Sebastian

Excatly. ORIGINAL: RE-PRESS

I don't know which came first, but neither the black print or brown print are bootlegs. As far as I know, the Bobby Copney 45 was the first release on TUFF which utilised the plain yellow/orange label. Previous releases from TUFF 402-413 had been on a multicoloured label with black print. I've only seen Bobby Copney with brown print on the label, so perhaps the following three 45s were also first released with brown print, but I don't know. Does Bobby Copney exist with black print? There seems to have been some confusion as whether to use brown or black print on the new plain yellow/orange label design and at least three of the releases exist with both brown and black print. Perhaps those three that exists with both black & brown print indeed were pressed slightly later due to demand, but have in mind that TUFF 419-421 exclusively seems to exist with black print (please, correct me if I'm wrong), and then 422 is again available with both black and brown print on the revived design that was earlier used for TUFF 369-401. So the time-span in which this all can have happened is limited. I've seen the following releases with: MULTICOLOURED LABEL WITH BLACK PRINT Tuff 413 - Landy McNeil - Hang Your Soul On Me / Show Me - 1965 YELLOW LABEL WITH BROWN PRINT Tuff 414 - Bobby Copney - Love Au-Go-Go / Ain't No Good - 1965 YELLOW LABEL WITH BROWN or BLACK PRINT Tuff 415 - Bobby Treetop -So Sweet, So Satisfying / Valentine - 1965 Tuff 417 - Bobby Treetop - Wait Till I Get To Know Ya / Valentine - 1965 Tuff 418 - E. Rodney Jones - R & B Time (Part 1) / R & B Time (Part 2) - 1965 WHITE PROMO ONLY (DOES AN ISSUE EXIST?) Tuff 416 - Ronnie Savoy - Pitfall / On The Spanish Side - 1965 YELLOW LABEL WITH BLACK PRINT Tuff 419 - Little Joe Roman -When You're Lonesome (Come On Home) / We Got A Love - ? Tuff 420 - Vicki Anderson - I Can't Stop Loving You / I Got A Good Man (And I Know It) - 1967 Tuff 421 - E. Rodney Jones - Peace Of Mind / Do The Thang - ? REVIVED "ROUND LOGO" LABEL WITH BROWN or BLACK PRINT Tuff 422 - Mickey & Larry & The Exciters - My One Chance To Make It / Reaper Of Rain - ?

So I guess it looks like the below two are the only variations: Tuff 415 - Bobby Treetop - So Sweet, So Satisfying / Valentine - 1965 Tuff 417 - Bobby Treetop - Wait Till I Get To Know Ya / Valentine - 1965 "R&B Time" or any kind of instrumental was never included as the b-side on the official releases of either of those 45s.

The reissue (bootleg?) of TUFF 417 has got "R&B Time" on the flipside. I have no idea whether it's the actual instrumental of "WTIGTKY" or if it's the E. Rodney Jones vocal that is included though. That's perhaps where the confusion comes from?

Archie Bell is a $5-$10 record at the very most. Don't pay more.

Haven't had time to listen yet. Which side of the Lori & Lance was played? I've seen it mentioned that Lori & Lance might be Victoria Williams and J.B. Ledbetter. Does anyone know if there is any truth to that? "I Don't Have To Worry" on the Federal 45 is written by Ledbetter and both the Federal 45 and the VW&JBL 45 on Verve are produced by Bobby Smith.

Do you know if this got a 45 release in the US? Have only ever seen the NZ issue.

It costs 72 NOK to send an LP from Norway to England. That's about 10. 12.10 is a bit high, but not as unreasonable as it might've seemed. When sending LPs from Sweden to Europe it costs me 92 SEK ($14) and 102 SEK ($15.50) to the rest of the world. Those are the actual shipping costs. Crazy. I only sell cheap LPs (£10 or less) to swedish customers nowadays.

Yes I did post them in refosoul. Got a lot of grief from especially Gavin Stearn about it who was going to write, and I quote, "to univesal and forwarding your posts so they can have you on a plate. hope they make an example of you"... so I asked Mike to take them down. It just wasn't worth the hassle. But anyone with even the most simple google skills could find those "stems" or "multitracks" as they are usually referred to as. They are all over the place.

A couple of years back I got ahold of the full 8-track "stem" of Marvin & Tammi's "Ain't No Mountain High Enough". It was an absolute joy to listen to and to work with. It really gave me an insight to what went down in the studio. I.e. "soloing" the vocals, percussions, drums, guitars, strings etc. Then adding them in together, just vocals and bass etc. Hard to describe, but it's awesome.

The big reason why the 6T's 45s go for so much money is because they usually are the first ever vinyl release for many of the tunes, not just a reissue of readily available tunes (Darrell Banks, Belita Woods etc. as in your example above).

That's a monster of a tune!

