Andy Rix

As far as I can determine Nellie still lives there and is called Nellie Parks. The address is also occupied by Cleveland Thomas Andy

Contact: NELLIE THOMAS DBA THOMAS SISTERS MUSIC 14590 STRATHMOOR DETROIT, MI 48227-2870

John Manship has noted on his auction of the Prophets - If I Had (one gold piece) - that there are only 3 known copies. Is that right ? I thought there were more unless the one he has has been doing the rounds .. Jim Edleston to Steve Chadwick to Lew Stanley then ?? Mine has seen better days but not as bad as The Counts !! Andy

Kenny Lewis & Maxx Kidd did write this along with 'Mr Big Shot' whilst Shrine was still operating .. I guess they were just looking to earn some extra cash as independent songwriters given that Shrine wasn't doing too well Andy

Yes Simon .. good catch .. recorded at Herb Abramson's A-1 Sound Studios .. I'd forgotten about that Gary Chester playing the drums Andy

The unreleased tracks TIPPIE & THE WISEMEN - LET ME WALK AWAY wr. Eddie Singleton-Harry Bass-Stanley Ossman, arr. Miss Ray, pr. Eddie Singleton-Harry Bass TIPPIE & THE WISEMEN - WAIT TIL I GET THERE wr. Harry Bass-Stanley Ossman, pr. Harry Bass-Eddie Singleton, arr. Miss Ray TIPPIE & THE WISEMEN - I WOULDN'T MIND CRYING wr.Eddie Singleton, pr. Eddie Singleton, arr. Dale Warren. TIPPIE & THE WISEMEN - BYE BYE wr. James Duvall-Harry Bass, pr. Eddie Singleton-Harry Bass, arr. Eddie Singleton. BOBBY REED - CALDONIA BROWN wr. unknown, pr Clay Roberts, arr. Freddy Perrin supervised by Eddie Singleton. BOBBY REED - BABY DON'T LEAVE ME wr. unknown, pr Clay Roberts, arr. Freddy Perrin supervised by Eddie Singleton. LITTLE BOBBY PARKER-I WON'T BELIEVE IT 'TIL I SEE IT wr. Eddie Singleton, arr. Dale Warren, pr. Eddie Singleton TRACI - TAKE IT FROM ME wr. Eddie Singleton, arr. & pr. Eddie Singleton CAUTIONS - FALL GUY wr. Felix Blanchard-Bruce Jones-Eddie Singleton, arr.& pr. Eddie Singleton CAUTIONS - TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR BABY wr. Harry Bass-Joseph Clyburn-Eddie Singleton, arr.& pr. Eddie Singleton , Ramitary & Renleigh Music (BMI) CAUTIONS - I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND wr. John Lennon-Paul McCartney,arr.& pr. Eddie Singleton , Northern Songs (BMI) JIMMY ARMSTRONG - I BELIEVE I'LL LOVE ON wr. Eddie Singleton, arr. Dale Warren, pr. Eddie Singleton JIMMY ARMSTRONG - IT'S GONNA TAKE LOVE wr. Eddie Singleton, arr. Dale Warren, pr. Eddie Singleton LEROY TAYLOR & FOUR KAYS - I AIN'T WORRIED ABOUT YOU wr. Eddie Singleton, arr. Dale Warren, pr. Eddie Singleton THE FOUR KAYS - FUNKY MONKEY wr., arr.,pr., unknown THE D.C. BLOSSOMS — THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE wr. Keni Lewis, arr & pr. Unknown

THE JET SET RELATED 45s NO. ARTIST TITLE WRITERS ARRANGER (arr.) PRODUCER (pr) PUBLISHER 768 JIMMY ARMSTRONG I Won't Believe 'Til I See It Eddie Singleton arr. Dale Warren pr. Eddie Singleton & Dimitri Villard Ramitary & Cloven Hoof Music 768 JIMMY ARMSTRONG I'm About To Say Goodbye Eddie Singleton arr. Ray Singleton pr. Eddie Singleton Ramitary & Cloven Hoof Music 1005 BARBARA LONG Take It From Me Eddie Singleton arr. & cond. Dale Warren pr. Caspar Davis & Dimitri Villard dir. Ray Gordy Ramitary & Cloven Hoof Music 1005 BARBARA LONG We Called It Love Eddie Singleton arr. & cond. Dale Warren pr. Caspar Davis &Dimitri Villard dir. Ray Gordy Pera Music 1007 STRINGS 'N THINGS Charge Dale Warren arr.& cond. Dale Warren pr. Caspar Davis & Dimitri Villard dir. Ray Gordy Cloven Hoof Music 1007 STRINGS 'N THINGS Fabulous New York Christopher Cerf Leon De Yong arr. & cond. Dale Warren pr. Caspar Davis& Dimitri Villard dir. Ray Gordy Cloven Hoof / Resistance Music 1009 JIMMY CASTOR Fabulous New York Christopher Cerf Leon De Yong arr. & cond. Dale Warren pr. Caspar Davis & Dimitri Villard dir. Ray Gordy Cloven Hoof / Resistance Music

