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Really enjoyed that track. I'll be on the lookout for a copy for my collection. KTF Jas

no problem Dodger-you're in! KTF Jas

Ok. As it stands, the following people have shown interest in the swap: Tony Turner Sebastian petebangor Awake 502 docfish EmJayGee alison steveh73 CUNNIE vnicepce topdraweruk Alex Subinas That's 12 people. I guess I'll make this Friday the 29th the cut-off date. That way, maybe a few others can get in on it, too. Once Friday rolls around, we'll get cracking on things. I'll give two weeks from that date to complete the projects. That should give people plenty of time. August 12th will be the mail-out date. If you want mail before that date, please feel free. Once again, the musical criteria isn't strict, but the thrust is mostly modern soul from the early 80s and boogie sounds. While making my CD, I'm doing my best to stay with independent labels and making sure I'm not just putting on all-out disco stuff and 80s funk. I'm trying to find soulful singing wherever I can. Like I said before, drum machines are fine with me. That's more to the boogie end of things I guess. Your selections can be tinged with funk, disco, electro or whatever. Also, if you feel like putting on a few contemporary sounds here and there, I see no harm in that. My CD is going to be geared toward early 80s sounds, but you can take it in your own direction. If anybody has questions, feel free to PM me here at Soul Source or e-mail me at: jazzyjas@bellsouth.net Thanks everyone! KTF Jas PS. I've had a couple of folks say to me "What the hell IS boogie anyway?" I'll put up a separate post in "All About the Soul" referring to this topic. I'll do my best to give my own interpretation. Maybe others can add on what they know and correct me in case I'm wrong about some things.

I'm in love the song "I'm Back for More" Got it by Al Johnson & Jean Carn, Leo's Sunshipp, Marlena Shaw...any others out there? I'd like to know. On the 6ts side of things, I absolutely HATE that version of "Baby Hit and Run" by the Contours that's on Cellarful of Soul V.1. The original Tamla Motown well-known version blows that away! What an utter waste of time. They could have put "Spellbound" by Martha and the Vandellas or some other thing on that disc. Then there's those recycled backing tracks: 2. Lighten Up-Ty Karim 3. Go For Yourself-Larry Laster 4. Somebody Somewhere Needs You-Ike & Tina Personally, I rate Ty Karim as the best vocal performance out of that lot. But Larry Laster seems pointless after the other two, I think. Ty Karim is a true "northern soul" artist. Then "To Much"-Jimmy Conwell vs. "Bettin' On Love"-Len Jewell I'll take either one. Like 'em both. As for "I Watched You Slowly Slip Away", I'm sticking with Howard Guyton's version. It's a much more sophisticated arrangement with top musicians. That was the nice thing about Verve. Even the pop records had top guys like Chick Correa and other jazz players on them. Just listen to that Howard Tate LP. Total class. Not taking away from Lou Courtney, cause he's great, but that little slab of Verve wax can't be beat. KTF Jas

Apart from the many great Chi-Lites recordings, I thought "Overdose of Joy" was a fantastic record. RIP Eugene. KTF Jas

Hello Pete. You've always got a lot to offer. That tune is no exception. It's absolutely fantastic and I can't see why anyone who appreciates roots music would think it's shite. Also, in the predictable world of blues, it's hard to find good dancing records. Betty James on Chess and only a small handfull of others. That was a gem. Thanks. Proof there's more to life than just soul. KTF Jas

Glad to see more on board. I've got the "Lucky Man" 12" on Rojac, but "I Got It" is the tune I'm after of course. Just sold Kim Tolliver on Tayster "Party Lights". That one is decent. KTF Jas

Wow! Got people coming out of the woodwork for this swap. Glad to see people showing up. To answer the question about styles and what acceptable, I would say that going back before the 80s is definitely ok. I guess you would be looking for music that might have sounded too contemporary for its time to be like older 70s crossover, even if was made in the 70s. If your selections have a few included that are tinged with funk, that's also ok. Drum machines are also definitely permitted. I've got some sounds I'm looking for, too. -Krisp "Sunlight" on Indigo -Vance & Suzanne on Vanton -Panache -Moses-Live to Love (or is it Love to Live?) comes on a Silver label -Master Force on Rain Forest AND A FEW THAT ARE MORE NORTHERN that may or may not fit the format: -Treasure Mind -Big Mouth Woman -King Moses-I Got the Feeling -Beverly & Duane -Natural Impulse-She Went Away (Ali's dream record) On to the next issue...how to deal with the swap. It occurred to me that I've asked people to swap with me personally, which is one thing, but I didn't stop to think that others might have thought that everyone involved was going to swap. I'll send CDs to anyone, but the question is-do you want to all swap with each other too? I could go either way with how we're doing it. Let me know how you all would like to do this so that we're on the same page. I'll start getting a list of addresses together. If everyone involved is swapping, I'll also try to be relaxed on the deadline to join in. KTF Jas

