Jason S

Different record. It's the red 1975 record that's wanted.

Was thinking that the other day, too! This is the mid 70's dancer (wasn't it a big Mecca tune?) on Lovelite not the 60's thing which seems to be more abundant. Not sure really - be interesting to know

booty, repress, f**king ugly whatever it is...it's not a real one

On the flip of Come On Train on NUVJ ...sounds like they took the blueprint from 'Rainy Night in Georgia'!

A slight bump and infomercial post for those joining us late, site updated, some good stuff up for grabs.

You can hear the tracks from the Anthology here - fight with love is off 'The Beginning' album

...click link for list, all have soundclips taken from the sale copy. https://www.witchsbrew.co.uk/

You don't really see proper multicoloured one's for sale every week, probably all buried in collections, hence why there's a rush when one comes up, especially as it's the type of record that now has broader appeal than the NS scene.

I vaguely recall one going for a lot on ebay last year - over $400!

Your questions sometimes seem either to be thinly veiled digs at other people on this board, the board in general and the northern soul scene in general or a glimpse into some kind of inner torment where you pose questions that are loaded with nothing more than self-reflection, doubt and/or frustration, masquerading under the illusion of being philosophical ponderings. Like the one you just asked. Maybe there's some underlying ulterior motive for trying to start 'debates' except most of the time it ends up reading like some kind of vendetta designed to bring out the negativity you claim to want to avoid. Some of the topics you raise are interesting and I'm sure relevant to a lot of people, but when it's nothing more than a show of frustration at not getting the dues you reckon you've earned (and you seem to have been around a long time, so no doubt you have earned them) I suppose people naturally switch off or take the conversarion elsewhere: which no doubt annoys you. That one about buying, selling and collecting records was interesting, even if you did seem to ignore or belittle some pertinent replies.

Richard Domar's got one at £120

defo not him, though it does sound uncannily like him...decent albums though those two

Shazam? Yeah...it's failed on this - dude's obviously rockin some raer shizzle there (soulstrut speak I believe )

Absolutely isn't that...just used a credit up checking the whole thing - not pretty

jesus f*ck, what a voice! awesome

Grapevine, Hayley and Real Side all charge £10 (or near as damned it) for theirs (to use an example) and most resellers set the price at the same level...and they're UK pressed and distributed...twice your UK benchmark. Whatsmore, in the main thats for reissues, not limited run originals. I'll be selling the KGF for less than £10 per copy including postage. Of course I'll be making some money otherwise I'd be a chairty there to simply buy bulk at risk (before all this attention kicked off, btw) pass on records to people at cost and foot the agro of handling orders, packing, posting etc etc, plus losing a % through paypal etc. After that lot plus the purchase price it's hardly gonna make me the next Alan Sugar. This record is about a bunch of musicians having a laugh, making a record and selling it - I seriously doubt they're after a major record label contract!

expect to pay about £125/£150 tops (stone mint) for one...try the funk board, that's where this is probably in more quantity

Andy co-runs Lotusland Records and was part of this record's production...maybe even played on the record too. Not in Post 43 he doesn't...not that I can see...doesn't even mentioned Northern in that post...the Northern Scene only really came into question when Speedlimit started this thread (tell me he wasn't being paid off ) No, it smacks of a group doing what they enjoy - old records, old music and playing music that references old music and issuing it and selling it on a (traditionally) old music format...a 45rpm 7" single. I'm sure their real intent was to try to emulate the sound of the music that they all love without worrying if their actions were derivative, overtly referential or unoriginal - they'd be the first to acknowledge that it does all three of those! It's pointless judging something by what it's not - 'nu-soul' 'neo-soul' or 'organic soul' it aint, it has nothing in common with chart R&B and it isn't 'future soul' or any other modern day music type. It's a deliberate look back at a period when muic was golden and you can tell they had fun doing it! Ok, so it sounds more 60's soul than 60's funk and within that, sounds more 'northern' than Southern, etc, so by a process of elimination you can say they took the decision to make it sound similar to a certain 'sound': Northern. Big deal. Maybe they like that sounds, or maybe one of them lay in the tub humming a tune, fiddling with their bottle of Matey and suddenly had a eureka moment! Who knows? (can you still get Matey? ) Don't think it was at all cynical...if they were truly being cynical they'd have concocted some story about a 'mystery 45' that seems to have just appeared, ebayed them with scant info, dripped them out slowly and took as much money as possible...kind of like what has happened in the past with funk things and a certain Northern thing if you recall. Or failing that, got a few djs to play it covered up, built up the panic, held onto them for a few months then dripped them on ebay, watching them sell for $$$ (kind of like that utter tosh Frank Popp cover up!) before skimming out the remaining copies for as much as possible (kind like what people do with old records that they have 100's of...) and fielding the flack that would no doubt follow. Maybe he shouldn't have made a point of pointing out the limited run, maybe a few of them are old US-indie heads where the numbered limited edition 45 is the norm and just adds the air of 'uniqueness' to the object and they were making it in that spirit? Surley it's more cynical to use records to bolster your image, or to try to buy friends or to attempt to move closer to the top of some weird fictional league table? Anyway, this initially started with the funk crowd, not on here - The way this happened was that some of us heard this, albeit obliquely originally, made enquires and liked it enough to pre-order a load for resale. I can't speak for anyone else but I'll be doing them at what I consider a fair and reasonable price (nothing like £20+ that cheeky f**kers were asking for Nicole Willis, or the £20 that someone offered the Ellipsis reissue for on here a few weeks back!) and less than, say, Grapevine reissue 45's or the latest 45 from Real Sidelist for. But at that time that would have been a contemporary sound, not a 'throwback' sound, so in essence that point isn't really valid...nor are the other examples of then modern releases (King Tutt etc) being played because the arguement here is that it sounds deliberately retro, even though it's a new release. Because you like it? Because you like it more than some of the thousands of rarely played 60's and 70's releases that you may have heard? Because you're playing to an audience who have no bias towards new and old and no history to consider when they're out having a good time dancing to music? Because you think it's great and want to play it?

It does exist https://cgi.ebay.com.au/FUNK-PRINCE-ELLIS-A...6QQcmdZViewItem

The 7" says it's off Sun Power

Funnily enough it's probably more expensive on the individual to get a carver cut than to buy the real record when it comes out! I'm sure anyone downloading and cutting it to a carver would probably want a proper copy when it comes out - in a way cutting one yourself from an MP3 is almost like making your own one-off promo copy to promote the record with, which if it's used for that purpose and not for personal glory (aka covering up new releases for example) can only be a good thing for the band.

I'll have some of these for sale in a few weeks when it's finished

Cheers Russ List updated

All originals --------- Epitome Of Sound - You Don't Love Me (Sandbag) M- £100 Danny Moore - Somebody New (Allrite) M- £50 Sweet Breeze - Good Things (Willpower) M- £150 Classic Sullivans - Shame Shame Shame (Master Key) VG++ £135 Jive Fyve - If I Had A Chance To Love You (Decca) M- £50 Postage UK 1X 7" Recorded £1.65 each 7" thereafter=30p EUROPE 1X7" Standard Air £2 each 7" thereafter=30p EUROPE 1X7" Recorded Air £5 each 7" thereafter=50p USA/JAPAN 1X7" Standard Air £3 each 7" thereafter=30p USA/JAPAN 1X7" Recorded Air £6 each 7" thereafter=50p

Yeah, I realised that kinda didn't apply to the ladies in the strictest sense - mind you, it's not usually them who jump all over sales/wants threads...