Ady Croasdell
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Has anyone got this? I think it came out on both 7" and 12" and may or may not have their version of Gladys' 'Neither One Of Us' on the flip of the 7". I'd be interested to know whatever format 'Neither One Of Us' came out on. Ta Ady
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I first went to a rare soul all nighter in early 1969. It was in a solitary disused railway station about half a mile from the hamlet of Kelmarsh in north Northamptonshire, 5 miles from my home town of Market Harborough. I knew the big soul acts of the day whose records had made it to the UK - Otis, Wilson Picket, Carla Thomas, Temps, 4 Tops, Supremes, Fontella Bass, Brenton Wood Etta James - but the records I was hearing at the nighter were by the Esquires, Tony Clarke, Homer Banks and the American Poets who I had never heard of. The small function room soon filled up with 100 skinheads most of whom were dancing in groups or solo, so being on my own I felt comfortable to get up and move to the music. The crowd seemed intense but friendly despite my hair being longer than all the other blokes combined. I told my mod/skin mates in Harboro about it and soon there was a crew of us going over, getting the pills down our necks while dancing to this alternate type of soul which we referred to as Old Soul. Who knew Tamla singer Kim Weston had recorded an uptempo soul mastepiece in ´Helpless´ or the Velvelettes had cut one called ´These Things Will Keep Me Loving You´? We made friends and recognised some of the other attendees as characters from Kettering, Corby and Wellingborough whom we´d normally avoid but here in this secret meeting place it was all cool and we had a shared love of the music and the speed. It turned out there were outcrops of similarly minded youths around the country in Leeds, Wakefield, Manchester and Derby. Even handier for an impoverished student like me a bloke called Dave Godin wrote about it in the Blues & Soul magazine; complete with playlists and tips and recommendations of places to go to hear these secretive sounds. Eventually Dave would dub the scene Northern Soul in his Blues & Soul column and the name would stick. The clubs were keenly watched by the dedicated drugs squads of the local police. Northants was supposedly one of the most serious in the country and they were getting pissed off at the number of chemists that were getting broken into around the county. The raids they conducted eventually closed Kelmarsh and I mentioned it to Harboro´s local dance promoters who ran the Frollickin´ Kneecap nightclub. They started to run all nighters at our town centre venue, renaming it the Lantern for those dances and making it a dedicated members club to get around the restrictive licensing laws. The scene was so small yet dedicated that there would usually be only one or two nighters on in the country at any time and when the Twisted Wheel in Manchester was finally raided early one Saturday night, the blocked up youths made the 100 mile drive down to Harboro to dance their blues away; in all senses of the word. The Wheel had been the brand leader and the epitome of cool, style and sounds and its demise was a major blow to young go-getters across the country. Like the Lantern a handful of other nighters would spring up and be closed down as the drug taking soared and the squads clamped down. The next venue to become the undisputed Mecca for the nighter goers was the Torch in Tunstall, Stoke On Trent. It was bigger than the traditional 100-300 clubs that had previously been host to the scene but the 6-800 capacity old music-hall, complete with balconies and theatre boxes, was ideal for the rapidly expanding clientele. Also it was dark as hell, dripping with atmosphere and sweat and the DJs were moving away from the classic mid to up tempo Chicago and Tamla beat to seriously stomping sounds that could keep pace with the drinamyl-induced pumping hearts of the mainly teenage audience. DJs, collectors and record sellers were finding more and more ways of getting their hands on the vast number of mid 60s soul releases that had not reached our shores before. Johnny Sayles, The Younghearts, Mamie Galore, The Fuller Brothers and the Cooperettes seemed to be even more glamorous soul names, none of which had ever got close to an English release. The Torch lasted for little over a year but had accelerated the scene´s growth and demand so that when the next big all nighter started in 1973 it was more than big, it was massive. Wigan Casino was a similar ancient music hall / dance emporium but about four times the size and more of a complex than a venue; you could house a small town in its many rooms. Early attendances were adequate but the place was far from full and in fact seemed a bit too big for purpose when I went to one of the early nighters. A few months later on my next visit it was rammed to the rafters, using the Torch´s blueprint of non-stop stompers its reputation had spread across the country and youths across the whole breadth of Britain, disaffected with both the teeny bopper and pompous undeground of the UK’s pop scene had become die-hard soul fans overnight. It was admittedly a certain style of soul starting at 85 mph and going up to 140 in extreme cases, sometimes the soul quotient was forgotten about. What the hell, there were thousands of stunning sounds out there in good ole black America just waiting for jaw-grinding scruffy UK