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Ahh Hadyn, been meaning to chastise you on your chinstroker comments, but all is forgiven, another succinct and to the point response, I must try one of those, then maybe people would listen to me! Hope you are well young man.

Aww jeez let it go, go and play on the Chris Evans thread he deserves it. We get your point, its one of your many irrelevants ones and particularly irrelevant on here, so lets not make this all about you eh. Anway Eric Hobsbawm is now being debated and slagged off on politics thread, surely you want to go and save him rather than worry about a piss*d celebrity making a twat of himself, hardly unusual....

Gareth I love you, in a very manly pat on the back strongly sort of way obviously. You are under instruction to join us at 100 Club Xmas party and first drink on me for your two posts. Can anyone grinding their gums about this actually argue with any what Gareth says,and articulate that argument? I did think of responding earlier but mines was full of swear words and sarcastic put downs because I just don't get most of the responses on this, Glad I didn't as Mr Sweeney, succinctly and perfectly, and Ms Hamilton, less succinctly (obviously) but equally perfectly just get it right. Other than Mr Waterman's rather unhealthy obsession with male miners and their coal lamps, he was as cheesy as you would expect but f**k me he was enthusiastic and he certainly didn't try and say he knew it all. And jeez you cannot fault the man for the publicity he is getting for Elaine which I assume is great for her. Whats to fault with this? And for those implying surprise at there being any miners at Wigan? WTF that is on a par with BinStanley's no drug comments. Sure the Mansfield lads would verify, as were most of my Tranent lads, so there were definitely more than a few there, although not quite sure why Petey thought they all were, maybe something to with their lamps for eyes at night......

Why does it have to have any relevance to the scene Paul, its a film, and should be based on film rules and will it be a good film is surely only criteria. Elaine is putting her heart and soul, and unbelievable time into this, so as Gareth says if anyone can do it she can. I suppose the only parallel is Quadrophenia, which did result in lots of people joining, but that was more about an ongoing Mod revival which seems to be happening anyway today. So surely that is more likely to swamp the scene with youngsters and from what I can see no-one seems to have a problem with the young guys starting up city centre nights, which surely is more relevant to todays "upfront" scene, or at least the one you are interested in. This seems to be happening anyway,and getting good praise, therefore I doubt the sort of people that go to these nights or search out the more authentic side are really likely to be influenced by much other than what they judge is cool, otherwise they aren't worth worrying about to be honest. To be honest, with the maze of scenes out there anyway, why would anyone getting back into it because of any film find their way through to the same scene as you inhabit anyway, surely they would find their way back to the oldies scene, which as you say already have their problems anyway and to be honest I suspect are full of returnees anyway, why would an new infusion be any different to what has been happening there for the last 10 years. . To be honest mate, if you think either PW or a film is the biggest threat to any decent Northern scene that still exists you have taken your eye of the ball, it seems to doing a good job of imploding all on its own and I think any rush of new (aka old returnees with no teeth) blood would be almost invisible to it. Kev Roberts would likely be one of the main beneficaries

Because then it would be a f**cking documentary not a film. And as much as Bidds and Radcliffe are 2 of the few places I would go to if I wasn't too apathetic to leave my barstool in Edinburgh for more than it takes for my gin injection, I certainly don't think I would go to the cinema to see Mace, Andy D, Chris W, as lovely men as they all are and as great records they have etc spinning their wares and greeting their customers for 8 hours, not really rivetting cinema would it be. I seem to see lots of directors doing their first film about the past and something they love, so why not this, Nobody seemed to mind Shane Meadows doing his films based on over 20 years ago so what is logic about this. Why can no-one see this is a film and therefore judge it as you would any other film, its not about today's scene and why should it be?

And indeed why should he, f**c me, some of the people on here are getting so far from reality (not you by the way, I am agreeing with you) I am glad I am nothing to do with this scene any more.

Jeez not often I praise you on here, but 11.5 out of 10 for this one. And just to add if people spent less time listening and debating what pop djs play on radio 2 and spent more time thinking of what they play, listen to and buy on the current scene it wouldn't be as pish as it is now with everyone playing the same records. Double Jeez, I couldnt imagine ever thinking of shit like this when I was going out every week, much more interested in my own records and chasing ones no-one else had.

HI Mark, mate put a link up to the ebay direct might help, some crackers there not been seen for a while

Thats an amazing quality video for 1976.

I thought it was download only, not actually sure if it was generally available download or limited audience, again EMS probably better bet. Great track though.

Did this ever actually come out? I know a man who will know, Dodger are you there? Probably better over on Essential Modern Soul forum for this question, although you should obviously post answer here when you get it. If you do get any offered I would like one too thanks very much. Different voice but I like it, think he is a great singer with too little material, but I suspect not for the majority on here so try before you buy would be my advise.

