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  1. Most record diggers will have at least a few of what became known over the years as simply ‘Little LPs’. The traditional soul fraternity are fortunate enough to have had a number of larger, better distributed labels show interest in producing these interesting discs including Atlantic, ABC, Okeh, King and of course Motown. But what on Earth was it that made the Stereo, 33 rpm, multi track, single 7inch disc, seem an attractive prospect? To appreciate the history of the ‘Little LP’, it’s probably best to revisit the historical timeline of the record industry and highlight its major developments and its relationship with its customers. The format for the 7 inch vinyl single was unveiled to the public and music industry as a whole, as far back as the first RCA industry wide bulletins on March 31st 1949 and would be consolidated by the major companies, led by RCA in the 1950s. Small, compact and more robust than previous discs, it became an immediate success and would remain the recognised, most popular format for music buyers for the next 50 years almost. The first RCA 45rpm singles were manufactured on fantastic, colour coded vinyl that allowed buyers to categorise their purchases by genres via the actual colour of the disc. (1) The early discs were manufactured and categorised as follows: Country and Western... (Green), Popular... (Black), Classical... (Red), Popular Classical... (Midnight Blue), Children's... (Yellow), Blues and Rhythm... (Cerise), International... (Sky Blue). Coloured wax/vinyl has been around since the very first 45s were issued. The innovative 7inch disc that had been under development for almost a decade, revolutionised the way record dealers could promote and sell the wares as well as providing the record buying public with a much better way of storing their music. The new discs weighed only 10% of what the previous shellac 12inch discs weighed, so distribution costs were slashed, mail order boomed and shelves were filled with much more product than in earlier times. Perfect for the post war booming, teenage record buying public. So how come, with the 45 rpm single being the dominant market format did the 7 inch, 33 Little LP come to fruition? Well, by the end of the fifties (from 1958 onwards), the stereo mix had been developed by a number of companies including Bell and Decca but had been perfected by Audio Fidelity, and RCA’s rival Columbia Records were stubbornly maintaining their 33 rpm format. Many labels were jumping on the new Stereo format and started releasing their 7inch single discs as such. Columbia especially fought the corner of the existing 33 1/3rd rpm format rather than adopt their rivals much vaunted ‘new system’ 45 format. But in 1958, stereo records were more expensive to produce and required updated, expensive equipment for them to be heard as intended. The record buying public weren’t quite ready at the time for these expensive changes and the format slinked back into semi-obscurity for a couple years leaving the Mono 45rpm single as king of the formats. The 33 Stereo single was still manufactured by some labels but it wasn’t looking too healthy for its future. However, Bernie Lowe’s Cameo Parkway record company, Philadelphia’s industry leading label decided to test the idea of the 33 single once again, but this time with a twist. They released Chubby Checker — PC 5001 but put 2 songs on each side. The addition of 2 extra songs couldn’t muster any record buyers enthusiasm though and the disc bombed. Both RCA and Columbia again tried with the format but they too struggled to make any worthwhile sales. It would appear that the 33 Single/EP was doomed. Not quite though. Archie Bleyer, owner of Cadence Records announced in 1961 that his company was releasing a series of six 7 inch 33 rpm discs with 3 songs on each side. They were called ‘Little LPs’. Unfortunately for Bleyer, his discs suffered the same fate as the previous 33 ones. You’d have thought that that was the demise of the 33rpm 7inch disc but once again...it wasn’t quite the dead duck many industry insiders thought it had become. The people who were paying particular attention to the amalgamation of multi tracked 7inch stereo records were the Seeburg jukebox company. (2) During the latter part of the ‘50s the 33 stereo single had been slowly gaining status with the jukebox companies who often issued them in packages of btwen 5 and 7 discs on one single artist, specifically for jukebox use and, by the autumn of 1962, Seeburg were close to unveiling