Markw

Well this thread fits with the one currently on the go about auctions doesn't it? Supply and demand - both 45s mentioned are in demand and supply of both, whilst neither is rare as such, neither are exactly plentiful.

I think there are actually 2 syndromes at work here and there is a subtle difference between them. The first, correctly described in Nev's post - common record starts getting plays at general/big venues; gets auctioned and bought for daft money because someone doesn't know better and thinks the record's rare. The record will keep turning up in droves, as it should, and eventually prices fall back to a level closer to where they should have been all along once the novelty has worn off. The second is, IMHO, different to the first - apparently common record (because it's been a cheapie in sales boxes for years and years - "£5 - nice dancer" - we've all seen them, had them, binned them) but which folk 'in the know' (so to speak) acknowledge is in fact a fine record but it's never gone big in the past, probably for that very fact that it is perceived as a cheap, stocking-filler or 'soul-pack' 45, a 'tape-swappers' record. Said record is actually not that common after all (though not actually terribly rare either). The more discerning/'adventurous' DJ picks it up (because they play quality dancers and because they recognise that it's not actually all that common) and finally gives it its day and the record finally gets recognised for its quality after all. The record maintains a value commensurate with its quality. Nev mentioned the Flairs on Rap and Butch - classic examples in my view. Flairs - is it really that common? Butch - enough said. Yours, just waiting to get shot down in flames now............

Prices reflect condition on these - all play sound enough and always willing to refund if unhappy. Please add £2.50 for UK recorded delivery. (1) Sharon McMahan - "Love Is Wonderful" / "Here Comes That Boy I Love" (Karen) VG : £50 ****SOLD**** (2) The Hesistations - "She Won't Come Back" (Kapp WD) VG : £35 ****SOLD**** (3) Kenny Shepard - "What Difference Does It Make Now" (Maxx) VG : £80 ****SOLD**** (4) Brooks ODell - "The Lively Ones" / "Standing Tall" (Columbia WD) VG+ : £40 (5) Carlena Weaver - "Jealousy" (Audel) M- : £50 ****SOLD**** (6) Syl Foreman - "Before I Leave You" (Big Star) VG+ : £25 (7) Gloria Taylor - "Total Disaster" (Mercury WD) VG+ : £25 (8) The Famous Chromes - "Teach Me" (Drive) VG+ : £20 (9) The Vala-Quons - "Window Shopping On Girl's Avenue" (Tangerine WD) VG+ : £30 These are 70s pressings/boots whatever you want to call them........decent condition. £10 each: Ollie Jackson - "The Day My Heart Stood Still" / "Gotta Wipe Away The Teardrops" (Magnum) Gwen & Ray - "Build Your House On A Strong Foundation" (Bee Bee) Thanks for looking.

These are all pressings/boots whatever you want to call them........all in decent condition. £10 each or £40 for the lot: Ollie Jackson - "The Day My Heart Stood Still" / "Gotta Wipe Away The Teardrops" (Magnum) Gwen & Ray - "Build Your House On A Strong Foundation" (Bee Bee) Percy Wiggins - "That's Loving You" (Abet) ****SOLD**** Prince Ella & Sidney Jones - "Baby Sugar I Love You" / "Baby I Got To Cut You Loose" (Prince) ****SOLD**** The Emanon's Orchestra - "Bird Walkin' " (All Brothers) ****SOLD**** Thanks for looking.

Prices reflect condition on these - all play sound enough and always willing to refund if unhappy. Please add £2.50 for UK recorded delivery. (1) Sharon McMahan - "Love Is Wonderful" / "Here Comes That Boy I Love" (Karen) VG : £50 (2) The Hesistations - "She Won't Come Back" (Kapp WD) VG : £35 ****SOLD**** (3) Kenny Shepard - "What Difference Does It Make Now" (Maxx) VG : £80 ****SOLD**** (4) Brooks ODell - "The Lively Ones" / "Standing Tall" (Columbia WD) VG+ : £40 (5) Carlena Weaver - "Jealousy" (Audel) M- : £50 ****SOLD**** (6) Syl Foreman - "Before I Leave You" (Big Star) VG+ : £25 (7) Gloria Taylor - "Total Disaster" (Mercury WD) VG+ : £25 (8) The Famous Chromes - "Teach Me" (Drive) VG+ : £20 (9) The Vala-Quons - "Window Shopping On Girl's Avenue" (Tangerine WD) VG+ : £30 Thanks for looking.

