Dave Moore

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Sorry, I was thinking of something else.

I would have thought 100UKP is about right for this for now. I saw one go for 40 quid a few months ago although I paid twice that for mine over a year ago. One things certain..it's started appearing on a few playlists again so if it does 'go' it'll be another one that people say "I could have had that for ***". Great record.

It's a valid question from someone who has just discovered the music and the varying factions of people who collect records on this scene. Fair play, there's never gonna be a 'definitive' answer and the dreaded 'DJ' word has already reared it's head. There are many different collectors and many will have their own reasons for the OVO passion. From a purely personal perspective, here's mine: As a non-DJing collector of OVO for all my adult life, (and we are the majority of collectors in my opinion, although on SS there does seem to be a disproportionate number people who regard themselves as DJs). my love of vinyl has nothing to with 'venues', nothing to do with what other people do nor indeed has it anything really to do with a 'scene' of any description. The "scene", doesn't enter into the equation. It's about music and the records they were made on. It's about appreciating the real thing as it was originally intended. It's about the whole ethos of searching out what the artists/writers/arrangers and producers created at the time on the format they created it for. The music may well sound just as good as an MP3 download, pops and crackles included, but holding the original vinyl in your hands 40 years after it was created, checking the publishing company and finding the names Ala King, Jobete, Harthon etc scribed on the label is a thrill that you either 'get' or you don't. The different types of releases, the demos, the promos, the test pressings. The cheap 10 quidder that turns into a massive rarity when the promo is considered? Or vice versa. The stories that each ands every one of the vintage 45s has lived through, be it sat on a shelf in a radio library or been handed down from person to person are fascinating. Discovering a local label that produced the well known copy, tracking down the artist of your favourite tracks and speaking about their careers, finding a pic sleeve that encapsulates the era, hearing a cracking song for the first time and discovering you've already got one, it's a B side!! and hunting down that elusive record that you've searched for decades when it finally makes it's way to your shelf are all feelings that you either 'get' or you don't. They don't have to cost the earth, most hard core collectors improve the quality and condition of their records as their collection grows. VG+ turns to MINT. Issue turns to DEMO, some even collect US AND UK 45s of the same release! Some even collect the US and UK Demos AND Issues of each release! For some the music and the records are the reason d'etre for being a soul fan, for many others it's the dancing, the venues, the social, and many other things but for the OVO collector...that's all peripheral. It's the music on the original vinyl that is the catalyst. Many collectors will quote the traditional 'ethos' of the scene as their reason for collecting 'real' records and that is also something I understand but not the reason I collect. You'd have to ask some else about that reason for collecting. As for the bootleg fraternity, I can't answer for them as I struggle to see what the attraction is of owning a snide of 'anything'. I doubt whether many people buy bootlegs and proudly store them at home on their shelves only to drag a few boxes down when mates come round. "Hey check this out...I've just found a "Fabulous Jades on Soul Galore!" Doesn't quite have the right ring does it? I have no source to back my theory up apart from my own experiences, but I suspect most bootlegs are bought by the said 'DJs' I allured to at the beginning. I think with the advent of the internet and the sweeping return of thousands of soul-fans to 'the scene' about a dozen years ago has led to an explosion of people who collect records but not for any of the reasons above. In fact, I know it has...I know many of them. Many non collectors of OVO seem to think that most collectors gather in darken corners, poring over the matrix details of some obscure Ohio local release that plods along like C/W and miss the point of the music. In my experience, it's quite the opposite. Collecting adds another dimension to being a soul fan. If anything collectors seem to celebrate the music with more abandon than non collectors (although that might be the company I keep!). It doesn't matter if you collect 10 quid records or 10 grand records, it's if you collect that's all that matters. I wonder if we could get a bootleg collector to add their perspective? Are there people who collect bootlegs to play at home? I know there are some collectors who play bootlegs to protect their originals (WTF?), and there are collectors who collect boots alongside their other 'runs' of labels, and there are definitley DJs who fill gaps in their playboxes within bootlegs but are there collectors of bootlegs ONLY?

The Hitsville site is ongoing. Lots more labels have been started over the past few months on the forum. It's a MAMMOTH task but we'll stick at it. We'll get there in the end. Lots of collectors record reviews and artist features on the main site too. If anyone wants to help out with good quality scans please get in touch. Here's the link to the Record label pages: HITSVILLE RECORD LABEL PAGES Here's the link to the homepage: HITSVILLE SOUL CLUB

Seems a fair price too considering condition.

Just testing Joe...

Bearsy, Here's a little beauty I picked up last year, not for sale unfortunately but quality Lp, in my favourite top 20 Motown lps of all time. Took me a while to find this one too. Good luck...

Update...

Having had the pleasure of two of Oz's finest over the Histville Weekender in September (Pete F and Denny J), I'm sure it'll be a roaring success. Having planned to attend the last two events, circumstances have prevented us. A concerted effort is planned for next year. Hope everyone has a great weekend! Ex Pats always seem to have a great outlook on their 'scenes' and I'm sure the photos will be worth seeing! Best to everyone down there...