what they claimed was a revolutionary new product and the 33 Little LP, if produced in stereo, would be a perfect match for the new stereo jukebox they were about to unleash. (3) Seeburg also felt that adult listeners bought albums and as such would respond to segments of those same albums being available at diners and entertainment spots. (4) The resulting promotion opportunities for their original LPs weren’t lost on the record companies either and by the time of the jukebox’s launch in 1963 Seeburg could boast an impressive roster of labels producing the Little LPs for their outlets including ABC Paramount, Decca, Mercury, RCA, et al. Seeburg not only saved the 33 Stereo Little LP, it drove the record industry to re-evaluate it, develop it and led to other Jukebox operators incorporating it into their business. By 1965 both Wurlitzer and ATI, the other 2 main operators were also utilising the format. With a purchase price of $1.49 per disc and the offer of 3 songs for 25c, jukeboxes were doing a roaring trade and at the same time promoting the full size LPs that they were predominantly culled from. (5) Despite being aimed solely at jukebox operators much of the distribution for the discs was conducted through the usual outlets and so many of the discs could also be found in retail outlets. As far as soul music on the Little LP format is concerned, most majors released their material in the format and the artists signed to the likes of ABC, Capitol, Okeh, Atlantic and of course Motown were well represented on the jukeboxes of the day. There’s even a good smattering of Northern Soul available in stereo at 33rpm on 7 inch. Barbara Lewis — Baby I’m Yours — Atlantic SD 8110 being a great example. Of course Motown became the most collectable of the soul label releases. Utilising the same artwork used on the full LPs from which the tracks are drawn the company benefitted from a promotional aspect as well as direct sales and some of them have become sought after items now. I’ve highlighted here the most popular ones and the only ones I can ascertain being a different cover to the original LPs are the Greatest Hits ones and the The Motown Sound: A Collection of 16 Original Big Hits Vol 6 which only show the six titles included as opposed to a full track listing which appears on the original LPs. The height of popularity for the Little LPs was undoubtably the mid 60s when Motown also hit its zenith so no surprise that their LP product features heavily. By the close of 1967, Seeburg had sold their Little LP operation, (Manufacturing and Inventory and Distribution) to Robert Garmisa’s Garmisa Distributing based in Chicago but Garmisa’s plan to release the Little LP versions in tandem with the full LP release hit a brick wall with record companies, distributors and jukebox operators alike and after only a year the company sold off its remaining inventory and called it a day and for a while no Little LPs were being produced. The Little LP would still have a couple of last breaths though when it was revived in 1970 by a couple of companies, Gold-Mor distributing Co, based in Englewood, NJ and owned by Bernie Yudkofsky would reduce the previous output by only releasing limited numbers of LPs every year and in the three years the company operated released a total of 57 titles. A little more productive was the second company that took on the task of issuing Little LPs, the Robert Prutting owned, Little LPs Unlimited which operated out of Northfield Illinois. Prutting was the son of a clarinet player and musical conductor who also worked for the Seeburg company, which was based in Chicago. During his work with his company he decided to reduce costs by issuing monochrome paper covers, (they were in fact envelopes) and as such the later ones don’t have the same sturdy vintage feel of the Seeburg manufactured ones. He did however keep the releases going until 1975 with a total of over 250 releases which included Motown’s Supremes and Four Tops - The Magnificent 7 and LPs by Diana Ross and The Jackson Five. With the records issued with great artwork, jukebox title strips and even small copies of the artwork to insert on the jukebox panels, the records relate a time and place in music that has now disappeared and as such it’s no surprise that collectors feel a certain affinity with them and their associated peripherals. Most of the soul LPs can be found with a little determined digging although a few can be difficult to locate but hey.....if it was too easy...it wouldn’t be worth doin’ eh? Dave Moore May 2014. Notes And References