This might go some way to answer .. Ramitary published songs which means they were composed during the life of Shrine Records as a corporation The Ramitary songs & associated releases JACKIE WILSON - SHE'S ALL RIGHT - BRUNSWICK 55273 wr. Eddie Singleton, dir. Ray Gordy, pr. Nat Tarnopol, BRC & Ramitary Music JACKIE WILSON - I BELIEVE I'LL LOVE ON - BRUNSWICK 55283 wr. Eddie Singleton, arr. Dale Warren, pr. Eddie Singleton-Nat Tarnopol, BRC & Ramitary Music JACKIE WILSON & LaVERN BAKER - THINK TWICE - BRUNSWICK 55287 wr. Eddie Singleton, arr. Dale Warren, pr. Eddie Singleton-Nat Tarnopol, BRC & Ramitary Music LADA EDMUND JR. - SOUL AU GO GO - DECCA 32007 wr. Eddie Singleton-Lada Edmund Jr, dir. Ray Singleton, pr.Eddie Singleton, Dala & Ramitary Music LADA EDMUND JR. - THE LARUE - DECCA 32007 wr. Eddie Singleton-Lada Edmund Jr, dir. Ray Singleton, pr.Eddie Singleton, Dala & Ramitary Music THE SHIRELLES - TEASIN' ME - SCEPTER 12178 wr. Eddie Singleton-L DeYoung, pr. Dynamic Duo Creations, arr. Ray Singleton, Flomar & Ramitary Music EPSILONS - MIND IN A BIND - HEM 1003 wr.Eddie Singleton, arr. & pr. Eddie Singleton, Jobete Music (BMI) EPSILONS -IT'S ALL RIGHT -HEM 1003 wr.Eddie Singleton, arr. & pr. Eddie Singleton, Ramitary Music

I believe only Linda & Vistas was recorded in NY as mentioned previously. I think that a couple of the tracks .. Shirley Edwards & Les Chansonettes ... were pressed and then remixed at Bell Sound in NY then pressed again. This is why there are slight variations and different releases/matrix numbers for those 45s. The Bell Sound studios mixes are annotated as RE-1 in the run-out Andy

Eddie said that he wrote 'Don't Bring Back Memories' ... it's pre-Shrine so 'other work' ... he took the acetate to Motown after Shrine closed but put Miss Ray's name forward as the writer as he thought that Berry wouldn't tolerate the recording of anything he's composed. What is interesting is that a Motown collector friend of mine acquired a reel-to-reel of unreleased Motown tracks from the Woodward Building clear out and the Tommy Knight acetate is on this tape ..... and as far as I can tell when comparing the snap, crackle & pop with the acetate that Ian Clark sourced it is in fact the same item.... Eddie thought that the subsequent 4 Tops version did not do the song justice Andy

i know this is going slightly off-topic but I was just checking to see if I had the list of Ramitary songs, which was in essence the music publishing company for Shrine, that were recorded and released on other labels Anyway I found this old mail from Harry Bass which I thought was so evocative and my mention of the Matadors made me think I should share it. The Epsilons he refers to are not the same group who would record for Shrine .... "Today we are watching the Redskins football game on the T.V. So I will be as brief as possible. The Matadors group actually evolved from a teenager street corner doo-wop ensemble. We were my younger brother Albert who out sang Frankie Lyman on any given day of the week, (more lungs, more clarity of tone and vocal range.)Tommy is my witness. We were all music students in instrumentation notation and voice. Then, we were the Epsilons. I had begun my own music studies at the age of eleven (11) in the public schools of Brooklyn New York. Vocal training for me began in Middle School. The rest of us had started with similar training. Then my friend, it was doo-wop all the way. Roy Scott and Michael Edwards and a cat named Richard Steele joined together with Albert and I to form The Epsilons. We were harmonizing on the Street corner, a block away from our apartment and up walked Tommy Bethea who just joined in singing with us as bass vocal accompaniment. It was indescribably fantastic. Tommy Bethea had the deepest, clearest bass voice in all of Brooklyn. His addition to our ensemble made our group nearly complete. In time we would link up with Richard Tenryke (Ritchie Tee) the classically trained pianist who would travel with us to Broadway for recording auditions and finally for Ed Singleton. (Paul Simon and Roberta flack organized a memorial service for Tee upon Tee's passing) I must say that prior to our marriage my wife Shirley Jean sang and did choreography work with us for about a year. Eddie and the group decided on a new name for us. We would call ourselves the Matadors. Under that name we recorded "If you left me today", on Keith Records, got some air play and could hardly breathe for the excitement this experience generated. Later we realized that another vocal group had the name Matadors. So we became the Toreadors. This was part marketing strategy and also an expression of cultural solidarity with the Spanish speaking community members proliferating in NYC There were many Puerto Rican doo-woppers, same as us and the Italians doing street corner work. Also, the thing was, that we had designed some Matador style costumes and could not afford to scrap the costumes. So we became the Toreadors. Long story short, by the time we had worked the Apollo Theater ,doing back up vocals for Jackie Wilson, Thanksgiving 1964, the group membership had changed a bit to Myself ,Michael Edwards, Roy Scott and a former Marine Corps buddy of Tommy's named Jimmy Hall. Jimmy was barrell-chested and had a first tenor that would knock down walls. You'll hear him when Tommy sends you our "Do You Remember" cuts. Jimmy was a really good friend to everyone in the group; a bit older and wiser about the ways of showbiz. He's another one who got away (we eventually lost contact after our move to D.C.) Finally the cats who remained to sing backing vocals behind Ray Pollard on the Shrine roster, were Michael Edwards, Harry Bass and Tommy Bethea. My younger Brother Albert is now a retiring employee Managerial level for the New York State Port Authority (he’s got about 250 days before his formal retirement from the Federal Government.) Roy Scott and Michael are deceased. Jimmy Hall remains in obscurity. My wife Shirley is by Gods grace alone, with me. This is a fair description of how I got started with my group. Redskins win 14-11. Many thanks for your stated interest, Harry E. Bass" I hope it was of interest Andy

