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Hi All - It is my opinion that Tony was the very best DJ on the scene, The records played by him were Northern Soul to my ears, Tony was genuine & honest with his play selection, as such so was Tony as a Soul Brother, he loved our music and to watch the dance floor come to life, I send peace & love to all Brothers & Sisters who enjoyed Tony at the TORCH & MECCA, However at this sad time It's his nearest & dearest SHEILA & all relatives & friends who loved Tony the man, we will always remember him. So on behalf of those who travelled North in 72 - 75 from North Herts who will feel as I do full of sadness, especially my mate Mick Smith who was a very close friend of Tony, there are tales and story's to be told, but not now it's not the right time, but from us all Tony LOVE & PEACE...REST IN PEACE SOUL BROTHER #1 . A BIG RESPECT TO YOU. FROM ME D the DRUG. DAVE KIL.

HAPPY NEW YEAR JOE, I WISH YOU GREAT SUCCSES IN 2020 WITH YOUR RECORD SALES AND YOUR LOVE FOR RARE SOUL, KTF BROTHER.

IF I STARTED TO COLLECT RARE SOUL TODAY, MEL WILLIAMS "CAN IT BE ME" WOULD BE A MUST HAVE, IT HAS EVERY THING THAT I LIKE IN A UPTEMPO SOUL RECORD, INFACT IF I MADE A LIST OF MY FAVOURATE NORTHERN SOUL RECORDS THIS RECORD WOULD BE MY #2 ONLY NOLAN CHANCE "JUST LIKE THE WEATHER" WOULD PREVENT IT BEING #1. MEL WILLIAMS ORIGANAL ISSUE IS VERY RARE IN MY BOOK, PUTING A PRICE ON IT IS HARD, £300 IS A BARGIN, WHEN BUYING RARE RECORDS IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU HAVE THE CASH! IT IS ABOUT IS THE 45 THAT I WANT AVAILABLE, A ORIGANAL COPY OF MEL WILLIAMS ISSUE ON MODERN IS A HARD 45, HENCE THAT IT HAS BEEN BOOTLEGED MANY TIMES, I DO HOPE THAT THE SELLER GETS WHAT THEY ARE ASKING AND THE BUYER TREASURES THE RECORD AS A TOP RARE SOUL SOUND THAT SOUNDS GREAT ONCE THE FIRST FEW BARS START THIS CLASSIC 45, A 45 TO KEEP. HAPPY NEW YEAR DtheDRUG KTF.

HI to all members of the SOUL SOURCE Record Club. Can I say that there have been some excellent contributions throughout 2018 so thanks for supporting the club, It's a shame that contributions have been down this year, this includes from me, the reason is the Type2 diabetes that I suffer from has been very bad, in the last 6 months I have been in the record room 3 times, it taks about 15 minutes just to go up 13 steps, and as I have my be downstairs it has made me lethargic & apathetic, So it my intention to close the club in 2 hours but then start 2019 club at the same time, so it's up to you if you want to put up your choice of what listen to now or wait 90 minutes for the new thread, can I wish you all thank you, DAVE K.

HI .. John Manship does great write up's, but he failed to mention how rare this $tateside 45 is, over my years of collecting UK 45's I have seen more yellow London DEMOS than Red & White DEMOS, I was lucky to get my copy for £10 from a collector of DEMOS of Pop hits from the 6ts, My copy is VG+ and if I was to sell it a starting price would be £250, when it comes to selling top rare UK auction is the only way,