I'm in the process of putting together a nice collection of rare boogie and modern soul tracks for a personal CD. So far, I've got things like: Aaron Broomfield on Mountain (both) Frank Washingtn on Studio II Revue Jaymz Bedford on Gold Mink Clausel on Upright First Class on Park-Way Pretty much everything that I've been putting on so far has been from the early 80s. I'm doing my best to stick to rare stuff and independent labels, but we'll see how it progresses. I'm also open to music that uses drum machines, so bring it on. If you have stuff like that and would like to do a swap, speak up and let's get it going. The stuff you put on doesn't have to be dog rare either, let's just have some fun with it. I love bona fide 60s northern soul just as much as the next guy and gal, but I also enjoy the boogie sounds. I noticed a small handfull of others on here like it too. Would like to hear from those folks. I'm sure Awake and Johnny N. & Ali might have a few nice 80s sounds to scrounge together. How about Jocko? Anyone? Would love to hear from some other members. KTF Jas PS. Does anyone have "Sunlight" by Krisp on Indigo? How about Tolbert?

I agree very much with what Billy Freemantle has to say. I really believe that a "well-placed" oldie of high quality every so often is nice. Having variety of GOOD stuff is the key. I honestly believe that if you announce exactly what you do and play progressive sounds that the right people will show up. It may take months, but if you stick with it, it can happen. In my ideal world, I'd love to hear some things that I've never heard every hour, alongside some good oldies every so often. I would hope when a buzz is created by the talk of the smarter folks that appreciate progressive sounds, the punters could very well follow suit. Even a good group of guys and gals on this site alone can create a buzz. There are some people on this site who have great musical taste, so if they could round up some like minded folks... You're all so lucky that you have enough interest to even do these nights. In the states, you can't pull this off. Crossover is virtually impossible, too. When I lived in Baltimore, I had access to Subway Soul Club every month in NYC. I never went-even considering the fact I would always be in town that very day for a record fair. I could have easily gone but I knew there wouldn't be a great amount of northern being played. Maybe a few oldies here and there probably being played from CDs. The majority would be what I call "workout" records (borrowing that phrase from Greg Surek). Boogaloo 25 Corners Shingaling parts 3 4 and 5 by the Funky Junky Soul Brothers Band. Leaves me cold. SCREW THAT! If it would have been quality northern soul, I would have been there...every month-every year. What's my point? Point is-if you've got something really good going on, do your best to keep it going. The right people will catch on and make your night what you envisioned. They'll be willing to travel I would think. If the NYC thing would have been up to standard-I would have gone the distance no problem. The true fans of what you do should make it out to your gig. I can only hope it would be financially viable for you because too many times in Baltimore, I've had to suffer with poor attendance for trying to do things my way. I've even got up and said f-you! and walked out and left no music playing. It's my way or the highway! Stick to your guns and play what you want. If you don't is it really worth doing? Then you're a jukebox. Hope it works out for you and never ever play the Snake! KTF Jas, (speaking respectfully from the US. Hope I'm not speaking too far out of my element, not being from the UK) Best of luck!

hey everyone-i've got one for you: "Don't Spread It Around" on Jamie Anyone into that one? I love that track. That deserves a spin or two. KTF Jas

try looking up people from golden state soul club in california. they have him perform regularly at dos they put on. i'm sure they could link you up with him. KTF Jas

For me the holy trinity of disco is: PRELUDE WEST END SALSOUL I've got about 90 12" singles on Salsoul and I admit some are label fillers. But my favs are: LOGG-YOU'VE GOT THAT SOMETHING FIRST CHOICE-LET NO MAN PUT US UNDER AURRA-CHECKING YOU OUT CLAUDIO SIMONETTI-I LOVE THE PIANO INSTANT FUNK-CRYING LOVE COMMITTEE-JUST AS LONG AS I'VE GOT YOU-GOLD MIND (sub. of Salsoul) But overall, I think that the West End and Prelude catalogs have some better material. All those labels have their fair share of junk though. KTF Jas

RE: the DelChords... Correct. Dave Bupp was in that group and those guys went on to be Magnificent Men. The record was issued first on Mr. Genius and then on Impala records. I have both copies. To be quite honest, I bought it years ago for the ballad side. I still think that it's a fine example of soulful doo wop. After losing interest in doo wop and gaining interest in northern, I started flipping all of these records over. It worked for the Augustine Twins, but "Your Mommy Lied to Your Daddy" doesn't do it for me at all. "Everybody's Gotta Lose" is a killer. Let me know if you all want a sound file. Dave-getting a record together for the "terrible" swap. KTF Jas

Dan...the Faulkner record is hilarious! I almost pissed my pants on that one! He almost sounds like some gay pimp. So bad it's good. You almost wonder if it was a joke. I'm definitely interested in that 45 if it's not too expensive. Would like to have it just as a novelty. KTF Jas

Great intro? Barbara Mason? HAS to be "You Better Stop"! Agreed. Killer intro. Love that one. KTF Jas ps. now about this "In School" business. Sound file?

