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Very well put, but I fear your hopes will be dashed.. there are too many old scrotes who are suspicious of anyone under 35 who has not passed the NS written exam I hope for the sake of you and others like you a scene develops without the word "northern" attached that many current "soulies" will not want to attend.. then you may have a chance of newcomers discovering the music.

Like I said, it's irrelevant to the people Steve was talking about. Not to our generation, but that's a different matter.

Good post Ste. You're right about the irrelevance of whether a tune was played in the 70s, well known to us or rare.. to the younger people the music is all relatively new. The type of venue you mention will begat a new, almost seperate, "scene" IMO.. one that will not attract to many of the seniors who atend now. Smart, city centre venues with no strict rules on what can be played.. soul, funk, R&B, Jamaican, house all in the same room. Events where the word northern is absent; where there is no anorak mentality, no " ns etiquette" and no pissing contests about who played what first.. bit like the scene in Europe really. These people are not going to go to village halls, miners welfare clubs and the like.. that will be the last refuge of the current elite, those who want to keep it "underground". I was interested to read in another post that Stoke was "full" of youngsters: How full? 15? 20?

Anybody got a scan of the original? thanks

As usual a potentially interesting subject is rendered as dull as ditch-water by self-interest and promotion.

Great thread thread this, about a musical era I find very interesting. Geoff, you should write a book

Thanks for pointing us to those Pete. The first one contains some top quality soul music...proving it wasn't just pop shite played there, as some would have us believe. Agree with you also about the Cleethorpes "modern".. what sets it apart is that it has some urgency!

OK, since you asked... the Sam Williams version is the best for me. I often find it the case that the "alternative" versions of well loved records have novelty value, but not the quality of the "standard". All very subjective, I know.

Why go to a pub when you can go somewhere just as close where the beer is probably cheaper, you can hear music that reminds you of your youth and you're not out of place wearing 70s fashions?

Indeed they do.. but IMHO, not the folks I listed.

Pretty much true.. except that you can't buy taste.

Agreed Jock re Kitch. And there's probably plenty more if we thought hard enough, so a question that springs to my mind is this: Why, when soul nights put on the one guest of the evening, do they not employ one of these guys, rather than their mate from 50 miles away with the same records as the host? Maybe because the mate brings two car loads of oldies fans and will return the compliment of the guest invite. Sad state of affairs IMO.

Butch, Mick, Sam, Carl Fortnum, Paul Sadot, Karl Heard, Carl Willingham, Dyson, Trouble, Dean Anderson. There.. thats 10 to be getting on with. I expect you could be the next pope as well, if you had the latin, eh?

Don't like this. Have bought from the vendor, and vaguely know the buyer. Having said that.. I take Lars to be the straight guy.

No.. it was "Are You Ready For This" and its from the LP "Disco Soul".

Agreed re Pointer Sisters. It was only relatively recently I realised it wasn't a late 60's track. Crow was played regularly at Cleethorpes and other venues down the eastern side of the country. Heard it played at various nighters in the last couple of years, including the 100 club.

What you doing with a typist in you? Does your husband know about this?

You forgot Jackie Wilson, Pat and The Blenders, Carla Thomas and one or two more. Just out of interest, I wonder how many of these tunes would still sound a bit fresher than they do now, if there was no such thing as "reissues", boots, vinyl-carver jobs and CD's in NS venues??

I missed most of the show, but surely Sam Moore was DJing at Spondon? Unfortunately I did not miss the Winehouse/Weller offering of Grapevine... truly awful! :angry:

Oh dear! Get ready to duck! Bit hungover today Trev?

Spot on Kev!

If you think that, why does it apply only to new stuff? Can't really see it as "tailor-mades" myself. Like I said, I've never really thought it was much of an issue.

It's not for me or anybody else to say what's right ot wrong, but I personally find part of the attraction of some records is that you can only hear them where certain DJs are playing. If they get churned out regularly at "local" events off boots they lose that freshness for me. As far as DJing goes, it's down to the individual DJ and the promoter what's played IMO, but I tend to prefer attending events where OV is played.

I'd never really given it a lot of thought, but no I don't really think it's "mis-representative".. different people have different ideas of how a record sounds best. I think it's done a lot... more than some people realise. I've even got one or two door CDs with pitched-up tunes on.