Sorry Mr R you are normally the voice of reason on here (although I did notice you missed out Risk Management on your Banking précis some time ago!) but I have to say that’s rubbish. It’s at the very heart of what made the Northern scene great, and why most of the current Northern Scene is a Laurel and Hardyesque parody of a once great phenomenon. If you want to sit and talk soul music all day, I agree it’s irrelevant, but if you want to talk scene its essential. And the correlation between the amount of people who don't get it and the importance of this disappearing and the scene falling flat on its arse is absolute. And actually I think you will find in our world the Discoverer was often not the DJ, Pete Lawson been a very good example, and indeed Butch before he started DJing, and off course the daddy of them all John Anderson. In many ways in the 80’s they held far higher esteem than the DJ. Therefore for me there is an important distinction between the Discoverer and the Breaker. Both essential and the Discoverer is always going to be the one on the pedestal for the hard core record collector. But on a DJ led scene, whether you like it or not, the DJ deserves credit. And for the majority, not the hard core collectors, they made or broke their week when people just lived to worship at the double decked alter and dance their blues away at the weekend. And that era when Keb and Guy were turning records round weekly in a manic mission to find "the one” was the pinnacle. They were scene gods, deservedly, although very approachable and human like gods it must be said. As the generation above me (maybe two above actually, they are very old) will say about the Mecca, and Levine and Curtis. Its gone for ever but it deserves to be recognised and recorded as its an essential part, possibly the centre, of the Northern Scene. History is often rewritten to suit the current day and I think its important to recognise. Call me a romantic if you like, or call me a twat since I know you were never on the Northern scene so its probably irrelevant to you, but something I felt the urge to say!