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I suspect it is Shrine That was my first thought, closely followed by it would be nice of poster to articulate his logic behind his assumption!

So why getting involved then, other than to rubbish people on here, again. I actually agree with you to a certain extent but suspect we have very differing logic behind our rationale, surely if you are getting involved you need to explain to a new poster why he is wrong. Although personally I think someone making the "charity circuit" type plea post as his first should be made to stand in middle of room in a chair and give his real name, his number and 3 forms of id to prove its not a wind up., Unless someone is willing to give real thought to this and add something new , lets not go there again. The funny shoe man says it all really above surely and sums it up perfectly, is there anything else to add?

I wasn't meaning the style of your English, which I suspect is of academically good standard and far better than the majority of us, more the fact you are always bashing your ex pat ex countryman like a native! And if your Morcilla is anything like the stuff I had in place called Cazorla 2 years ago, that looked like congealed boiling dirty blood, I will take all you have. It was one of the most wondrous dishes I have ever tasted

Based on my recent outings there are a lot more Pauline Calfs than Paul on the scene ............

I think his acting chops stretch a bit further than that to be fair, he has done a fair bit of tv and film acting, surprisingly more than I ever thought. And as one half of the Baby Cow production team I would have thought his experience in film world generally was pretty good.

Where did I say he wasn't or it isn't?? I was pointing out over years his accent in that film got some criticism as he was representing a first generation Italian American, but no-one thought it that important or indeed that stopped it being the fantastic performance it was! I was trying to add the power of perspective, not something people on our scene are famed for.

How do we know what his native language until he does an intro, sure lots of people think you are Spanish by the way you write your English, bashing the Brits abroad and defending the proper Morcilla. :D A serious point is he seems to be reluctant to both present an intro and debate further, which has very similar traits to last antagonist who dissapeared on similar pressing! £í¢"š¬í¢"š¬ Emm Elaine has written it, so to be fair unlikely she wants to surrender the dialogue, and it would sort of then make it not her film! An interesting comparison however, I didn't like that film at first, being younger and more of a soul snob (no comments) and less interested in films, but have watched it many times since and it is a really credible British film, with as you say some great dialogue. Probably the line of the thread, and what I was trying to say above with, as usual for me, far too many words. That was her polite way of saying, beat it ugly, you have a face for radio not film! (To Len, not to you obviously as have not had the pleasure as yet Win!)

£í¢"š¬í¢"š¬ Okay you are still losing me, I don't think anything, I know it is not a "doc", as do you, and if you are saying that people won't be able to tell the difference between a dramatised representation, i.e. a film, and documented observations, i.e a documentary, you don't really rate highly the intelligence of the average film goer or indeed Northern Punter, maybe a bit more understandable on the second one given the bashing we have given our brains over the years, but still very harsh and sounds just a little bit daft. I appreciate there are people who think Gail Platt really does live next door to them, but generally they are in secure buildings. I assume you are meaning on its authenticity rather than its form and yes I agree that is the difficult bit, and one that concerns most. And the one that will be most harshly judged but they seem to be doing their damndest on all fronts to go for this, the clothes and the dance classes, and ironically they get criticised for that. We are a strange bunch this Northern Soul world aren't we. I think expecting it to be 101% accurate is just daft, very few films are, but the best ones are always close, I agree. Surely a film represents the film makers representation of that time, and for me that normally helps turn a good film into a great one. Based on your theory Shane Meadows should have made films on New Romantics, but thankfully he had more taste than that. Why the f**k should a film maker not make a film that represents their view of that time, and what they know, and what they love, which maybe just maybe was the underground. It is feasible that talented people are in our midst and therefore are better equipped than us to do the telling, as much as that hurts our ego. Doesn't the undergorund need even more of a voice in the world than the mainstream which has already been done to death. If not you need to rewrite Mark Cousin's book on film making as I suspect he got it wrong based on your rules. Since I was still dreaming of turning into David Bowie and Marc Bolan at the time, being too young for nocturnal habits, when you were having your heyday on the Scene, I can't really comment. As far as I know Elaine and the others on the film have taken advise from a whole lot of people around then so probably worth you dropping a note of this. As I say I was also surprised but it has actually been mentioned a couple of times on here. I do think that point would be better made direct to them as it may help them sharpen up their film, if relevant. As for your longevity comment, again you lose me. Why is this relevant? Personally I don't give a flying F**k if it is good for the scene or not, it is a film, they are training people, hard, to perform in a film to make it as authentic as possible, just like many good film makers before them. The fact that many of them are genuinely interested is surely irrelevant for the film, To be honest it appears to me large chunks of the scene today are far too commercial to worry about a short influx of "tourists", indeed I suspect 95% of current scene relies on Tourists, so suspect your point is largely irrelevant, and just sounds like you looking for another opportunity to have a kick at this project. That is my opinion I should say re the impact on current scene, and to be fair to Elaine etc they have invested lots of time and energy, and I assume money, in giving their dancers real perspective of the scene to the extent they seem genuinely interested, but given the current numbers on the multitude of scenes, do you really think it will make a massve difference to the quantity or the quality of the multitude of soul nights on every week? If "they" killed it way back then, how come you are still out and about every weekend? I will buy mortally wounded it for the old school like you, and I get that. But it obviously recovered soon, like many people I was around we went out regularly for over 17 years from 1979 and it was hardly dead for the people around then, may have not been the same scene you recognised but it was a scene, and a far more united one. I always think lots of people, and I don't know you so am not including you in this, use this as an excuse for their 20 odd year break when in reality the commercial period seemed to be a few years and then we all know what happened after that don't we. But now we digress away from the topic.. I am glad to hear you are communicating with them, I obviously know Elaine well personally and am completely confident she will take all advice on board that helps, but this is a film, lets get back to that subject and it is Elaines representation of that world, I am fairly sure Marlon Brando's accent in Godfather 1 was not that great but most people seem to get over that and judge it on its merits as a Film. And I like your closing logic, you can bash the film for free as much as you like, but to defend it and appreciate the effort going in you have to pay? A little childish is it not.