The first recognised commercial 45rpm single was a Country and Western song issued by RCA Victor as a green wax disc: Eddy Arnold The Tennessee Plowboy and His Guitar — Texarkarna Baby b/w Bouquet Of Roses — RCA Victor 48-0001 The origins of the word jukebox are shrouded in half truths, rumour and unsubstansive claims. The word is thought to have developed from the African word Joot (Dance) or Jook, (another African word meaning Wicked or Disorderly). Jook Houses or Juke Joints were shacks that black field hands frequented in the Southern United States to hear music and dance at. There’s no denying its origins lay in black musical culture. During the 30s and 40s as jukeboxes boomed, it was sometimes the only way many black artists could have their music in the ‘public domain’ as mainstream radio was pretty much a white medium only. As the development of Jukeboxes occurred, the small hole found on 33 Singles and Little LPs was used to trigger a mechanism that dictated the actual speed of the platter/rotation device on the machines. Most jukeboxes could play both 45 and 33rpm records within the same cabinet set up using this method of selecting the correct sped for the correct disc. Billboard Magazine Article dated 2 April 1962: Seeburg Concept Shakes Up Ops Approach To Buying Discs. In 1965 Capitol Records committed to the 33 Little LP when they made an announcement in Billboard Magazine that they were going to work stop releasing them through Seeburg’s program and would manufacture and distribute their own versions of the company’s LPs. Billboard Magazine Article: Capitol Coming With Little LPs dated 25 September 1965. site note: For those who prefer reading in a higher quality format or via other means a pdf version of the above article has been added below Past Comments Barry Jun 26 2014 01:22 PM Loved it. Cheers ------------------------------------------------- sludge7 Jun 26 2014 06:48 PM Great article! I had a whole bunch of records when I was a kid that were yellow and never realised there was any historical significance to that...! ------------------------------------------------- El Corol Jun 26 2014 11:21 PM Nice article Dave. ------------------------------------------------- turntableterra Jun 27 2014 03:27 PM always a good read mr moore. ------------------------------------------------- Flynny Jun 27 2014 04:54 PM Enjoyed that...would be great to see a similar feature on UK released EP's featuring Soul...anyone?! I'll chip in for the ones released in Japan where x47 were released by Motown alone ------------------------------------------------- wilxy Jun 27 2014 09:31 PM Interesting article Dave. -------------------------------------------------
  2. In the immortal words of Dave Mcadden; FUKNOSE!
  3. Prophets: Falls into that category of fantastic up-tempo 'banger' that because it's cheap and everyone knows all the words it gets shunted out of DJ boxes. But when collectors get together and are playing 45s, it's always 45s like this that get the old vinyl-heads nodding at each other at the bar wishing they were 18 again! I played it last year. Year before I played 'Moody Woman' Year before that I played 'Shotgun and The Duck' Year before that I played 'I'll Never Fall In Love Again' Etc.. Etc... The day there's no room for these gems to be dropped amongst the rarer, equally quality 45s, is the time I'll give it all up. Regards, Dave
  4. Only ever seen one of these in the flesh so to speak, that's Ginger Taylors. Anyone else got one? Been looking for one of these for over 20 years. It's a beaut! Regards, Dave
  5. Dave Moore posted a post in a topic in Look At Your Box
    Here you go Ted lad. Just for you. Had it 30 years or more myself. Regards, Dave
  6. This would usually warrant a move to the Soul Radio Forum but have decided to leave it in AATS for a few days in case it slips by a few people's radars. Worth a visit folks.... ;-) Regards, Dave (Mod Team)
  7. In view of Bob's recent passing and in order to prevent any uncomfortableness, have now closed this thread. Regards, Dave (Mod Team)
  8. No it's not, don't kid yourself Pete. "choon" is about the most annoying word in the English language. Rgards, Dav
  9. Wasn't this part of the stuff that Chris King 'found'. First time I hard it was when he played it off a C90 tape (maybe at the Ritz, I can't remember now), then he played a dub at Sheridans about 2002? The late Al Pollard was a fan and Chris cut him an acetate of it. I did know who this was and to my eternal shame have forgotten now. (Something that Al would never have done).