Four Vandals was supposed to sound 60s............except it didn't, unless you had cloth ears.

I am wondering what Buddy might end up going for. Seems relatively cheap at the moment compared to past prices.

I am in the market for a copy please - red or yellow label. Paypal waiting for the right price. Please PM. Thanks.

The guy does have a 100% rating and 1059. But all this still looks dodgy to me quite frankly. Thanks again to everyone for their advice. Just got to hope the 45 comes through OK!

I would normally ask beforehand or query if postage quoted was high, but didn't have time on this occasion. Anyway, I've just logged on and this is what they say: "I am not sure what happened here. You received an invoive with an error. As i stated tracking is required for items with a total over 50 dollars. I apologize for the error and have sent a new invoice for standard airmail." This followed last night's frank exchange which perhaps threatened the Special Relationship between our 2 great nations: HIM TO ME: "Pay through Ebay, this has nothing to do with the cost of shipping. Paypal requires online tracking and it costs $31 through USPS. I am in compliance with Paypal and Ebay rules for shipping, if there is a problem it is with them. Paypal requires online tracking, this is not personal gain. If payment is not made I will file a non paying bidder claim." ME TO HIM: "Paypal does not 'require' online tracking - it recommends, but does not require. Also, it does not insist on Express and you can do online tracking without express. Where you are not in compliance with Ebay rules is in failing to advertise with the listing that you (yes, you - not Ebay, not Paypal) are insisting on express online tracking at high cost. You can file a non-paying bidder claim if you wish, though I am perfectly willing to pay for the item. I am just not willing to pay for unecessary postage charges at such exorbitant levels. If you had advertised postage at this level of charge, I would not have bid for the item. Bring it down to a reasonable level and I shall settle immediately. Insist on wanting to charge me $31 and we shall allow Ebay to adjudicate." He's now reduced postage from $31 to $8. Perhaps I should be worried about what state this 45 is going to arrive in? If it arrives at all!!?

Many thanks to everybody for their trouble and advice on this, it's really appreciated. Shall keep you all posted.

Cheers all, definitely not right (says he, choosing words carefully...........). This is the response to my initial query about this Paypal require "express with tracking" stuff: Due to inactivity on my account Paypal is trying to impose a temporary hold on Ebay items. Please resend the payment as goods/merchandise and note what you are paying for. You are still protected under buyer protection using this method. I refunded your payment. ID (deleted this detail for now) Thank I have now sent a fairly stiff reply along the lines suggested by Wigan Dancer (thanks mate) and given 24 hours for a satisfactory response or I shall report to Ebay.

It's a 45. The question is not so much whether there is some US postal service that will cost $31, but whether there is any truth that Paypal require "express with tracking". If it is, I never come across anyone who has insisted on that.

It's a 45. The question is not so much whether there is some US postal service that will cost $31, but whether there is any truth that Paypal require "express with tracking". If it is, I never come across anyone who has insisted on that.

It's a 45. The question is not so much whether there is some US postal service that will cost $31, but whether there is any truth that Paypal require "express with tracking". If it is, I never come across anyone who has insisted on that.

This is useful chaps, but is there any truth in the seller's statement to me? - "Express with tracking is required by Paypal. 31 dollars is the cost."

The benefit of your wisdom and experience is kindly requested folks. Won an item off Ebay for $43 - no postage cost quoted. Seller now wants $31. When queried, they say: "Express with tracking is required by Paypal. 31 dollars is the cost." I have replied that I've not come across this before. Any thoughts, advice etc gratefully received. Thanks

Hope he's OK. Best wishes to him.

Absolutely mate! Might not get them every time, but the bargains are there.