Yes another one liner, along with the same same old in that from the usual suspects. I am off to the Mark Cousins forum and see if anything them are members over there......... Most interesting is our little Frenchman still has not posted an intro despite many requests, does anyone smell another pesky little rodent....

Good man Clifford, that will be my Sunday listening, with hopefully the hangover of all hangovers. Hope you and the scary one are well, will be good to catch up at Cleggy, mines is a bacon roll!

You have lost me here, its a drama with Northern Soul at the heart of it, if you can be bothered to read the publicity, not a documentary about Northern Soul, as I said before no-one expects Shane Meadows films to tell the whole history of Skinhead movement do they, it is a film set in a certain period of time, like many many British films and they seem determined to make it as authentic as possible for that time, so whats the problem? It is a drama and should be judged as such surely. I was surprised at girls too, but they are being taught by someone who was there, and to be fair there have been a couple of comments on other threads talking about girls doing so, I went to one of the dance classes just as in area (to watch before any smart ass comments on my less than fluid dance style) and from what I seen about 80% of them had it right and I believe they have improved dramatically since then. Its about a time dear to many of us, made by one of us, who is putting her heart and soul into everything to do with it, would it be too much to ask for a little positivity? I bet you Scorsese is pleased he only tackles the Catholic Church and Religion in his movies, rather than this sacred sanctity that is Northern Soul 1974.....

Really, all I can see is a load of one liners with no explanation at all. Do you want to articulate why you think this and what you know about the film to make you think like this, then you might find you someone from the film will actually answer your concerns, they are on FB if it is easier there. The making money comment is hilarious, if you think that is what this project is about you obviously know nothing about it., And since this seems to be your main gripe how about supplying your full name, to ensure it is not yet another person with a hidden agenda.

Is that Mr Doonan by any chance? Too many coincidences surely. Nothing guilty in that pleasure mate, you always had good taste. Nice on a 7" if you have this, only LP for me, Remember his other one Just The Way You Like It? Even better, I have that on a nice 7" UK./

With an even better flip side, used to play that, What a great record that not aware has had its day, too common and all that one suspects, but at this price its a snip.

I think it is probably Nowhere to Run by Gerri Hirshey, pretty sure that has a section on him. It is mentioned in a few books, but that is great as it is generally the artists telling their story if I remember rightly. Unless you mean a book on SB, in which case would love to get details. I saw him live a couple of times over last 10 years, and he still had a voice, even though he could hardly walk. Fantastic singer, Cry To Me is hard to beat but there are some great stuff, love his Bell releases. Wonderful singer, fantastic character!

We were in a posh hotel which was very expensive and that was Tef's response to us telling him it was his round! Mind we had to explain the double entendre of round that weekend to all our English compadres that weekend, the bar one seemed to be an alien concept to them................. :g:

I am still in the huff about no invites so its back to you for buying beers all weekend!

Ady you would probably pay for his flight with tickets just to see him, he is a stunner, go on you can do it. We believe in you. You will go down in history then. I would say I would even sleep with you if you bring that off, but suspect you might see through that as a pathetic attempt to get a decent caravan on site....

Either I am hoping for the sympathy vote and hoping to be provided with free beer by a select few, including yourself, and other equally stimulating presents all weekend, or Mr Bell is going to be so good nothing will ever equal it so not worth ever going out again. Or I am just a big drama queen trying, and miserable failing, to get some attention! 2 out of 3 aint bad I suppose.

Ehh no, the decks have pitch control to allow you to seamlessy mix, beat perfect, the outro of one record into the intro of another, bloody hard to do with soul music or less of a tempo so would love to hear you lot try!! Leave it to masters like the much maligned on here Colin Curtis, suspect he could teach you a thing or two when it comes to that! Otherwise the answer is no as you are obviously papering over cracks in your collection, yes you Mr G its a well known fact you need even more records, and need to try harder to choose the right set of records. And anyone mentioning Soul Essence, -4 and no sleep for 2 days will get a toe where the sun don't shine!

It is a bright Green label (lovely colour) with one eye from a dragon as a logo. Everything on it is brilliant, and written by O. Thello but impossible to find, therefore I am annoyed by anyone who has anything on the label that I don't. Glad to be of help.

I think I am physically aroused at Marks suggestion. Adddyyyyyyyyyy???

If you want to join in you would be most welcome, with your Leather Trousers on we will walk you just 10 feet in front of the boys and that should keep them going when they are struggling with fatigue. We would obviously give Colin an extra shot of Bromide in his early morning tea just to make sure no accidents happened when he was teeing off. :D

If it was same article as I saw it was in Mojo mag well over a year ago, and it had an email address for copies but I never got an answer from them ,would be keen to get details if there are more up to date contact details. Soulpersona's contemporary music is very good also and worth a listen, as long as you are not looking for Northern soundalikes....

I flew KLM Amsterdam to Humberside airport about 10 years ago and it was relatively cheap and only a shortish taxi ride to Beechcomber. At that time not many flights as generally a package type airport but at that point they had a service for offhsore type workers so Amsterdam was one of the destinations, as well as Aberdeen. I did have to fly back at about 7 on the Sunday morning, which was a challenge!