Pete... What can I say! Fantastic little set. Enjoyed that thoroughly. Thanks! KTF Jas (playing it a second time.)

Link to Incomplete Clip of "I'm Sure" https://home.comcast.net/~recordmanx/two_plus_two-im_sure.mp3 Enjoy! KYF Jas

Since I don't have deep pockets and credit cards, would it be possible for someone to post high quality MP3 files or send me a CD of "I'm Sure" and "Look Around" by Two Plus Two on Velgo? Both sides are killer and I can't get enough of them. KTF Jas

Little Stevie, Give these a try: 1. INTIMATE CONNECTION-KLEER 2. HANGIN' ON A STRING-LOOSE ENDS 3. ALL THIS LOVE-DEBARGE 4. KEEP RISIN' TO THE TOP-KENI BURKE 5. DON'T TELL ME TELL HER-ODYSSEY 6. NO ONE'S GONNA LOVE YOU-S.O.S. BAND 7. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME-NEW BIRTH 8. MAKE ME A BELIEVER-LUTHER VANDROSS 9. DON'T YOU KNOW THAT-LUTHER VANDROSS 10. KEEPIN' LOVE NEW-HOWARD JOHNSON 11. TELL ME HOW IT FEELS-52ND STREET 12. FEELS SO REAL (MY MIND WON'T LET GO)-PATRICE RUSHEN 13. ALL NIGHT LONG-MARY JANE GIRLS !!!!!!!!! 14. NEVER AS GOOD AS THE FIRST TIME/SWEETEST TABOO-SADE 15. I'VE GOT MY SECOND WIND/BACK FOR MORE-AL JOHNSON I'll drop more on you later. PM me with your address and I'll send some music over. KTF Jas

THE RARE SOUL SUPER "X FORCE" I've read through this whole thread and have come to the conclusion that being the guru of soul can't fall on just one person. There are people on the list who have their reasons for being included. Godin and John Anderson are like forefathers, while others continue on to the future. Then there are other people who have their niches, like the modern guy in the UK or the soul harmony guy in the US, plus the other gurus of northern. It would be great if all those people who are still around could get together and make the ultimate soul reference books. Then for pricing, get a consensus of ALL the top dealers, not just Tim Brown or just John Manship and better yet, the people that actually buy these records for even more unbiased opinions. (Nearly impossible though.) Sorry for the tangent, but I think of it more like these guys are the X-Men and each one has a specialty (you all will probably name Manship or Levine as Magnito). People like Godin and Anderson are more like the ones who get the lifetime achievement awards. And by the way, Soussan has done nothing more than supply records for quick profit and rip off many people along the way. And also by the way, Shalamar made much better music after he was gone. He then had another go at it over here in the states with his low budget vanity press book that he called a price guide. Remember that? What a jerk. He took money from so many people and didn't deliver the products. As for landmark achievements on the northern scene-so what!. Give that credit to Frank Wilson instead of him. He sang the song. SS only wishes he could be on the list. He could name more enemies than titles of soul records. Narrowing it down to one person is nearly impossible. You become a guru from absorbing knowledge from many others throughout your life. A guru doesn't have to be a DJ or a dealer to qualify, he could even be a punter with a vast amount of knowledge and passion for soul. But I guess being all or some of those things does bring the experience. I respect a lot of people on that list for their love of soul and for their knowledge. I would love to learn more from any of these people. Some people that I know consider me a guru because of my 27 years experience. But I humbly refuse that title because it takes time, passion and dedication. I'm still learning and years from becoming a bona fide guru in my opinion. So much more to learn. KTF Jas ps. It's Greg Surek. And he names off records I've never heard of on a regular basis. Don't know where he finds this stuff sometimes.

REALLY disappointed about the CD overall . There a couple of decent producers on here as far as doing their own work, but this stuff just doesn't cut it for me. I didn't mind the Marvin Gaye all that much and the producer who did the Supremes remix is probably the most creative and the only one with any trace of musical talent. Still doesn't change the fact that I really didn't get into that one either. The remix that offended me the most was "Mary Jane". It was extra corny like some "down-south" ghetto-ass L'il Jon beats. Too right about the intros too. Not one song comes on strong like the true spirit of Motown recordings. They all take forever to build. You've already lost interest before they get it going, which dissapoints again. Thumbs Down! KTF Jas

just curious...what adam wade record are you all talking about? is it "rain from the skies"? If so, I must agree that it's not for the soul scene at all. nice bacharach song-but it's popcorn..not northern AT ALL. adam wade's catalog in general is like low-rent lenny welch as far as i'm concerned. never heard the joey scarbury or the dianne steinberg either. i'll get around to it eventually. got SOUL records to listen to you know? KTF Jas ps. hey ali.. for just a split second, i thought i found a natural impulse 45 the other day. alas it was some other record with a similar looking label. i would have crapped myself it really was natural impulse. thanks for pointing that track out. i really like it.

Citations on Ballad a warehouse quantity record. Always some around. Check Craig Moerer for it. KTF Jas

Ashford & Simpson for me. KTF Jas