Could be, but I've never seen one. Would be great to see a picture of it.

Have never seen the original of this on styrene? Do you have a scan? Would be nice to see just for reference. The title on the original release is "Your Number 1", not "You're Number 1".

That doesn't mean that all of them are in equal demand though. Or that none of those 400 have been thrown away or broken. Stating the blatantly obvious here but... the amount of copies around is not the only thing that dictates the price of a 45.

It's fantastic. I absolutely loved Memphis and the vibe there. Venturing outside of Memphis as well to Greenwood, Tupelo, Muscle Shoals, Money, Tallahatchie Bridge, Robert Johnson's grave site (one of them at least...) and Nashville were also highlights. Can't wait to go back some day. Will try to take in New Orleans next time as well.

I'm forever grateful for the tips I got from you and Dean before I went there last year. Made the trip so much better and easier than it would've been otherwise. Definitely. Had almost forgotten about that. Try not to make eye contact with anyone when out walking downtown.

For records, check out: Goner Records Shangri-La Records also the souvenir/CD store on Beale Street might have some decent LPs/12"s in the back of the store. Al Green's church for a sunday ceremony. Check out if there are any decents concerts going on at: Hi-Tone Cafe Blue Plate Cafe is great for breakfast. Bluff City Coffee is one of the few places where you can get a decent cup of coffee. Arcade Cafeteria is nice for breakfast/pancakes. The train station just around the corner is also worth a peek. Fantastic ribs at: Charles Vergos Rendezvous (thanks Mr. Rounce for the tip!) Bardog Tavern is a nice bar downtown with a good variety of beers and decent food. Graceland. Stax. Sun. Ardent Studios. Royal/Hi Studios. National Civil Rights Museum and Lorraine Motel. The Cooper/Young area is good for antique stores, nice restaurants etc. Goner Records is in this area as well. If you're into severely shady bars/hangouts, check out The Lamplighter Lounge. Try to make a trip to Fame Studios / Muscle Shoals and get a tour if you've got time for it. If you have time for it, spend a day or two in Nashville as well.

I suppose you mean "R&B" in the broad "Billboard R&B chart" type of way? Because if anyone consider "Pusherman" to be "rhythm & blues" in the "new breed r&b" sense then I give up... "Don't Start Cryin' Now" by Slim Harpo is r&b.

Loving this at the moment:

The "Motown Rarest Of The Rare 45's" list on David Flynn's site might be a good place to start: https://anorakscorner.homestead.com/RarestOfTheRare-Motown45s.html Gordy 7004 Hattie Littles - Back In My Arms Again Gordy 7088 Bobby Taylor & The Vancouvers - Oh! I've Been Blessed Gordy 7089 Lollipops - Cheating Is Telling On You/Need Your Love Gordy 7091 Terry Johnson - My Springtime Mel-O-Dy 10I Creations This Is Our Night Mel-O-Dy 104 Charters - Trouble Maker Motown G-1 Miracles - Bad Girl Motown TLX2207 Miracles - Bad Girl Motown 1000 Satintones - My Beloved/Sugar Daddy (no strings) Motown 1000 G-3 Satintones - My Beloved/Sugar Daddy (with strings) Motown 1001 Eugene Remus - You Never Miss A Good Thing/Hold Me Tight (no strings) Motown 1001 Eugene Remus - You Never Miss A Good Thing/Gotta Have Your Lovin' (with strings) Motown 1001 180-W Eugene Remus - You Never Miss A Good Thing/Gotta Have Your Lovin' Motown 1006 Satintones - Angel/A Love That Can Never Be Motown 1006 Satintones - Tomorrow And Always/A Love That Can Never Be (with strings) Motown 1006 Satintones - Tomorrow And Always/A Love That Can Never Be (no strings) Motown 1008 Contours - Whole Lotta Woman Motown 1008 Supremes - I Want A Guy Motown 1010 Satintones - I Know How It Feels Motown 54031 Mabel John - Who Wouldn't Love A Man Like That Motown 1012 Contours - Funny Motown 1018 All Stars - Disintegrated Pt.1&2. Motown 1020 Satintones - Faded Letter Motown 1033 LaBrenda Ben & The BelJeans - Came Walk Motown 1044 Supremes - A Breath Taking, First Sight Soul Shaking...(long title) Motown 1046 Serenaders - If Your Heart Says Yes Motown 1061 Mary Wells - When I'm Gone Motown 1112 Barbara McNair - Steal Away Tonight/For Once In My Life Motown 1144 Jonah Jones - For Better Or Worse Motown 1155 Spinners - She's Gonna Love Me At Sundown Motown 1160 Chuck Jackson - The Day The World Stood Still Motown 1168 Blinky (Sandra Williams) - How You Gonna Keep It Soul 35007 Merced Blue Notes - Do The Pig Soul 35009 Earl VanDyke - All For You Soul 35019 Frank Wilson - Do I Love You (Indeed I Do) Tamla 101 Marv Johnson - Come To Me (no address) Tamla 102 Eddie Holland - Merry Go Round Tamla 54022 Barrett Strong - Let's Rock Tamla 54024 Chico Leverett (Charles of The Satintones) - Solid Sender Tamla G7012 Contours - Shake Sherry Tamla 54024 Swinging Tigers - Snake Walk Pt.1&2 Tamla 54025 Ron & Bill (Ron White & Bill Robinson of The Miracles) - It Tamla 54026 Satintones - Going To The Hop Tamla 54028 A-1/2 Miracles - You Can Depend On Me/The Feeling Is Fine Tamla 54028 A-1/2 Miracles - You Can Depend On Me/The Feeling Is Fine (alt.take) Tamla 54026 Downbeats (Elgins) - Request To A Fool Tamla 54028 Miracles - Way Over There (alt.take) Tamla 54030 Singin' Sammy Ward - What Makes You Love Him/Who's The Fool (stripes) Tamla 54030 Singin' Sammy Ward - That Child Is Really Mine/Who's The Fool (globes) Tamla 54031 Mabel John - Who Wouldn't Love A Man Like That Tamla 54036 Miracles - Ain't It Baby Tamla 54037 Gospel Stars - He Lifted Me (stripes) Tamla 54038 Supremes - I Want A Guy (globes) Tamla 54040 Mabel John - No Love (long intro) Tamla 54045 Supremes - I Want A Guy (globes) Tamla 54067 Sandra Mallett & The Vandellas (Sandra Edwards) - Camel Walk Tamla 54081 Mabel John - Who Wouldn't Love A Man Like That Tamla 54106 Kim Weston - A Little More Love Tamla 54144 Brenda Holloway - 'Til Johnny Comes Home Tamla 5501/F1/2 Nick & The Jaguars - Ich-I-Bon #1 VIP 25001 Patrice Holloway (He Is) The Boy Of My Dreams VIP 25006 Andantes - Like A Nightmare VIP 25008 Oma Heard (Oma Page) - Lifetime Man VIP 25020 Isley Brothers - I Hear A Symphony VIP 25021 Velvelettes - A Bird In The Hand VIP 25025 Dalton Boys - Take My Hand VIP 25028 Majestics (The Monitors) - Say You VIP 25029 Downbeats (The Elgins) - Put Yourself In My Place VIP 25044 Debbie Dean - Why Am I Lovin' You VIP 25067 Chuck Jackson - Who You Gonna Run To Anna 101 Voicemasters - Hope & Pray Anna 102 Voicemasters - Needed Anna 103 Hill Sisters - Hit And Runaway Love Anna 1109 Larry Darnell - With ears In My Eyes Anna 1113 Letha Jones & The Rivals - I Need You - I Got That Feeling Anna 1113 Letha Jones & The Rivals - I Need You - Black Clouds Check-Mate 1009 Willie Kendrick - The Best Is Yet To Come Harvey 122 Keith Moss - Satisfaction Guaranteed Miracle 2 Little Iva & Her Band (Raynoma Gordy) - When I Needed You Miracle 3 Gino Parks - Don't Say Bye-Bye Miracle 4 Andre Williams - Rosa Lee Rayber 1001 Wade Jones & The Rayber Voices I Can't Concentrate The Rarer 7" Picture Covers: Motown 1011 Mary Wells - I'm So Sorry Motown 1016 Mary Wells - Strange Love Motown 1024 Mary Wells - The One Who Really Loves You Motown 1027 Supremes - Your Heart Belongs To Me Motown 1032 Mary Wells - You Beat Me To The Punch Tamla 54044 Miracles - Broken Hearted Tamla SL4M 3114 Supremes - Things Are Changing (33 1/3 rpm) Motown Related 7" Promos: City Of Detroit no # Willie Horton & The Supremes - Detroit Is Happening Motown DML294-M05 Christine Schumacher with The Supremes - Mother You Smother You Standard Groove 13090 Miracles - That's Why I Care About Detroit Tamla no # Brenda Holloway - Play It Cool, Stay In School Tamla no # Mavin Gay - Witchcraft (note spelling of his surname) Plain Label no # Lee Allan & The Vandellas Set Me Free American International no# - The Supremes - Dr.Goldfoot & The Bikini Machine Hitsville USA DM097311/2 - Greetings To Tamla Motown Appreciation Society (300 copies)

Loving this at the moment. Lou Rawls making The Box Tops "The Letter" his own: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5-AFch7t0M

"Tell Me" WAS released on an official US Daptone 7" / 45. If you're talking about some other tune, please ignore this.

That's a styrene 45. So most likely just a "coloured in" demo/promo bootleg.

Or off the original, official US 45 for simplicitys sake.