Thought I'd shove in what I paid for my first set - all purchased in the last 12 months, all fair prices at the time, but I acknowledge might have crept up a little since, but I don't think there's anything there that's too far off? Patto did say a limit of £50 or thereabouts, so a slight liberty with 2 sixty pounders. Here's my second set, same brief, aimed at the upper end of the tempo: Johnny & The Expressions - Boys And Girls Together (Josie WD) The Volumes - You Got It Baby (Inferno) Billy Hambric - Talk To Me Baby (Fury) - £5 gem! Jimmy Lewis - Let Me Know (Minit) Babara Mason - Don't Ever Want To Lose Your Love (Arctic) The Fabulous Dimensions - I Can't Take It Baby (Sapphire) - might be on the up price wise but paid £50 last year Jimmy Holiday - I've Been Done Wrong (Diplomacy WD) Lou Bond - You Shake Me Up (Brainstorm) Nora Lee - You Must Believe Me (Westwood) Vic & The Catalinas - Talking About My Girl (Barclay) Oscar Boyd - When Things Get A Little Better (Hermes) - what a record for a fiver!! McKinley Mitchell - You Know I've Tried (One-derful WD) Ruth Davis - I Need Money (Kent WD) Little Ben & The Cheers - Baby You're Mine (Rush) Bob & Earl - Oh Baby Doll (Tempe WD) Sammy Sevens - Everybody Crossfire (Swan WD) Just realised, that's 16. Sorry Patto.

Clips mostly available on Youtube etc (sorry, but my broadband is hideously slow this morning and I can't be arsed to post clips!). Add £2.50 for recorded post in the UK please. The Dells - "Sitting On The Dock Of The Bay" (UK Chess yellow label demo) VG+ £15 Carlena Weaver - "Jealousy" (Audel) NM (cleanest copy you will see) £50 Gene Middleton & The Sole Survivors - "Stop Where You Are" / "You Need Love" (D&B) - 2 great sides - Ex £20 The Natural Four - "The Situation Needs No Explanation" (ABC) Ex £20 Bobby Newton & The Incredible Saxons - "Don't Fight The Feeling" (Lorraine) Ex £10 Sonny Stiles & His Kings Men - "Give A Little Bit" (Joy WD) VG+ £20 The Shirelles - "Look Away" (Scepter) Ex £15 Gloria Taylor - "Total Disaster" (Mercury WD) Ex £25 The Famous Chromes - "Teach Me" (Drive) VG+ £30 James Phelps - "Don't Be A Cry Baby" (Fontana) VG £15 Brooks ODell - "The Lively Ones" / "Standing Tall" (Columbia WD) VG++ £40 Tony Harrison - "Sad Occasion" (Commerce) NM £15 Syl Foreman - "Before I Leave You" (Bright Star) Ex £30 Open to offers on multiples. Thanks for looking.

...........and this is why we love Go Go Children mate - nice sets like this! and a big to Salmon - same wavelength mate, same wavelength.

Some great 45s there Patto! OK. Here we go, here's my 15: James Shorter - Ready For The Heartbreak (La Beat) Helen Curry - I Want You, I Need You (Ja-Wes) The Invincibles - Nobody (Double Shot) Jimmy Church - Right On Time (Sound Stage 7) King Ernest - I Feel Alright (Barry) The Relatives - She's Got Soul (WOW!) Roscoe Robinson - What Makes A Man Do Wrong (Tuff) Jonny Rome - Let Me Pour All My Love Into Your Heart (Philips) Betty & Ray - You're Too Much (Rendezvous) Little Rock Brotherhood - Girl Watching On Broadway (Ref-o-ree) Gary Brown - Spoiled Child (Brownie) JImmy Love - Two Sides To Every Story (Josie) Sam Green - Oh Girls (Goldsmith TCB) The Royal Jacks - I'm Gonna Love You (Big 5) Inovations - Just Keep On Loving Me (Hit Sound) Best Mark White

"Perfect for today's scene"........"ripe for revival"............."great 'funky Northern' dancer".......................

Nothing quite like it.