  10. Got it Mark. Great! I'm obliged Sir! Regards, Dave
  11. Brilliant! I'm much obliged Kev. Regards, Dave
  12. Hi All, Could some kind soul Soul-Sourcer furnish me with a good (300dpi) quality, scan of SB6 - 'Thank You Baby For Loving Me' - Atlantic? Any help greatly appreciated. Regards, Dave
  13. Saw them at the Ebony Magazine shindig a few years ago. They were great! You're in for a treat. Regards, Dave
  14. Dave Moore posted a post in a topic in Record Sales
    Following for sale: UKPs (Shipping from Spain 3UKP) 100% Guaranteed Gwen Owens - I Lost A Good Thing - Velgo (Green MINT-) - 60 SOLD Dee Edwards - All The Way Home - D Town (Only VG, plays fine but the odd pop). - 40 Jean Wells - With My Love And What You've Got - Calla (VG++) - 20 Eddie Parker - Body Chains - Prodigal WHITE DEMO - (VG++) - 30 Tymes - Somewhere - UK Cameo Parkway WHITE DEMO (MINT-) - 40 Open to any trades Regards, Dave
  15. Topics Merged Regards, Dave
  16. ALL SOLD. Thanks for looking. Regards, Dave
  17. Just found my last 5 of these from 2009. 10UKP + 3UKP shipping from Spain will get you one. (Mint/Unplayed). Long ago deleted. First come first served. Regards, Dave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q26oTVTZOIk
  18. Yep, I remember the Edwin Starr, found as an existing track on a channel that had been dubbed onto the same tape or something like that. I bought them all on vinyl, TB was good enough to produce most of them as demos as well as issues so bonus. ;-) Groovesville-Solid Hitbound. = Crème de la crème. Regards, Dave
  19. The recent Johnnie Taylor Groovesville thread got me thinking about the stuff that came out of the same batch of finds. The following LV Jihnson track is my favourite. Anyone else hear the similarity to Darrell Banks - I'm The One Who Loves You. First heard this on the Car Radio (Might have been R. Searling's early 90s(?) Had to pull over so I could write it down! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TwFjmmZx1Q Another Groovesville outing done by LV is this one. Also really like this too. Matches JJ Barnes for my money. He also did JJ's flip too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ48-6OgjHY Anyway... just thought it worthwhile posting these great record as they seemed to get overlooked at the time but would seem ripe for some of the gigs nowadays. Regards, Dave
  20. Thanks for confirmation Kev, All that stuff was great. Got 'em all. Regards, Dave
  21. Good post from 'The Yank'. In addition, the 33 1/3 format was used right up to the mid 60s for certain Juke and LP Promo formats. You could get six tracks on the Jukebox for the same 'space' as a double sided 45. A good example are the Motown/Atlantic/ABC/ Little LPs, the story of which will appear on the Front Page of Soul Source shortly. Regards, Dave
  22. Wasn't this part of Martin Koppell's buy out of Don Davis' stuff? Would make sense with Martin being a partner in Goldmine? Great record. Regards, Dave
  23. The advent of "The Soulfan's Birthday Police". Christ on a bike! Soon by more interference in our soul lives than the bleeding Govt in our real lives! Leave folks alone to do what they wanna do on their birthdays ffs. Utter bollox. Regards, Dave
  24. I guess we've all become used to the Chitlin' Circuit's reference over the years as it played a direct role in the world of black entertainment. Many of the larger Northern based theatre venues would, over time, become embroiled in the terminology. Back in 2011, author Preston Lauterbach wrote what many regard as the definitive history of the famous group of theaters and the artists who played in them. For anyone remotely interested in the evolution of black music from the cotton fields to the old grande music halls of major cities, (and all stops in between), it's a must read. From West Virginia, across the width of the US to Texas, there's some great stories and photos. And.... you can get a paperback copy for the price of a pint! What's not to like? ;-) https://www.amazon.com/Chitlin-Circuit-Road-Rock-Roll/dp/0393076520 Regards, Dave
  25. Three out of four of all Motown acts played here back in soul's golden era. But there's so much more history to this fantastic building. A real treasure trove of pics too. Great stuff. https://www.scottymoore.net/detroit56.html The photos here relay the splendour of the renovations and how it looks today. Imagine queuing to see a Motortown Revue in these surroundings. https://www.historicdetroit.org/galleries/fox-theatre-photos/ Regards, Dave