Andy Rix

As I recall Kent issued an LP with the track credited to Big Maybelle but subsequently discovered that the track was actually by the Charmers It's been a long time so my memory has faded but I think the Kent LP version is an alternate take, and better cut, of the take that was released as a 45 I'm sure somebody else can confirm and supply more detail Andy

Without hearing it to be absolutely sure I'll stick my neck out and say that this is probably the track that John Vincent used to play in the late 70s as The Sequins - You'd better get away .... I certainly recall it got some further airtime during the Keb era but I seem to recall Guy being the one who pushed it the most ... my memory might be letting me down here Anyway .. it's a track I've always loved and one I actually missed hearing for many years as it seemed to have disappeared for a second time .. first JV then Keb/Guy ..... imagine my delight when Ady Croasdell called me one day to ask me if i knew anything about an unreleased Swan recording called 'Run run run' .. he played it to me and it was the very same 'Sequins' tune ... what a good day that was So .. it's the Persianettes and you can find it on the Kent CD that features the Swan recordings Regards Andy

""Do you have an exact address for the Prophonics label in Mt Morris?"" 666 Beach St Mount Morris Michigan 48458-1908 I think this is it Andy

Welcome Cecil It's a pleasure to have you here Bill Tuthill told me about the session for IDLTL and that he did the original lead vocal for the track. It was felt it wasn't quite what was wanted and you were drafted in to deliver the masterpiece we now all revere. He also recalled Paul Potts wasn't happy with the arrangement for the song and wanted it changed but the band resisted. He also recalled how he structured the end of the song to reflect the sound the Beatles got on 'Penny Lane' with their brass work. A fascinating story I attached the lyrics he sent me in a previous post Regards Andy

Brenda Holloway recorded this at Motown but would need to hear it to confirm if it's her. A version was issued by Patty Michaels on Epic .. I think it was her, I have a copy on the shelf so need to 'find' it Andy

thanks Marc That's fascinating. My info about the Freddie Gorman attribution came from the session logs .. apparently no mention of a recording by the Valadiers but that doesn't really mean anything. Do you recall the source of your info ? I think the 10" I had came from Ady to Steve Chadwick to Rob .. I seem to think it maybe went to Lew Stanley but it was a few years ago. What's on your NYC acetate ? Cheers Andy

As you'll see it was unreleased at the time of recording and finally appeared on the 'Motown Sings Motown Treasures' CD .. so no vinyl release Andy Just Seven Numbers (Can Straighten Out My Life) (Pamela Sawyer-Laverne Ware) publ. Jobete David Ruffin & Bobby Taylor; rec 30-Apr-70 ; produced by Bobby Taylor 12-Jan-05; CD: Hip O Select B0003619-02 Motown Sings Motown Treasures Four Tops; rec 30-Jul-70 ; produced by Frank Wilson ; arranged by Dave Van DePitte, Jerry Long Aug-70; LP (S): Motown MS721 Changing Times 28-Dec-70; 45 (M): Motown M 1175 A

Oh dear .... i'm obviously not paying attention this morning !!

Well we were both wrong ! 'Tell all your friends' is actually Freddie Gorman .. no surprise really considering he co-wrote it .. 'You never met a guy' probably isn't Herman Griffin. I based my view on who was signed at the time and who it was likely to be. Unless there were 2 Jobete songs at the same time with the same title it would seem this one came out of New York and was written by George Kerr & Sidney Barnes. The only problem here is that the recording pre-dates the opening of the NY office. Still we can't discount it. Also of interest the first version of 'Day dreamer' was by Lamont Dozier ... Eddie dubbed his vocal on the track and Lamont was erased. Marc - are you able to put a scan up ? I don't think I scanned ther copy I had before it got sold which was a bit silly Andy

Archie Powell went on to be a member of The Presidents who hit in 1970 with "5-10-15-20 (25-30 Years of Love)" on Sussex Records Andy

You could easily be right about the Valadiers .. they are very similar in style I'll do some proper research and try to clarify Andy

I remember seeing the acetates in the shop. Ady I think you sold one that Rob ended up with that then lived with me for a few years. I can't remember where it went !! The other tracks are, or are believed to be based on aural opinion Mike & Modifiers - Tell all your friends .. a song also recorded by Barret Strong Kim Weston - Perfect love -- with a male back-up believed to be Mickey Stevenson Herman Griffin - You never met a guy All were recorded in October 1962 Andy

I did a write up on this in an old Shades of Soul. As stated the label was owned by Carl Queen and some other guy who had a French wife. The label name was taken from her home town in north-east France which was the location of a famous battle in 1870. I was in touch with Carl for a few years before he died and he always maintained that he never had any copies or the master tapes. After he died I kept in touch with his family. The rumours of a find might have started at this point. When Mick H bought it from me I did let it be known that the family were in the process of clearing out a massive barn and the possibility that some might be found could not be discounted. As it transpired no copies ever surfaced. The long search for Arthur Willis has also been a fruitless one. I think the 45 will always be a rare one ... but we never know what might be around the corner Andy

It is of interest to note that the original version of 'This love starved heart of mine (it's killing me)' was actually recorded in Los Angeles by Al Wilson. The writers, Helen & Kay Lewis, cut the track on Al in the hope that it would secure him a deal at Motown. Obviouslty that was never to be. Helen was completely unaware that Marvin had recorded the track until i discussed it with her many years later Andy

In a nutshell yes .. they have newly made acetates/carvers or whatever The pictures came from a later visit to Rose's basement. It really was a treasure trove. I'm sure I wrote something about it at the time that was a Soul Source article .. Record Hunting in the USA or similar .. she is an awesome lady Andy

There are too many but for me .... It's A Desperate Situation .. from the Love Starved Heart 'Lost & Found' CD .. the epitome of a man in pain.. and Ivy Jo's unreleased demo version is as good Was It A Dream .. his duet with Oma Heard Bitter Pill To Swallow .. from the MPG album .. we could go on and on Andy

As Steve said he found it with Rob in Rose's basement on a USA trip that i didn't go on. I recall Rob called me from the States and played it over the phone and I was knocked out. Personally i think it's a fantastic record to listen to and brilliant to dance to. It received it's first play at a Bishop Auckland soul night and I think I played it in virtualy every set I did until I stopped DJing. Rob didn't tend to play it much in those days and did give a few people copies including Ady P and Roger. It's good to know it is still getting some spins There is only one original acetate which I have sitting at home. The pic on the Scenesvill flyer is actually Wallie Hawkins and Rose Marie McCoy and not just some random people used as fillers. Hope that helps Andy

I spoke to Elizabeth Vanover a few years ago about this 45. Her late husband owned Pet Records. She told me that she had no copies of the record, no master tapes and the little documentation she had left gave no clues as to the identity of King Moses. She also said that she had done a licensing deal with a company "from London" who wanted to release it Andy

I didn't realise he was a member .. i'll give that a go but if you can contact Dawn as well that would be great I can be contacted at AndyRix@aol.com thanks Andy

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Does hanybody have contact details for Nick .. the tel numbers I have are no longer working thanks Andy

It might be in a Kent comp but I have a copy at home which I can send you a scan of mail me at AndyRix@aol.com and i'll send it via normal e-mail I struggle with uploading files via Soul Source Regards Andy

The Devonnes I do believe Andy

So what do people think about Saundra Edwards Mr Manship - have you had it in stock ?? Andy