youths to hop on an aeroplane and rescue them for their own personal kudos and wealth and for the edification of 2,000 kids moving as one, hand-clapping in just the right places. The scene was so big it could accommodate other big all nighters at places like Cleethorpes and Yate near Bristol as well as the big and influential evening events at the Blackpool Mecca and elsewhere. The Northern Soul weekend experience was so intense it would incorporate big Sunday all dayers so that reprobates need never see their parents between Friday morning and Monday tea. It continued as a big noise throughout most of the 70s but the alternate punk, jazz funk and disco scenes creamed off many attendees and offered alternatives for potential new recruits: the scene was becoming jaded. In London in 1979 the mod revival was underway and a small club called the 6TS Rhythm ‘n’ Blues Society was showing those style converts what the original mod soul music was about. After 18 months of moving around the capital, the 6TS ended up at the 100 Club slap bang in the middle of Oxford Street where it still runs in that distinguished basement club today. In a way it was back to the roots as a venue as well as musically and the classic dingy, smoke-filled, basement club was ideal for the nutters and fanatics who have slunk down those famous stairs over the last four decades. Musically though it started out as classic club soul with a dash of R&B, it reverted to the more standard Northern Soul formula once the all nighters were established around 1981. There was even a period when the rare 70s soul scene made an equal contribution to the musical playlist but that was reduced drastically when the club took up the gauntlet handed down by the 60s Mafia DJs of Stafford’s Top Of The World All nighters around the mid1980s. DJs Keb Darge and Guy Hennigan in particular were fed up with the staleness of constantly played oldies and reckoned there were still a lot of records, hardly known by the public let alone collectors, that could turn the scene on its head. Keb had a devoted band of followers who he would give cassettes of his new finds to so they would know his playlist when it was debuted at Stafford. They would rush to the floor to dance to records that otherwise would only have had interested looks. Guy was similar and mixed up the tempos a bit more than stompy Keb. He was the prime mover in big beat ballad scheduling and records like Tommy Navarro’s ‘I Cried My Life Away’ and Romance Watson ‘Where Does That Leave Me’ became massive. Keb also DJed at the 100 Club and Leicester nighters and soon the word was spreading. I was converted by the Latin sound of Bobby Valentine and spun a few down the 100 Club as well as big beat ballads like Johnny Maestro, Kurt Harris and the Trends ‘Not Too Old To Cry’. However what really put the 100 Club on the map, and helped the newies revolution, was finding some magnificent previously unreleased 60s soul tracks from the record company vaults. Melba Moore ‘Magic Touch’, Maxine Brown ‘Torture’, Chuck Jackson ‘What’s With This Loneliness’ started it and the Pied Piper RCA finds of Kenny Carter ‘What’s That On Your finger’, Willie Kendrick ‘She’ll Be Leaving You’, Lorraine Chandler ‘You Only Live Twice’ and Sharon Scott ‘(Putting My Heart Under) Lock & Key’ took it to a new level. With the newies scene now established the super-rare scene started driven by one of Keb and Guy’s gurus the Stoke DJ Butch who had the best rare soul collection in the world and possessed records and later acetates so rare nobody could come close to him for 20 years (ongoing). It’s the territory of “how many of these are known in the world?”; the answer is usually less than five. Stafford closed but the 100 Club kept on and new venues like Lifeline, Rugby, Burnley, Prestwich, The Dome, and others had their deserved moments in the spotlight. The 90s saw many returnees to the scene but a lot of those were happy to dance to the tunes of their youth and the rare scene has struggled in recent years. However the 2010s has seen an influx of new young faces and they are as keen on the new as the old, so there are signs of a revival in all areas and attendances are on the up again. A great new film on Northern Soul has been made by a Bury lass who has been a 100 Club regular for twenty years and the impact of that is eagerly anticipated. site note this article submitted by Ady C has also just appeared in the latest issue of Nutsmag and also ties in with The Crossfire oldies allnighter in London on this Easter Bank Holiday Sunday further info via http://www.newuntouchables.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Comments below are from the original comments posted at the original time of publication Peter99 Apr 18 2014 06:54 PM Nice read Ady. Thanks for putting it together and sharing. Peter AGENTSMITH Apr 18 2014 09:45 PM compact yet concise in its many elements...does adey croasdell do it better than carlsberg.....probably! binsy Apr 18 2014 11:31 PM Great story, really well balanced.nice one Jim Elliott Apr 19 2014 12:28 AM Succinctly put Mr C. I'm biased being a home grown Northants boy, obviously. Jim, Earl of Irthlingborough. dthedrug Apr 19 2014 10:57 AM Well what can I say ADY them early years were something, I remember Chris G taking me to some of these places Earls Barton Bletsoe Kelmarsh, Black Horse Leighton Buzzard however I can recall those great nights at Wigan with Pete Wid & M ick Smith there is so much you should