HI ALL, Here we are again! a couple of personal tip's and can I stress again my remarks are based on 50 years of collecting and are my opinions not those of Soul Source although they may agree with my sentiment? I'll start with a bit more stuff on UK Demos, only the other day I remembered that when I worked as a roadie in both PA & Lighting back in the mid 7ts, that while working at some MECCA or TOP RANK establishment, behind the DJ Booth I found some records all DEMOS plus a bit of opened mail, one letter had a list of names & addresses of members of the music trade, dance hall managers and DJs Radio company's & their DJs the list was from EMI Records and had all those people who received all the latest releases to be reviewed each record was reviewed at least 5 weeks before the month and day of the release, so for example review discs sent in June were for release in August, now you would think there was many on the list but it seemed they were selective in who receive the type & genre of the music and only the DJS got the biggest pile then the music critic's in the music press like Melody Maker & NME AS I have previously mentioned Radio Station Producers or DJs knocked the centres out of DEMOs in the 6ts not till Phonogram got the rights to many labels in the UK was the start of company dinked records come along we then saw the end of knock out centre Now this sheet of who got what was how I gained knowledge on the subject I gave the list away to Ady C as he might of found it even more useful than I did. Next now we have ascertained the estimated number of UK DEMOS, we will mention a bit about what I consider as part of the DEMOS history, or what is now called "writing on the label", now like it not if you worked as a DJ in the 6ts & received a Disc to review it goes without saying the stations admin dept & your producer would put some markings on it, some would be to identify the preferred side, some if not all depending on the station would put a record into their library, many records at the BBC landed up there? only to be knicked or sold of cheap when a fresh copy come along, the were more into having a complete record library based on sound quality not on collectability, This leads me to a few DEMOS that I have with black permanent marker blanking out the words NOT FOR SALE, I was informed the reason for this was a shop owner really got worried that the record company would fine them if sold to the public however most of these type were old stock sent to EMI Company's who had shares in shops that sold record players and records. Well that's all for now. KTF

HI ALL... It's a fact that if you collect 6ts Rare Soul, whether they are vinyl or styrene, the way they are handled Stateside which is no way like we do, there will always be some damaged by the way they have been handled and stored, some have cracks some are broken and some are water damaged, the Shrine label comes to mind. For me if I get a record that has a hair line crack, after putting a bit of tape on the non hit side it will do, however for those people who want to play the record out when DJing I always assumed that to protect your records, you would use your own head shell with it's pick up & stylus, as it is stupid to think that the ones on the decks are safe, it makes sense to take your own, you would not DJ without a centre WOULD YOU??

Hi your info is wrong, 500 Stateside Motown DEMO's well if you believe that, sit down and think about it? here's a question for you & anybody who reads this, perhaps the biggest Stateside/Motown 45s was "Baby Love" the Supremes' have you got a demo, when was the last time you see it for sale? have you ever seen a copy when you are out & about? at a record fair maybe? if the answer to this is yes well you would be a collector just like me!, but if the answer is no and I have a copy, where are the other 499? once you track them down you can look for a demo of "my guy" Mary Wells, ….I'm sure you get my gist? KTF

Hi All - Well I have collected record since 1965 over the first few years I collected MOD/POP from 68 to 72 REGGAE was my bag with SOUL in 2nd place, got most of my records in SOHO & Brixton, In those days my info come from Blues & Soul Mag it was my bible, I tried to buy as many new releases as I could from Contempos, all though I did a bit of DJing, it was nothing compared to doing some spots with Billy Mac & Mick Smith this is when my Rare Soul Roots come from, Now most of my tips on record collecting are well known today, However I will start by making my statement on the subject of NOC what's NOC well it stands for no origanal centre, As with most people who started collecting rare soul in the early7ts, you got most of your records from junk shops markets or shops selling discount records, so goes without saying to find a rare record in any condition was a find to brag about and to find a UK DEMO 45 was almost imposable, However in the last twenty years or so the new kids on the block seem to not value UK records with NOC as much as they should, this why issue without a centre will do until you find a better copy, but when it comes to DEMO's my veiw is most DEMO'S without a centre in was sent to a DJ at the time, now some DEMO's come in small numbers EMI typically made 50, to promote a record, most went to Radio Stations a few went to music journalists, those sent to DJ's were in the main had the centre knocked out so it could be played, So knowing this I have always treated a NOC DEMO as how it comes it was meant to be like this part of it's history, UK SOULL DEMOS are rare no matter how much you pay, the more you spend on a record does not & never did make a record rarer, the fact that every US 45 has the centre dinked (well not every 45) so why are collectors today always searching for the impossible find in having MINT 45s is mad 7 expensive, that's all for now and it my opinion. KTF

