Dave

Any particular reason mate?

Funny you should mention that Dan My youngest son listened to The Snake so much he knew all the words by the time he was 9 Don't know where he got hold of it in the first place mind.....

Then does it need a promoter to set out to attract new blood and make it clear that's what a given event is about?.....and if the once-a-month oldies brigade don't like it....they can stay away. Certain promoters have had the courage of their convictions and approached music policy in this way.....why not "audience policy"?

Fair points there Shane. Surely they are not all out on the pull though....some must be in couples and perhaps prefer not to have the "chatting up" business. I would guess that most of the Casino punters mid 70's were 17-23 and obviously it was easier to fit into that sort of scene, but we've got to accept that's no longer the case by a long chalk and find a way for it to happen. Like we've said it's happened at CIS

I'm sure you are right Paul, about there being plenty who are sick of what goes with commercial clubs....thing is, unless they've got a soulie mate such as you, how do they get to know about our scene?

That's a very good summary, Paul. You are right...the real question is - how do we actively go about attracting more youngsters to try and avoid Dave Abbot's vision? (and I happen to think Dave will be proven right if things don't change quite drastically) I said on another thread that the most youngstersI have seen has been at the CIS nighters and you have mentioned the quality of the venue. Is that the major factor that has attracted yourself and other youngsters? Thinking about it, I have taken my sons to certain well appointed venues but there are other places that I go to without giving it a thought, where I know they wouldn't want to go. Look at the difference between the social club/hall type places that we all attend from time to time and the multitude of plush music bars/clubs that are available to the early 20's and you can see which is going to be the most attractive to anyone with no great musical preference....chicken and egg situation cos if you don't get em in they aint gonna hear and grow to love the music! Promoting venues and indeed the scene with free CDs is another good idea....god knows they are cheap enough to knock out.....so why not take the risk of giving a few out with flyers IN ADVANCE of an event, not just on the door Dave

As you know Paul, I think the more youngsters there are, the better the scene will get. Most seem more open minded and receptive to new and varied music. And it can't be that difficult for anyone to have a quiet word re etiquette rather than growling, can it? Dave PS it might be best if you don't bring big Colin though

I thought Shane hadn't got a car since the accident? Isn't that why you and Mark always drive?

So "you do agree" with me then, Shane?

Good for you Shane!

Wasn't trying to ruffle you mate No, I don't agree....there is as much "Wigan attire" on the general scene below the midlands as above IMHO And I used to see more young soulies at CIS than anywhere. Dave

Wasn't trying to score points, just answering your post....note the smilies.

Thanks for your help Right...generally, events in the South, and midlands too, have their fair share of "fancy dress". If you are talking solely of Valatone and the 100, then you need to compare like with like, e.g Sheridans....not many Spencers at either. There is an element of young mod types who attend the London events but they form no greater proportion than the "younger soulies" such as yourself, Rachel et al who frequent Sheri's. Dave

I'll go back and a have a look, shall I?

Some of us are lucky enough to have never been to Nuneaton Trawling means dragging a net from a boat to catch fish. Trolling means dragging a lure behind a boat for the same purpose.....but the fish have to actively bite

Got to disagree there Rachel... 1. The atmosphere is more consistently friendly in the North of the country. 2. I think some do play records just because they're rare, at the expense of quality "cheaper" material. All IMHO

So if the dividing line runs through Sheffield, which of you Dee-dahs are shandy drinking Southerners?

Cato's been typing that for about half an hour

Joe Jama. Joseph Webster, Margaret Little etc etc.....they're forgotten oldies are they?

Don't start with the footie Steve or we might as well give up on the original idea now

Great news mate Get an event on every week!

Not three times a month if it's in Manchester, for example, Steve (Strangely I think one of the three shares a birthday with the guy Stuart was talking about )

PLEASE tell us it's not too far North Andy!!!!