of written, I personally believe that the 100 Club original's kept the scene alive and your work with ACE RECORDS bought a few people back to the scene, I have always looked upon you & Mick as mentors, I think you should fill in the many gaps in your story. RESPECT KTF DAVE K Russ Vickers Apr 20 2014 01:11 PM Makes me proud to be part of a proper Rare Soul Scene....great article Ady, thank you... Russ arnie j Apr 20 2014 02:27 PM good stuff,i enjoyed reading that,cheers ady jason whereismy record Apr 20 2014 02:39 PM Really good read Ady enjoyed reading it now just to wait for the book... little-stevie Apr 20 2014 04:25 PM My regards to Ady, You still strive to " keep it real " and command the respect of so many... A respect that some others will never get come close to... No matter how much they blow their own trumpet.... You gave many of us some of the best times of our life and still life in the old dog yet... You made a lasting impresson on me with your events and taste in music...... Your fashion sense at times did not have the same effect but who in this world is perfect.. Hope to catch up sometime and its your round, i don't tend to send love letters and big up many blokes... Cheers... Byrney Apr 20 2014 05:39 PM Now that's history, cracking Ady. Jim Cafferky Apr 21 2014 07:24 PM Great article from a great guy So many tracks I have come to know via Ady and Kent - rare or just plain top quality Many thanks for all the contributions you have made and the great tracks I have managed to hear via Kent richo991 Apr 22 2014 07:31 PM Thank's Adie ,I enjoyed reading Your artical. which gives a fair account of the soul scene,With regards to the music, my only gripe is that a lot of the music that was played ,is rarely heard due to either its rarity, or where you were at the time.I have come across some guy's with fab collections,which you can come across now & again but due to the amount of clubs now running its rare unless you happen to be at a weekender when there on I find that some of the afternoon sessions are the best whats your oppinion on how the scene is musical. thanks Richo itsthebeat Apr 28 2014 07:59 AM An excellent read!! manusf3a Apr 29 2014 05:36 PM AS above excellent read,one of the very best on here thats for sure. ZootSuit May 09 2014 01:35 PM '69 Kellmarsh, my first nighter, great read, brought back ALL the memories....more like a floodgate !!!! alfranco Jun 06 2014 08:43 AM Brilliant read even though I only went my 1st all nighter at Wigan 77 I was hooked 4 years before with my older sister going to VaVa's in Bolton and other Soul nights still am
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Is This The Most Expensive U.k Soul Single
Ady Croasdell replied to Tobytyke's topic in All About the SOUL
In so far as 3 respected collectors owned it at one stage and it was sold on to an unknown collector in Leicester who the last of the three can't remember or find! I was the second of the three -
How Do We Get Young Djs Spots St Events?
Ady Croasdell replied to Put herald's topic in All About the SOUL
Blimey, a sensible answer. Agreed and find a nighter/club you enjoy, go regularly and try the odd pester. If you bring your mates along too the promoter will want to keep your crowd happy and will try you out; hopefully -
Is This The Most Expensive U.k Soul Single
Ady Croasdell replied to Tobytyke's topic in All About the SOUL
Or the 444 Test press of Sam Nesbit. Two great sides so rare nobody knows who's got it! -
Is This The Most Expensive U.k Soul Single
Ady Croasdell replied to Tobytyke's topic in All About the SOUL
This London boy. I said I could get any UK record and Tony Ellis bet me a fiver I couldn't get QOF. I got it but sold him it for not much so he really won the bet. I thought I was going to be retired by the time I was 25 but the guy got cold feet. -
Is This The Most Expensive U.k Soul Single
Ady Croasdell replied to Tobytyke's topic in All About the SOUL
But was it a 60s press close to the original recording date? It sounds like they didn't have the rights in the end so is technically a boot LOL -
The 6TS Rhythm ‘n’ Soul Society is pleased as punch to announce that Sandy Wynns and Greg Perry will be our live acts at the 22nd Cleethorpes Northern & Modern Soul Weekender on June 14th 2014. It will be the first time Sandy aka Edna Wright has performed her Northern Soul classics ‘Love Belongs To Everyone’, ‘I’ll Give That To You’, ‘How Can Something Be So Wrong’ and of course the forever monster sound ‘The Touch Of Venus’. She will perform more sensuous soul sizzlers including the Modern Soul highlight ‘Oops! Here I Go Again’. Additionally there will be Honey Cone numbers from her successful career at Hot Wax/Invictus. Sandy has been at the forefront of the Los Angeles female backing singers’ scene that cut so many international hits over the past four decades. That incredible work was recently documented with reference to several of her friends and colleagues in the Oscar winning documentary 20 Feet From Stardom. Many of those H-D-H period songs were written by the hugely talented Greg Perry who started out as an artist and songwriter in the Chicago and Detroit area. One of his early writing partners was friend of the 6TS @ Cleethorpes, Sidney Barnes. His 1967 Northern double-sider ‘Head Over Heels’ / ‘Love Control’ on Chess set the standard and he composed for the likes of Cookie Scott and Thelma Jones in the 60s before being recruited by Holland, Dozier, Holland for