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I'm not really a live act type person, much prefer the Niter not to be interupted by any singers usually, but there's a few times ( and surprised nobodys mentioned them already) Ric-Tic review @ Hinkley Leisure Centre Fabulous Peps/Magnetics @ Stables (rumours of a possible return? go if you missed them last time, or live with the regret forever ) Terry Callier @ Trentham Lorraine Chandler ( and Eddie Parker) @ Top Of The World Stafford these are of course all live acts during Niters, but in concert, Michael Jackson @ Aintree was amazing, Lionel Ritchie " Dancing on the Ceiling" tour @ NEC just brilliant, in fact the NEC has had some fab concerts for soul fans, inc a Motown nite with multiple acts, but even tho we've seen all the obvious acts (Temps, Dells, Impressions, Diana, Whitney, Luther, etc through to the stunningly brilliant Dean Parrish) the only one to come close to topping Edwin on his best day was Alexander O'Neal. My theory is that his immensely deep chest is the engine room for that awesome range of notes which he can hold for what seems like hours, and the only reason he's not held as one of the all time greats is that he came to our attention in the 80's. Oh, as a footnote, why has no one mentioned the Major? surely seen by more fans than anyone else in the first decade of our scene?

Also, think the other Back Beat's I've got have the promotional information on the right hand side ???? https://rateyourmusic.com/release/single/jeanette_williams__randb_/somethings_got_a_hold_on_me___longing_for_your_love/

I completely disagree with the above. The Boots which I remember from the 70's had the phrase "promotional not for sale" on the left hand side of the All Of A Sudden side, but the font looks 'wrong' (when compared to the font they used for genuine promo's) Most have a mottled look to the red where they were left out to weather, but the people involved didn't notice it had started to rain

I was never really bitten by the British label bug, so given the choice the USA one would stay and the UK one would go for me, but I understand for many it's the complete opposite. Years back I had a pristine gold issue label copy of the Delegates of Soul as well as a " previously loved " white label copy ( which doesn't actually say promotional on it but I assume thats what it is) and when i needed funds for another purchase i asked my old mate Blue Max which one he'd keep and which one he'd sell. Immediately he said " well, that one has had a life, it's not been kept away from a stylus, makes it proper" I sold the mint issue for £60 and the scruffy white one still oives with me and I couldnt be happier, we've been through some times together and i'm not afraid to handle it with a sweaty paw when I've played it out in the heat of a Niter...... but having said all that I still am happy to pay a premium, say up to 10% over the top for an unplayed copy of some wants. Just doesn't make any sense does it, collecting Rare Soul

I'm totally with Ted, this fabulous tune clears dance floors quicker than one of JW's farts

I have to admit when Mike first started this site I was a reluctant joiner. I'd had so much fun out of the old Soul Talk list that I thought we were going to lose rather than gain when Mike set this up. How wrong could I have been ?! I changed my home page to Soul-Source within a week of joining and that's how it's remained ever since, much to my wife's anger Here's to another 16 years mate, though I doubt we'll all be around to witness it, but if we are I hope we're still argueing about whether it's a legal second issue or just a bootleg, or that a rave review by the promoter of a venue isn't worth the megabytes it's written on. (also congrats to all the folk, past & present, who've stood as Mods, the single most thankless task ever)

Sometimes the landlord insists that you let " their friends/family/regulars" in for a late drink, as part of the agreement to book the room, and with the number of good rooms available shrinking all the time, maybe we just have to put up with it? Besides, I'm not sure I want a squeaky clean, sanitized, perfectly safe environment for the scene I attend? I dont drink alcohol so I'm not saying this from a point of need, but It was never thus, so why are we trying to change the rules part way through the game? Back when most Niters were soft drinks only, enough gallons of spirits were smuggled in to fill the Pacific Ocean Please don't "genteel up" a scene that has always been rough and ready. Virtually all clubs I've been to have their share of men who will resolve genuine difficulties if there's no paid security (which I agree with Chalky, should be on every door) I do like the idea of a large sign saying late admission/non members £ (followed by some inflated price), as that lets the door staff off any arguements.

Doubt I'd sell it, but what sort of offer would you make to buy my copy?

2 good sides. How would you pronounce the name of the artist ? (maybe Shan-Tony?) Kinda hard to DJ a record if you can't pronounce the name ;-)

Unless things have changed I'd have thought anything up to 30-40 quid, though I have seen people ask up to 200 (why?) Nice tune, but is it only of interest to label collectors? or is somebody playing it, which we all know can lead to a dramatic ( and short-lived) price hike. If its the RCA label collectors, then without doubt the stock issue will be the more desirable one, probably worth double the demo's. Worth checking out is their "Back Up ( against your persuasion)", which seems to have a decent collectable following with the midtempo & crossover crowds. I presume they're Canadian only release?, or should that be "not on 45 in the US or UK"? ( that "Back Up" 45 seems to sell for more than "Long Time", maybe 75+ ?) hth

I tried playing this for a while at the Lea Manor Albrighton, when would that be, about fifteen years back? (were you back living up here then Pete?) It did okay and always drew dance floor action, but for records to break out in that era you needed another DJ to be playing it as well, and can't remember any of the other Albrighton Boys playing it? Not saying it was rare, but when so many other underplayed/forgotten & not known/new tunes were vying for attention, it's easy to give them the " 3 spin wonder " treatment ( think this lasted longer than that tho) For clubs which championed Soul & the original explanation of " Across The Board", this type of sound fitted in perfectly, nestled in as it was amongst the 60's R'n'B stompers,the Y2K modden movers, the Detroit dancers and the ol' Mecca Magic 70's :-) but having said all that I didn't know there'd been a previous 45 on New Voice

