Steve L

I dont know about completely different, its very similar but there are differences. Same group (I think) they re-recorded it if I remember correctly. I've always wondered about the Eric releases as well, surprised there isn't more info coming

How Can I was played at Wigan 78/9 Chalky, didnt hear the other side till about 10/12 years ago. Both sides equally as good

I agree mate, i've got one similar but with discoloured labels and havent got a clue if its real or not

Winnie as we all know this and similar topics have been done to death time and again over the life of soul source . I'm not sure if I'm entirely right here but it seems to me that the "oldies only" people are never quite as vocal in putting their side of the debate over. You get the odd one saying "I like what I like and thats it" etc but maybe they dont have the same passion (in general) as those who are constantly striving to hear new records and broaden their knowledge? Contentious point I know

Very true Len, a lot of people are missing out on hearing some fantastic music due to certain misconceptions - thats the real shame of all this.

Like I said earlier whoever bought this could have had one for £28 on ebay last week - Numpty

Bah humbug Wake me up when its all over

Mark, a lot of the bootlegs made in the 70s were pressed at Monarch as well as originals going back to the 60s. As Pete said the delta number will give you a pretty accurate date when the record was made.

A record made at Monarch pressing plant in Los Angeles (West Coast) easily identifiable by a stamp and delta number

This goes against the grain for me but not having been to a northern do for 30 years I think you'd be better sticking to a venue that plays classic oldies only. Kingsway Hall at Forest Town (near Mansfield) would give you just that but its a long way to travel for a night that finishes at 12.30ish. Sorry cant recommend anything further South along those lines. Have fun whatever you do

With all due respect that is a load of tripe and gives a false impression of Lifeline - it also fuels the fire of those who imagine that the rare scene is made up of a few "chinstrokers" standing round looking bored. I dont know how many times you've been to lifeline but the dance floor gets plenty of action right up till 7am when Rob Smith has to be peeled away from the decks. Anyway whats this obsession with a "packed" dance floor? I agree there's nothing better than a busy dance floor in full flow and the atmosphere that it generates but this packing the dance floor business winds me up. The number of times that I've read on lookbacks threads "so and so came on and packed the dance floor" Usually in my experience this is because of lowest common denominator records being played as opposed to the the DJ actually playing quality tunes with any imagination

Thats not really the point mate, we're not talking about the same thing here

It'll be interesting to see what this fetches, one went through ebay last week for about £27. About 9/10 months ago I missed one at £7.99 on ebay cos I forgot to bid, no one else bid on it. The seller immediately relisted it so the following week I bid £8.20 for it thinking no one would be interested - it went for £8.40! Doh

9 - 10 Phil Shields (highly underrated) 10 - 11 Ted 11 - 12 Joan 12 - 1 Mick H 1 - 2 Andy Dyson 2 - 3 Butch 3 - 4 Kitch 4 - 5 Karl Heard 5 - 6 John McClure / Big Danny 6-6.05 Kev H

A perfect summary of the whole situation!

This isn't really about the quality/trustworthiness of dealers like John Manship, its about a record that is generally valued at lets say £50, the record then fetches say £300 on JM's auction. This then becomes the records"value" for some people who also try to sell it for £300. That was petes original point.

I agree, the world of John Manships auctions is inhabited by strange people from a different planet to me. These people have either more money than they know what to do with or are clinically insane To try and mix this world with the one that most ordinary collectors (well me anyway) inhabit is just wrong. Alternatively you could describe it as bandwagon jumping, trying to make a quick buck I suppose that goes on in all walks of life

ALL THESE PREVIOUSLY LISTED AT £5 NOW ALSO 3 FOR £10 POSTAGE £2 FOR ONE OR £2.50 FOR THREE PAYPAL GIFT PLEASSE IRMA THOMAS - (I WANT A) TRUE TRUE LOVE (IMPERIAL) EX FIVE STAIRSTEPS - LITTLE YOUNG LOVER (CURTOM) M- FIVE STAIRSTEPS - LITTLE BOY BLUE (CURTOM) M- LITTLE MILTON - LETS GET TOGETHER (CHECKER) EX LITTLE MILTON- JUST A LITTLE BIT (CHECKER) M- SOLD LITTLE MILTON - I KNOW WHAT I WANT (CHECKER) EX+ LITTLE MILTON - BELIEVE IN ME (CHECKER) EX SOLD LITTLE MILTON - CANT HOLD BACK THE TEARS (CHECKER) M- LOYCE COTTON - TRY IT YOU'LL LIKE IT (AQUARIUS) M- MAJOR LANCE - UM UM UM (OKEH) VG+ BLENDTONES - COME ON HOME (SUCCESS) M- RAY CHARLES - I CHOSE TO SING THE BLUES (ABC) EX- SOLD SHIRELLES - SHADES OF BUE (SCEPTER) VG+ FLAMINGOS - KOO KOO (PHILIPS) EX CANDY & THE KISSES - KEEP ON SEARCHING (SCEPTER) EX- FLAMINGOS - BOOGALOO PARTY (PHILIPS) VG+ DOO-RIGHTSYOU'RE MY GIRL (DOUBLE SHOT) M- DELLA REESE - NEVER MY LOVE (ABC) M- JACKIE LEE - WOULD YOU BELIEVE (JAY BOY) EX O'KAYSIONS - LOVE MACHINE (ABC) M- IMPRESSIONS - I LOVED AND I LOST (ABC) M- IMPRESSIONS - SOMETIMES I WONDER (ABC) M- TAMS - ITS ALL RIGHT (YOURE JUST IN LOVE) M- JOE SIMON - LONG HOT SUMMER (SOUND STAGE 7) VG++

You are a tosspot Rob

I'd just like to categorically state that its not me Another slur on the towns reputation, as if it wasnt already bad enough!

Bobby Womack - What Is This on Minit thinking it was the same as keymen

Martyn, if you got to offending venues a lot of the people there were never there first time around and so dont get it in that sense. I'll bet a fair % at some nights have never done an all nighter. Thats not a dig before anyone shouts me down but the whole scene has been diluted down to accommodate people and increase attendances.

Mine just dropped though the door, looks great! Looking forward to reading it

If you enjoy stopping in and getting old before your time then thats your perogative, after all its a free world, BUT FFS if you can and want to, get out and enjoy yourself while you still can - we'll all be dead soon enough. Back on topic, agree with many of the points raised and was vocal about certain issues in the past. However you're pissing in the wind if you think things can be changed, the many headed monster that is the northern scene has evolved into its present state and there's no going back or altering anything dramatically. There's just too many different people all with their own interpretations of things for any sort of unity, its as simple as that. Just pick the bits you like and enjoy it and ignore the rest (admitedly thats not easy sometimes) thats all you can do

I'm surprised no one from our area has been on here and mentioned the Westfield Folkhouse Youth Club. A place that introduced numerous generations of Mansfield people to the music. Summer holidays 1974 (aged 13) went down to the disco there, not really knowing what to expect and up to that time being into the usual Slade, T Rex & Sweet. I'm not sure if it was the first night that it hit me but it didn't take long. The older lads dancing to this amazing music really gripped me, up till then I'd only seen girls dancing at school discos and other youth clubs. Soon I was hearing talk of Wigan, The Torch and other exciting sounding places, and I was down at Syd Booths spending my pocket money on the latest pressings. One record that really stand out is Johnny Sayles - I Cant get Enough, 37 years on and the music has never been far away, in for the duration