Sales List Nov 2008 - Here's a list of bits before they go up on Ebay. Few US cheapies up for grabs. All 45s original and no quibble money back guarantee. Grading is by a collector (Me) and I'm picky! All prices in GB Pounds. Bank Transfers preferred but Paypal accepted but you pay Paypal thievery disguised as charges. (4%). Will take offers or trades on anything as usual. Lots of W/DEMOs I'm still searching for... Postage: To UK/Eurozone - 2 To US - 4 I can be reached on hitsville2648@earthlink.net Mae Young - No If, No Ands, No Buts - Karate W/DEMO- EX - 50 Splendours - Please Don't Go - Karate W/DEMO - Ex - 50 SOLD Ann D'Andrea - Don't Stop Lookin' - Jamie W/DEMO - VG+ smol - 25 Hot Tomales - Loves Intentions - Detroit DEMO - EX swol - 25 Joe Tex - If Sugar Was As Sweet As You - Dial W/DEMO - EX xol - 30 Melba Moore - Don't Cry - Musicor W/DEMO - EX - 50 SOLD Billy Gibson - You Want It, I Got It - MGM DEMO - VG+ - 20 Invitations - Girl I'm Leaving You - MGM DEMO - Ex - 30 Willows - My Kinda Girl - MGM DEMO - EX - 15 Lou Roberts - You Fooled Me - MGM (Rarer Black ISSUE) - Ex - 60 Wakefield Sun - Get Out - MGM DEMO Ex - 20 Formations - At The top Of The Stairs - MGM DEMO - Ex - 20 Dottie Cambridge - Save Oyr Love baby - MGM DEMO - Ex - 20 Jewels - We Got Togetherness - MGM DEMO - VG+ - 50 Sweet Things - I'm In A World of Trouble - Date - Ex - W/DEMO - 70 Invitations - What's Wrong With Me Baby - Dyno Voice - VG+ bb - 80 SOLD Ruby Winters - Just Like A Yo Yo - Diamond DEMO - EX - 20 Teddy Randazzo - You're Not That Girl Anymore - DCP W/DEMO - EX - 40 Glories - I Stand Accused (Of Loving You) - Date W/DEMO - VG+ sol - 20 Brenda Lee - Coming On Strong - Decca DEMO - Ex - 20 Len Barry - I Struck It Rich - Decca DEMO - EX - 25 Voyage - Same Old Song - Decca DEMO - Ex - 20 Leon Haywood - Its Got To Be Mellow - Decca DEMO - 20 Charmaines - Eternally - Date W/DEMO - Ex - 30 Glories - Security - Date W/DEMO - VG+ - 15 Glories - Sing Me A Love Song - Date W/DEMO - VG+ - 20 Glories - I Worship You - Date W/DEMO - EX - 100 Madeline Bell - Picture Me Gone - MOD W/DEMO (company sleeve) - Ex - 20 Irene Scott - Everyday Worries - Midas - EX - 20 IAP Co - Check Yourself- Colossus DEMO - EX sol (B side) - 30 Startells - What More Can I Ask For - Ex - 30 Bobby Bell - Drop Me A Line - RCA W/DEMO Ex - 30 Benny Gordon - A Kiss To Build A Dream On - RCA W/DEMO - EX - 20 ON HOLD Brook Benton - Where Does A Man Go To Cry - RCA W/DEMO - Ex - 15 Ruth Lewis - Hurting Ecah Other - RCA W/DEMO - Ex (Best version) - 20 Insiders - If You Had A Heart - RCA W/DEMO - Ex - 15 Geminis - You Put A Hurt On Me - RCA W/DEMO - Ex - 20 Geminis - Can't Let You Go - RCA W/DEMO - Ex - 20 Dynamics - You Make Me Feel Good - RCA W/DEMO - Ex - 50 Edward Hamilton - Thank You Mother - Mary Jane - Ex - 20 Moses And Joshua - Get Out Of MyHeart - Mala DEMO - Ex - 20 Melvin Davis - Save It - Mala DEMO - Ex - 20 New Perspective - Stoned Outta My Head - Maxwell - V Hard to find - W/DEMO - Ex - 40 Bobby Raylov - If We Can't Be Lovers - Lovinn - Ex - 25 Ed Bruce - See The Big Man Cry - Wand DEMO - Ex - 25

Hi Marc, I think one of the main reasons for the price resurgence in 45s like Betty Lloyd etc is the fact that many people who returned to the UK scene hadn't heard these records first time round. Once they wanted to start DJing then it was scramble to find something 'different' (at least to their ears).

Err, the clue is in the title of the thread.

Ah.

Harry, Tony Rounce offered one up (ISSUE) on the same thread for 250. Might still be worth a knock.

It worked OK for me but I don't 'get it". It's a lot of Youtube videos that've been lifted and put onto a website. I'm not quite sure what the point of the site is? Also, lots of the site looks like it's 'under construction' or the links go to a dead end like Gemm or somewhere. Is it designed to be a place for buying and selling 45s? It mentions buyong/selling/trading but I can't see how? Am I thick or summat?

Wonder if the first buyer feels 'duped'? Great record and one that was hard to find for long time. 100 extra copies? Doesn't seem that many in the big scheme of things.

John Anderson is the guy. If we could get him to write a book, now that would make me get mi wallet out!

All the bronco listing scans minus one (Johnny Wyatt - Mod....) are here: BRONCO LISTING

Absolutely.

Here's the one sided demo. Pretty sure the label for the Sad Sam sided demo is same.

Great News.

Shhhhhh! Don't spoil my fun. Bev (Wifey) still thinks it called - "You Ain't Got No TV!"

Simon, Don't worry about it Mate. We can't all be the same can we? Oh....And I try not to 'Purport" in public as the wife gets on to me about mi manners. I'll be at the Burnley Allnighter end of the month so I'll buy you a beer and we can purport together if you're around them parts.