Jason S

Pair of '70's Northern' classics up for grabs Mandrill - Too Late (Arista Demo) M- £80 James Walsh Gypsy Band - Cuz It's You Girl (RCA Demo) £100 EX (few very light marks) PM if you need them. Cheers Plus, some other stuff here all with soundclips

Recognise that copy from the slight click at the start You should have just emailed me and asked...would have told you what it was ...unless I'm wrong and it wasn't copied from this 70's stuff ...actually it is off that mix 'coz I can hear Clarence Carter fading out...

The album 'I'm Gonna Miss You' is consistently brilliant...track after track of quality. One of the best 60's albums? Up there. "Sweeter Than Sugar" "Glad I Met You "There Is No Sadness" "Love Song" "Hope We have" "I'm Gonna Miss You" "Girl I Need You" ...and on

Could have had Jazzman's copy at £800 last week ( and and thrice ) , mate...or my VG copy that went on ebay last night at a 'snip' ...but we've spoken about that already. Best off investing in a new PC so your bids go in on time ...failing that, you can sample it on the Midwest Funk comp. It ain't all that, really. Sounds like she's struggling for air and trying to sing at the same time. Seems hard, though.

Just sold my Steve Parks for £50...keep 'em peeled on ebay as they've turned up there a bit over the last few months, waiting on a copy of Executive Jam (think it's being walked from the States )

Just finishing off a big list, all with soundclips...if you'd like a copy email me at thecauldron@witchsbrew.co.uk Thanks

Last heard it in Oslo courtesy of Chris B (I think) and a f**kin good one it is too. Actually been listening to it a lot on the PC over the last week.

Mines got the same thing written in the same place on the label...not a hint of warp, though. Seen others with the same thing.

Then again, he could always splash a load on this copy from your old buddy, Ian... https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...4714310965&rd=1

As Girth says, the boots amusingly have some kind of copyright warning going 'round the outer edge of the label.

It's safe to say it's European, then ::Cue Punky telling us he got it in Botswana::

Could even be French. Wess was based in Italy (with the Airedales) but released stuff on Barclay in France as well as Durium in Itay. For some reason that M on top of the triangle with the 45 inside it reminds me of the same thing I've seen on Italian pressings. I think.

Looks sort of Italian to me...

Interesting stuff from Rod. Going back to the 'possible Carolina' origin of the record. The signature on the run-out reads Dcharles. Further investigation leads to the strong assumtion that this Dcharles almost definately refers to Dick Charles, a guy based in New York who not only ran his own Mastering service and studio in New York, but Mastered tons of stuff - varying from folk to soul to hip hop to disco mix acetates - over a period of some 30 years. He died in 2002. So that'd probably mean it wasn't out of the Carolinas but New York. Dorsey, being based in New York (Brooklyn, I think) would probably have used this guy to custom press these records. Exactly when, who knows (except Glenn Dorsey I guess) Exactly why? Probably to make money from stuff he'd had sitting around doing nothing. On reflection, it doesn't look all that amateurish: it certainly sounds amateurish, almost to the point of being un-useable. Which, if you like the tune, is a shame. I too couldn't help thinking there certain were 'political' motivations involved in that auction. Noticed the record's gone off auction now.

I asked a similar question to the person who I bought mine from, here's what I was told: "It was a track laid down by the Joneses in 79, but the lead vocal wasn't laid down til the late 80s. It was then waxed and it was so late in the game that the producers no longer had turntables and didn't notice the burned out vocal distortion" Shame the vocals f**k up like they do...almost becomes unplayable. Have you noticed the translucent 'brown' colour of the vinyl? Does that give any clues as to it's vintage?

Voices of East Harlem - Wanted Dead Or Alive (Just Sunshine)

Probably somewhere between £90 - £125 depending on who's selling.

It's actually 'modern soul' rooms at some Northern do's I've been to recently that I was most focusing on. Don't know if it's a generally widespread phenomenon of lengthy sets of House music in these 'modern soul' rooms countrywide, but the point I was trying to make was that elsewhere (at House do's for instance) the same records played would just be acknowledged and played as House records. No more, no less. I was really just trying to figure out why house music when played in one scenario was deemed to be something other than what it actually was (as stated on a Flyer that read 'Modern Soul') if nothing but part of the mechanics of a wider ideology obsessed with examining it's own notion of progression. That's all, really.