Linda Tate recorded 'Believe Me/It's Not My Will' and 'He Went Away/Bad Apple' in New York The first version of 'Believe Me', which is slightly faster than the Assault release and features prominent bongos was cut at the A-1 Sound Studio. The second version was recorded at Bell Sound and was scheduled for Prawn Records which I'm sure was one of Eddie Singleton's labels and saw other releases from the Toreadors aka The Matadors, who had releases on Keith Records, named after Eddie's son, ..... it was group members of the Matadors who did backing vocals for Jackie Wilson 'She's Alright' (Brunswick) which is the first known recording of a Ramitary published song and the Ray Pollard and Shirley Edwards Shrine 45s .. plus others of course. Harry Bass was in that group The third version of 'Believe Me' was probably cut at Bell Sound as it is very similar to version 2 .. this was released on Assault. 'He Went Away' was a master Eddie then took to Washington as he had not used it to follow-up the Assault 45 and so released it as the first Shrine 45.. This was also recorded at A-1 Sound Studio ....Abtone was the studio Eddie used for Tommy Knight's 'Don't Bring Back Memories' session.... and Tommy also recorded 'Baby My Love' there I believe, but have never be fully able to confirm, that Linda married Billy Brown of the Moments and if it is the same 'Linda' then she is now deceased. Linda Tate, according to Harry Bass, spent some time with the Ad Libs doing live shows after 'The Boy From NY City' was a hit because Mary Ann Thomas was unavailable to perform. Andy

I've got them all still.... As we all know The Counts is in bits but nobody said are they all playable !! Andy

It is good ..... I really want to hear the band track for 'You Only Live Twice' ...that would be just awesome Ady

What did the article say Bob .. was any title given ? Andy

I still have the pieces but it can't be mended i'm afraid. I also still have the envelope Richard Collins' mother put it in. I look at it sometimes and weep. Richard actually had two copies that he got from his Aunt Azelle when I asked him to contact any relatives he might have given one to in the 60s .. he threw one away before telling me he'd found them as he said it looked a bit used. So a double blow on that one. No other member of the Counts, and I spoke to them all, ever located another copy. Raymond Davis, of the Prophets, took a 25 count box of 'If I had (one gold piece)' home with him that he distributed amongst family and friends .. he also was never able to locate a surviving copy. I did eventually source a copy from Maxx Kidd but it had endured a rather hard life. Andy

Carla Thomas .... I'll never stop loving you

Well done Pete .... I assume he contacted you and it wasn't a dream like the one I had !! Andy

... I think Ady C contacted her recently ..... I'd be useless on Facebook !! Andy

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Telma-Hopkins/113386892008411 This is her page ........

No further news from the Andantes ... but I'm still expecting responses. I think what Louvain has said so far seems to indicate none of the girls sang lead. Last night I had a dream that it was Martha Star on lead .. not that stupid really given the Don Mancha connection .. might go and compare some songs to see if the vocals match up Could 'we' ask Telma Hopkins or Joyce Vincent ? ,,, think they are on Facebook .. I'm not Andy

Thank you I'm told there's a 45 on Tasco by Joe Parker called 'Not too long ago' Can anybody confirm Andy

I don't know !! Do you have full label info ? Andy

Does anybody have any info on Tasco Records which was, I believe, a subsiduary of White Cliffs Has the discography in post #32 been updated at all thanks Andy