comes out with a flashlight and we follow him around the bus behind some weeds and bushes on this short path-it's pitch black and you can only see the light from the flashlight and literally all you can hear are crickets. We walk up to this little tool shed and he starts digging around and pulls up this decent sized box of 45s that are all near mint and all primo 50s rock and roll and r&b, goreous webbed top checker labels, chess, sun, etc. got an entire lot from him at $30-what a bargain! We thanked him and headed off to get a bite at an all nite diner. Not the best record finds of my life but definitely one of the most interesting vinyl hunting experiences ever. Getting 45s in the woods at 1am totally rules! KTF Jas

I'm with Andy D. on this one. i'd like to see the scans. And on a side note: what does the "SIMON BACK" mean in the thread subtitle? Is Soussan back from exile? KTF Jas skeptical....

Goes without saying that "Pyramid" is tops, but I think Troy Keyes 'If I Had My Way" deserves a mention, along with "Lord What's Happening to Your People". I love those intros! One that cracks me up is "To Get You Back Again" by Karen Small on Venus. Anybody know that one? This voice says "Is he the one that broke your heart?" It sounds like a man barely trying to sound like a woman, in an almost joking way. I have to replay it at least tow or three times every time it comes on in my car. This stuff cracks me up sometimes. KTF Jas Suprised no one has mentioned Moonlight, Music and You/What Shall I Do

Brilliant post, Rob. This confirms what I've always thought crossover soul was and actually gave me a history of how it came to be popular. You never hear about these things. It's mostly talk about Wigan and regular 60s northern. Thanks for that! KTF Jas

Thanks for the info on the Stormie Wynters 45. I guess seeing an actual scan of the Sapians record would tell the tale. Interesting story about that group anyway. Looking forward to the Stormie soundfile! KTF Jas

Gene, Gotta confess-I was the one who was pushing that record. It was because just like you said "people's perceptions of northern soul" are sometimes different. I have actually heard records classed as northern that sound similar to that one, so I figured I'd at least give it a shot. All of the comments about the tune were fair and justified. I knew it was a stretch, but you never know what people want sometimes. Hence the question mark I put after "newie". I'm not clueless about northern(like many Americans) at all, but I've been suprised by what people are into on this scene sometimes. Personally, I wouldn't play it out somewhere, but I can't help but keep one around as a curiosity piece-even though it isn't bona-fide northern. It looks like a monster though. Nice label anyway. But I think some people on this forum will vouch for my good taste in music. KTF Jas