Hi All... Not quite sure what you quite expect, but over the time since the Rare Soul scene started there has always been money to be made from bootlegs, this was the bone of contention that the late Dave Godin often wrote about in B&S, He often wrote about records obtained at shops like SOUL CITY, MOORS, CARLOWS, SELECTADISC, REDIFUSION & so on for under £1 were taken up north & sold for a £5 to those people that loved the feeling for All-night Soul,, Back in 1970 John Wilko Wilkinson (Twisted Wheel Brother from NOTT's) found a copy of Chubby Checkers "at the Discotheque" he paid 6d or a tanner if you like? the record was selling for a few £s at the time even though at least 4 bootlegs existed, I actually have the rarest copy from 1968 with the TAMS "hey Girl" on T other side, In 1974 I swapped a Boot of the Velors for a Levi Jackson Columbia DEMO??he still has not forgive m,e who can tell a boot ask Pete S about the YUM YUMS he sold for a few hundred, to conclude who really knows the answer to your question, Willie Hutch/Bobby Hutton sold on EBay for over £100??? true?... ALL THE B. KTF

HI ALL... It, that is "DANCE DANCE DANCE" was issued on a PYE 12" 45 Disk in 74, why I mention this is the sound is great compared to 7" & the US Roulette copy, value if you find a copy is £3 - £10, however like Contempo 12" 45s they never turn up, when they do it probably be by a car boot'er not a Soul Dealer?? However Naff it maybe on PYE, I recommend it, come to think about it any SOUL 12" from the 1970s is worth getting nowdays as an investment plus they have longer versions than 7" a good example is Skip Mahony - Janice, UNDERGROUND Records, which was released a year early than 45,KTF Dave K

Hi All... It would be doing an injustice to the many groups that I have seen & those that I worked with as a Roadie, working in both sound & light, also it must be stated that as a Teenager (in the 6ts) most groups could play their instruments & sing the song, they had to if they wanted to make a record contract, also back then 3 & 4 track recording studios was normal, most records were achieved with 1 take, you would be surprised the amount of mistakes that are in 6ts recording, most noticeable are in Jamaican music, Also I am not going to mention Groups seen at early music festivals such as Reading Cambridge Folk Festival, Wheely Pop Festival, Isle of White, and Glastonbury did you know I went to the very first? In the 7ts I worked as a DJ playing soul, but also working in student union halls who wanted Rock POP, but it is when I first worked as a roadie, with Soul acts who mainly did the MECCA circuit plus small clubs, Rock & pop, later on Punk Rock, My favourite tours were with the Tramps Tavares, Smokey Robinson, Edwin Starr, Jr Walker Marvin Gaye & Kool & the Gang. white artists I will mention 2 Mike Patto & Alexis Korner, However the best live acts I have seen were James Brown at the Rainbow 1971 & the Dells at Trenten Gardens are 2 acts that were magic, as I say this is my personal Pick, some would pick the Motown acts, however they were great but the 2 I picked were a bit better. KTF DAVE K

Hi Mick...Back in 69 I was very much into the short lived youth sub culture Boot or Bovver Boys, although I thought that in 68 I was a young MOD? spending Saturday afternoon walking down Green St, going into the Chicken Run, watching the only English team to win the World Cup, then spending the rest of Saturday wandering round the West End ending up in the Flamingo Club (not dissimilar to the Wheel, music wise, although they did tend to play every Drifters record at the Wheel in 68/9?). in 69 as my sage will tell you it was REGGAE all the way, 69 was the year that the press called us Skinheads, & by the time I got out of DC to the sound of "band of gold" it was all over, in London, It was not until I met Mick Smith (my Sage) in 71, that I went to the TORCH & met Keith, However in 1970/1 I remember getting my first US imports, which were in the main Motown & Chess all labels, my first Revilot Golden World Ric-Tic 45s I got come from CONTEMPOS, either from the shop or by a Soul Pack, infact my first was the Magic Tones on MAHS Records in 1970, the Parlaments I had on a Track Backtrack LP of DETROIT records, Don't think I doubt your wisdom or memory, but I do find it interesting the North South divide that existed back then, in the strange world of Northern Soul?? KTF PS- the LP below Has some nice tracks on it, from the early days of our scene, well worth getting if you find a copy?? Right On Now!

Hi All.. Here is a CLASSIC from 73 when records were hard to find but when you found them like this Ila Vann 45, you never parted with them, I have only had 2 copies my 1st from the Scotch man in Kings Lynn? & the copy in my collection, had to put it up because seeing it on JM auction I had to agree with every thing he said about it, also you must try and get it as it never comes up for sale, a great soul record. KTF

Hi All I just posted in the record club, however it is in the old section. I forgot to close it down at the start of the year, when the new thread started, sorry about this mistake however I will have to close it as it makes no sence to use last years thread? KTF Dave K