Mace, can you let us know what the prices were before you wrote SOLD or RESERVED ? as per the guidelines ;-) 6. Do NOT remove any details from the ads after selling [or obtaining a want]. You can edit to show "SOLD" but leave the ad intact please as the information therein contributes to a database other members can refer to when looking up current prices, availability etc

I seem to remember this label first showing up mid to late 80's, can anybody fill in the info, the who, where when & why. How many releases? 401 Metros " Whats wrong with your love/ She's not everybodys girl" 402 Nelson Sanders " It's real / I hold the key" 403 Doni Burdick " Candle / Whatcha gonna do "

Wolverhampton had it's own Rollerdrome, just a few yards down from the Catacombs, and it was there that many of us congregated in our youth. Blue Max did northern disco's in there, as well as others, but they regularly played soul amongst the playlist when folk were skating ( it always had a live DJ playing records) and apart from certain favourites like "Glad All Over" the tunes were largely black music, thanks in no small part to Winston who became the main DJ They booked a number of live acts, always to pretty full houses (from Gary Glitter to Limmie & Family Cookin) but one great memory was when Al Green was playing at another club in the same street (The Pink Elephant?) he came into the coffee bar of the Rollerdrome as we were in there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3qd0bFzAuM

I could be wrong but the JayBoy release wasn't exactly a reissue (because it was a different, slower, meatier, take ??? or was it just messed up in the mastering ?? ) also another note worth making is that the (fabulous) instrumental version only showed up on the Contempo releases I think? (the lucky Germans got a pic sleeve with their Contempo release) All others, inc non US or UK releases all seem to share the same flip (I'll Keep Running Back") Having said all that, these days I think " Oh Baby Doll " just edges it out as my favourite by the pair.

Somebody was asking for a Shirelles LMM either on the wants section here or on FB wants, in the last week or so hth

Dont know Spencers tune, but could it be "The Breaking Point " by Deena Johnson on Wild Deuce 1004 ? also a version by Brad Lundy I think?

Something in the back of my mind keeps nagging me. Years ago I was in a record bar conversation (at the original Bretby I think it was) about alternative takes being released by mistake and I vaguely remember being told that Motown had released two different takes of this track. Maybe one was on a Canadian 45, or one was on the promo's and not the issues. Anyway I seem to remember somebody saying to me that they'd played me the two versions and I'd commented that the one version was " More Northern ". Does anybody know about these different takes or am I talking complete nonsense, or getting mixed up with another song called "Goddess....." Help !!

You sold it to me Ted.....for more than £30

I remember the shock that went around years back (90's maybe) when somebody sold a Lenny Curtis bootleg for seventy pounds. Honestly I don't see any difference in somebody selling off old bootlegs for a fiver, thirty quid or seventy quid or eight hundred quid. Where is the line at which point the soul fraternity jumps up in alarm and says " we must protect the fools from paying too much for a bootleg" ? Is it too much to pay 20 pounds for an old boot? what about 40 quid is that too much? Is the line that shouldn't be crossed at £99 ? At the end of the day the seller is offering an illegal item for much more than what was originally paid back in the 70's - so the amount the buyer pays is only relevant to them. Unless you have some emotional attachment beyond monetary value, they are valueless Sorry if my logic has spoiled all these " Shock, Horror" tabloid type threads 2 s

Why is everyone assuming the buyer isn't aware it's a boot/2nd issue - just because they've paid rather a lot of money for it ? Last "proper" one that I saw go through ebay about a year back was 4616, so maybe the buyer just wants one that looks the same, and is happy to have paid a tenth of what the "proper" one fetched ? I think there's more than just a few who like to pretend they've got " real " records when they've only got lookalikes, and this pressing is a case of 'looks the same at a distance' (try asking some so called DJ's if you can look at their records when they take them off the decks, as I've done, and often they don't want to show you because they know you're calling them out on playing boots) Last thought, in every walk of life you pay to learn. If it is a case of an ill informed buyer then they've paid to learn. Equally they could have bought a bootleg guide which would have cost somewhat less but again it wouldn't have been free, so they'd have paid to learn that way too. Anybody who's collected for any amount of time has been 'turned over', not always on purpose by the seller, but be honest if you've never bought a boot for a real record then my guess is you never lived through the scene in the 70's because we were all conned back then. The onus is on the buyer, there's been thousands of examples of misinformation on ebay since it started, we've discussed hundreds on this forum, smart folk as questions, and if you don't ask, then bid 300 in hope, you are a fool. My favourite quote to apply to any transaction, not just records, is " If something looks too good to be true, it usually is ". 300 for a real Tomangoes ? Do me a favour....

If only they'd had Laptop's to DJ with in Hitlers day. He'd have been alright then....

I just had my laptop go a bit mental and it opened my email programme in about half a dozen windows???? seems like a virus to me the screen shot was grabbed from my inbox, so yes i opened the original email. worried of wolves

Thanks for that info Mick. Hope you are well

So have we all allowed access to our email accounts by opening this email? have all of us who read it now got this problem?