Ady Croasdell

Bath Bob, if I'd have been on the Ali Ben Ghazi, I'd probably have said the shitter. We're fighting the American euphemistic description of a toilet as a "bathroom". And soccer's called football, though I think we may be losing that one. PS it was a Blackberry, I wasn't risking electrocution!

I can't remember about this one and I'm in the bath but the male duo by harold and Bob or whoever doesn't seem to have come out but had a number and the same for Joe Matthews and Eddie Hill. I covered it the best I could in the Westbound Northern Kent CD notes

That's only if the CDs are limited or compressed for whatever reason, usually because whoever put them out don't know what they're doing. We wouldn't do that. If digital and analogue are reproduced to the same high standards (or less if they are done equivalently) the digital will be better because it has not had to be reproduced so many times in the process of pressing the vinyl.

I think you're missing my point. I agree with you about the rawness but that's still on the CDs which use the same master tapes as the original vinyl singles. To hear something in worse quality is like going to an art gallery and looking at paintings through slightly clouded glass.

Sorted folks, Thanks Ady

Itchy Koo. Can anyonne loan us an Ex copy for thanks, credit and some choice CDs please? ta Ady

It's still a learning curve and as I said I agree that a lot of times stereo detracts from a song. If I ever use it on 60s tracks nowadays I tend to keep it very narrow as those songs were not intended to be stereo when recorded. Just occasionally it actually enhances the recording. I think you're making a bit too much of a generalisation, I know you weren't particularly enamoured with the Pied Piper CD but tracks like Tony Hester Just Can't Leave You sound incredible from the master; in mono too. And there are some good examples on Kent 30, which you did like, too.

PS I think GarethX has either got a good sense of humour, is full of mischief or is conducting a sociological experiment. He's not been on here since has he? I'm not sure why some of the replies were so vitriolic, he merely put a question out there. It's not really outrageous that we may have done a bit of good (or bad) in our 45 year pursuit of this music. I also found it rather self-centred that some people found their own particular era was the one that mattered the most. For each fan their time on the scene is what they enjoy their most but others have their heyday before or after.

But the original records came from the master tapes. By using them digitally you do not lose the different generations of sound by transferring them 5 or 6 times in the pressing process. If you just like a lower grade reproduction, stick a sock in the speakers of your CD player I tend to mono frequently but digital mono is better quality than analogue mono too.

Not better sound quality, when done correctly digital is better, that's why everything went digital. We're happy to do vinyl but know that digital is the best way of hearing the music.

Probably May 69, possibly, May 68 and its been a ball

Look out for the new pied piper label with matching sleeve at the end of this month

Musically, which I think most of us got into it for, it must be the preservation and documentation of a lot of black US 60s and 70s music. Without the dedication and methodology of the Northern collectors who firstly scoured the US through buying trips and then through Internet contact, a sizeable chunk of wonderful music would have been lost to the world. Some would have come out or been appreciated in other ways but the fanaticism and motivation of Northern collectors, be it for money, glory or enjoyment, meant that many sides were discovered and preserved which would have been trashed without this appreciation. No doubt the B sides have also been saved for deep or southern soul appreciation too. Though it seems crass to admit it, the crazy prices Northern collectors are prepared to pay for their treasures or trophies eventually awoke most US record dealers to the fact that these odd discs were worth seeking out and saving and many a gem got onto the rare soul world in this manner too. To me, equally important is the fact that many artists now know the work they did was of musical value to a hidden transatlantic bunch of fans who were still dancing and loving their work several decades after it was deemed to be a flop in its home country. I know singers like Lorraine Chandler, Dean Parrish, Maxine Brown, Mary Love, Gigi and the Charmaines, The Velvelettes, Spencer Wiggins and Bettye Lavette are very appreciative of this. I'll only touch on the social side of it but to have a dance floor full of originally mainly working class kids and young adults dancing on their own to emotionally charged soul music was quite a phenomenon that we can all feel proud of. It was liberating for men in particular many years before it became commonplace in British life. And don't even get me started on master tapes and acetates.

Traded my dollar copy to Butch for Cleveland R Love Is A Trap, bad business but better music. EE just always seems flat and monotonous to me. I prefer her The Change

Its good that you enjoyed Kent 30 Pete it did get a little lost in the end of year rush. It's a stunning comp that aurally and in the notes tells the story of Kent and with 30 great tracks inc 2 Pied Pipers not on here is compulsory for anyone who enjoyed this

I don't suppose he's put the 60s version of You Just Don't Know on there has he?

Thanks Rob, any chance of PMing an MP3 for research purposes. I've got a track called I'm Leavin You which is probably it; a nice southern style ballad?

The CD release date was the last Mon in Jan, I'll try and get it hurried along. Michael, I'll try and get the sleevenotes sorted. Do they normally include them? It's a 28 page booklet so I'm not sure that they do. Ady

https://acerecords.co.uk/browse/singles?genre=48 will show you 90 ish currently available 45s. The Kent ones are Northern and modern / 70s soul and some early 60s R&B. Excuse the blatant plug. Ady PS the Northern's a mixture of classics, recently discovered master tapes on vinyl for the first time anywhere and rareties available on a UK press for the first time.

This just in from Ray Monette, legendary Detroit guitarist and apart from being half of Mike & Ray co-wrote I Can't Hold On, Give Me All Of Your Love and Time Changes Things JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THE CD'S! THE PIED PIPER CD IS GREAT. EXCELLENT HISTORY ON THE WHOLE STORY,AND THE SOUND QUALITY IS OUTSTANDING. I WAS THERE,AND YOU TOLD ME SOME THINGS THAT I WASN'T AWARE OF AT THE TIME.LOL. ONCE AGAIN......THANKS,AND GOOD LUCK WITH THE PROJECT! CHEERS, RAY

Deborah Foster Sweet And Sassy and Bye Bye Baby (I'm Leavin' You) are two sides of a 12" 630, presumably the flip to You Just Don't Know. Can anyone confirm? Also is Deborah Foster Robinson Don't Let Me Slip Away on Playmor the same lass?

Now I've heard it I'd like a copy please. ta Ady

I've hijacked my own thread. I'm going to start a Members LP thread in Freebasing. Feel free to transfer any stray posts mods.

i caught them down the Roxy, marquee and Vortex and was a big fan. 'New Rose' was probably the best of all the punk singles, amazing energy. The Members did the best punk/New Wave LP

It was but after saving the tape for the record company they said they had plans of their own! However I'm strill hopeful and will try and get it in the next batch