End of the day it's house music...so it has 'soulful' vocals, so a lot have 'real instruments', but most still have that house beat, and still have those House arrangements. They were made as House records, not as anything else, in the same way, for instance, that 'Northern Soul' records were never originally made as 'Northern Soul' records, but just soul records or R&B records or whatever. By anyone else's definition and when stripped of the 'aura' of being played in the Modern room at a Northern do for example (and thus allegedly becoming something other than house music; 'Modern Soul' if you like) it's just plain old house music, full stop. 'Soulful' maybe, yes, but House music...always. Beats me why folk who wind up in these rooms don't just seek out do's where they can hear the same records but played at clubs advertised as 'House' nights. Actually, I know the reason for this and it partly lies in the mystique of believing that it's not actually house music but 'progressive modern soul', with all the self-congratulatory feeling of 'pushing boundaries' that goes along with that. It's also the accompanying warm feeling of satisfaction in the belief that they're part of something better than what is actually probably better by a long shot. And it's also about the freedom to be able to operate in an environment of 'music fans' as opposed to mixing with civilians: basically it's largely about enjoying house music in a traditionally non-house music environment but under (sometimes and certainly in my recent experience) the banner of 'Modern Soul', as if to somehow validate it's inclusion in the Northern Soul scheme of things and to avoid the obvious connotations that the word 'House' would bring if printed on a flyer also bearing the term 'Northern Soul'. Think about it. Your average MAW 12" will be pressed in the thousands and distributed the world over. There are thousands of DJs playing the stuff (the same records in many cases) as nothing other than nice, anti-Judge Jules type house music. It's House music...albeit, better house music than your average chart stuff, but if a 'Modern room' at a do is going to feature hours of this stuff, it should be advertised as such...as a 'Soulful Dance' room, or a House room, or even a Soulful House room. Wasn't the Southport Soul Weekender re-named after they realised it had actually become a House and R&B event? Isn't it now called the Southport Dance Weekender? The important word missing there would be 'Soul' (?) What is baffling is when you get a room full of people 'dancing' to a house set in the Modern Room of Northern do, only for the same people f*** off back downstairs to the Northern room once someone starts playing a 70's set. You have to sit back and wonder at the oddity of it. It just smacks of falsity, a desire to either be seen to be at the 'cutting edge' of a sub section of a larger 'scene' or safely padded in the cotton wool of memories. It also smacks of limited knowledge and a fear of the unknown, in places. You're right, you could go to any bar and hear your Judge Jules type sound bouncing around the fuschia tinted walls and have glow sticks shoved in your face all night...you could also go somewhere where the DJs can actually put a set of Soulful House records together with some kind of direction, skill and structure, devoid of the often shambolic nature of a 'Northern Soul-esq' type presentation, with it's emphasis on presenting each record as a single entity, rather than using the whole to build up some kind of flowing, 'progressive' movement. Having worked in a store for 5 years that took in approx 10 new releases of this type each week, there's a handful (for me personally) that actually sound, not like House records, but modern day dancefloor soul cuts in a way that brings back the inventive arranging skills of the old stuff: Groove Collective's - Everything Is Changing, MAW/James Ingram - Lean On Me (still sounds amazing) Ledisi - Good Lovin, Underground Network - Love Is The Answer, SPJE - Sugar Baby Darling (still a bit banging but got enough about it to take it out of the ordinary) to name but the few. Probably just get grumbled at for listing 'oldies' and obvious stuff. Like someone said earlier, you have to wade through tons to hear one that stands out from the rest...and for me, it was stuff that didn't sound like House music that stood out from the rest, even if it was originally made as 'House' music. I haven't touched the stuff for a few years (and might have missed some truly high calibre, distinct stuff) principally because I got bored of essentially hearing the same record over and over, using the same formula over and over. If last week was anything to go by, they still do. Personally disagree with the consensus on the Negro mix of 'Sugar'. Housed up for mass appeal. Simple as that. The original's perfect in it's own right. But it's each to his own on these things, of course. I suppose, looking back, this is actually more a critique of the convenient 'redefinition' of a certain strain of House music - to fit with a scene's expectations and ambitions - than about Soulful House per se. For me, it all gets a bit predictable, in the main. Just my opinion, since the question was asked.

James 'Bootie' Tuten - This Is A Love Affair (Ultimate) Billy Boomer - I Like What She's Doing To Me (Blast) James Chappell - I'm Glad I Found You (Haywoods) Evans Pyramid - No I Won't (Smokah) - weird but somehow appealing Ramona Brooks - I Don't Want You Back (Q) Caviar - Never Stop Loving You (Survivor) Khaliq - Never Had A Love Like Yours Before (Brofeel) - from '87...sure as f**k doesn't sound like it. New Jersey Connection - Love Don't Come Easy (Carnival) - one of the best of it's time EVER...chooooon. Common Sense - I Really Love You (BC) might not be 80's, might just creep in... Raj - Somthing Inside (Oak tree) John Simmons - Ain't Nothing Like The Love (Sabrina) Pure Pleasure - By My Side (QC) There are but a few, all gettable, some might require a bit more wedge than others.

Nah mate...totally different mix altogether...probably a re-recording. ..not by someone trying to flog it to you, per chance? Why, nice of you to say so. I would provide audio evidence to back myself up, except I never made a recording of my copy before I flogged it.

I'd steer clear of the 12" of that If I were you...worse than dire. Different version, muddier mix...basically rubbish. And commonly worth £125 absolute tops...shouldn't be any more, should be considerably less. $600 reserve? Jesus!

On Uno Melodic? You Can't Turn Me Away/Give Me Your Love. or Searchin ?

Here Billy, next time you see a Halo for that price, gis a shout! I was under the impression the Marshal issue was the harder of the two (isn't it the first label?) and look as I have done, and for a good many years, I ain't seen either of the f**king, c**ting things for sale. :angry: Can't figure out why Doudou wants the Ron van Horne, though...now that IS doo-doo. Might have a Tolbert soundclip somewhere...if I find it I'll send it on (to the LL___ll something email, yes?) On second thoughts, email me at thecauldron@witchsbrew.co.uk and that way I'll be able to send it if I do find it.

Would that be Mr Dombrowe per chance? I don't have a spare but there was one on ebay up at sommat like $249.99...finished with no bids. Or you could try Manship...if you want to drop £300 on it... ...and you'll also want to flip it over as 'Smooth foxy Mama' is the shite side, 'Super Strong' is the tune