Anyone got any reasonable priced copies of two LP's Bobby Womack - Fly Me To The Moon (Minit) (Think this might have come out as other title in Europe, happy with that as long as released at time of original) Maurice Massiah - Seventh Heaven (Quality) LP think this was Canadian only. Managed to lose my copy it appears. reasonable prices or will probably pass, so no Boogie dealers from Discogs thanks very much! Cheers Jock

If you read it carefully, vey closely, you will see I gave a clue with the red highlighter in your comments, as well as some some contextual comments in mine, I was talking about your 80's comments, not about the overall history. But just to spell it out, my comment was all about one handed handstands weren't that common where I went in the 80's, that was my gist, but then again neither were acrobatics generally in those days. And I suppose neither were regular punters, but thats another thread.....

Very sad, seen him at one of his early comeback gigs at Poretta and he was amazingly good, loved it so much they couldn't get him off, some incredibly decent stuff in the 60's and a half decent Atlantic LP, among his highlights.

Interesting timelines, you may want to check your diary or we were at very different events and different time zones. Most of the floorwork in the 80's was avoiding Butch throwing a Socialist Worker at someone or avoiding Pete Lawson throwing a wobbly. Happy to be corrected of course, with evidence! I love how everyone, again, ignores Bob with good factual stuff about the artists!

Not had time to look through this, so apologies if already there, but big mention for Kim Tolliver - Where Were You, 12" obviously. Heart wrenching, mind blowing, better than sex, however many minutes long its the business all the way through, but it moves up a gear towards the end, especially the build up, like any climax it has you waiting on that final thrust, you know its coming, but when she finishes it only the strongest tobacco in the world will suffice to bring you down of the ceiling, Life affirming music. Always laugh when I pick up an old VFS (I think) and there is Tim Brown, no. 1 deep soul fan, listing her recordings and including this as a new release and saying "its ordinary", Unbelievable statemnt

I assume this is from this https://www.amazon.com/Southern-Soul-Willie-Clayton/dp/B00000AEX6 not heard that version, must have a listen when I get home. Look out for the Syl Johnson version, fantastic record, especially his expression of ss's in it, I love that song. Good female version also by Erma Coffee too but Syl "blows" here away for me,.

Can't say more than that, other than "Poem on the school house door" remains a defining moment in why soul music is the greatest art form in the world. Heart stopping on so many levels. Giant of a man, biggest regret is missing the Poretta he did, having been there for the 3 years before, absolute giant of a vocalist.

Yes please John, a nice list done to Actuarial accuracy, and before end of year please. I have been meaning to put together a whole set of this for a spot or a radio show, I think it would be of unbelievable quality and actually amaze us at the quality of stuff that is actually there, any CD players at Filthy boys??

Its Okay. You must be f***ng kidding, f**k me what an unbelievably misleading comment. I could assume you have just too high standards but I suspect you know I am not gonna think that. Its okay.................. Go and F***ng listen without the sheeps headphones on, There are at least 3 other great play out records on it, and its a damn decent soul LP with at least 2 truly great all time classic soul tracks on it, other than the one mentioned here. This LP should be in any self respecting soul fans collection. Its okay.... these words will haunt me every time I caress that album lovingly. I need a gin, my 3 weeks on the wagon out the window, why did I read this.

There is a better track on the CD! I see another f***ing Mario Bondi coming and this being played (on boot 7" obviously) in Village Halls at pensioners Northern Soul tea dances all over the (relative) North, being seen as progressive amongst the Charles Johnsons and Lou Kirtons, resulting in moaning and grumping about what is a great piece of music being ruined by the sound of Baaing as people dance. And Bob that is exactly what it is, although I suspect that went over many heads faster than Concorde! Oh well, maybe at least Kirk Franklin and Mario will get a rest, anyone for Brenda Boykin now???

Not on the night that picture of Kerso and me with Shelvo was taken... Thankfully avoiding the camera as no doubt my eyes looked just like Kerso's!! Great picture NIck, I avoided pics back in the day but love seeing them now, especially that one with my cheapo jacket out of Flip that looked cool but used to be absolutely dripping with sweat at end of the night. Bradford was the beginning of the end for me in many ways it was start of my journey that ending up by throwing myself headlong into house (music not bricks obviously) and eternally grateful to Barry and crew for that, truly great days. Truly great pics NIck really captured the absolute madness and eclecticness of the crowd.

Bloody hell; whose 80's collection you been plundering, some big 70's ones from you in last couple of weeks, I assume you are recording them all to listen to, and then podcast. I assume you are getting advice on some of these Pete, as if it is that sort of collection there will be some things that lots of people are not familiar with now, but are hard records. I know them but am way out of touch on prices. Interesting to know what the market for this type of stuff (wider than 4 above obviously) are nowadays as most of this sort of stuff I suspect have lay dormant in "modern" collectors for nigh on 20 years. Good luck and I look forward to your conversion........

Little WIllie John seems to be the educated response, what little material I have heard has been very good but has been his later stuff I have his 3 Kent CD's, which I think includes all his early stuff and his book still unopened that I am going to listen to/read over Xmas hols, I will report back.

There can only be one Don't Go Turbo Northern Soul in its purest definition! Stop arguing and just listen, I am right, again!