Invictus. There he composed many hits including ‘Somebody’s Been Sleeping In My Bed’ for 100 Proof, ‘Bring The Boys Home’ Freda Payne, ‘Pay To The Piper’ Chairmen Of The Board and ‘Want Ads’ for the Honey Cone. Like most of the Detroit music scene in the early 70s he moved to Los Angeles; the home of his wife Honey Cone Edna Wright. He produced her 1974 RCA LP there and his own Casablanca LP and singles in 1975 and his RCA LP in 1977. Those two great albums included such Modern Soul gems as ‘Variety Is The Spice Of Life’, ‘Come On Down (Out Of The Clouds)’, and ‘How’s Your Love Life Baby’ and a 1982 swansong for the Alfa label tacked on a Northern Soul smash ‘It Takes Heart’ to the end of an illustrious recording career. After Bettye Swann’s stunning performance last year I found it tough to come up with an exciting bill for this year. I think that has now been achieved. See you in June. Ady BOOKING DETAILS 6TS WEEKENDERS 10 Hatfield House 108 Great Titchfield St London W1W 6SN TEL 07773 019559 Or 020 7636 2622 E-MAIL ady.croasdell@btinternet.com (mailto:Ady.Croasdell@btinternet.com) Web site http://www.6ts.info (http://www.6ts.info/) Deposit cheques of £20 per person are best to the above address payable to 6TS Weekenders. We can accept PayPal to the ady.croasdell@btinternet.com (mailto:ady.croasdell@btinternet.com) address which will cost £20.75 for each deposit to cover the extra charges. Feel free to pay in full now if you wish, details below. Unfortunately due to the Beachcomber’s limited capacity there is only enough room on site for last year’s on site customers. However Thorpe Park (01472 813395) caravan site next door has plenty of accommodation, or try the tourist board for B&Bs 01472 323222. The final prices will be £59 for weekend dance passes (£61 by PayPal). The weekender is on the 13th-15th June 2014 and the full live act line-up will be announced soon.
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Has anyone got a copy in their hands yet?
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Sorry Gareth, I don't agree, there are no other 1500 matrix numbers just catalogue numbers and if you look at the Jimmy Clark the matrix is at the top left (C101) and the Karen # at the bottom which would make the 1551 the Volumes record catalogue number and K101 the matrix. The label design links them but not the numbering series.
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There was a 1500 series that ran from 1524 to 1551 with only three or four numbers missing so I doubt it was K100, that was the matrix #. And the 1500 series was logical in release dates too.
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PPS All three copies on YouTube say Part 1 and play what is Part 2 on the masters.
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PS If you want to make certain, just compare the first 20 secs of each side and they should be identical.
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Thanks folks that probably confirms it, there is little difference in style between the two parts but they managed to issue the B side only (Part 2 on both sides of the single-even though one side says Part One it isn't) and still get a hit. That means when we put out the real Part 1 it should chart higher!
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If anyone has this old R&B hit, could they look at the matrix numbers and see if it's 104 A on one side and 104 A B-with the A scratched out a bit on the flip? And if that's the case are the sides musically identical. We have the masters and I think they put out Part 2 on both sides. On Part 2 the piano does not come in for about 15 secs, on what should have been Part 1 it comes in pretty much from the start, though quiet at first. Ta Ady PS It was an R&B hit and if this is the case we will end up issuing Part 1 of a hit for the first time in 2014! Of course there may have been two pressings but the duplicate one I'm referring to is a stock copy not a demo.
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It seems to have been the last of the 1500 series and its not unusual to have a different design tried out near the end- as with Brilliant Korners on Modern. Sequentially 1970 looks right on this as the previous release was reviewed in Billboard in Aug 1970, If we could date the same design Jimmy Clarke it would help but that's from a very random 100 series. I'm sure it's legit, the LP sleevenote writer 30 years or so ago would not have the research tools we have now.
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You'd certainly have thought so Rob.
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There's a licensing issue that's being slowly sorted. It should be OK but I'd grab them from wherever you can. These things can take a while.
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You'd get some trouble from the bouncers with that one.
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Track abandoned! I found an equally good alternative so will wait until a later comp for this. Thanks for looking Ady
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Nope Steve I need the real plastic. Thanks anyway, see you at Cleggy
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One last grovel!
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Superbs I Wanna Do It/go For What
Ady Croasdell replied to Ady Croasdell's topic in Look At Your Box
Not sure what you're on about Mikey but I'm sorted for both now. Cheers Ady