Ady Croasdell

Ezzie very kindly loaned it me and it's two very good 1961 mod/jazz vocal tracks and defo original pressing, i think the pink label just makes it look more recent, particularly as pink was so popular in the mid 60s in LA. It came out on LA's Vistone label first, I bet Sebastian knows a bit about it!? Ady

Anyone flogging it over here?

Your hair or the club? Both I'm sure will be luxuriant come the 23rd Ady X

Yes, they've weathered the immediate threat, but still a long way to go, so get your fine self down there.

I like Chuck's version and we've got an unreleased version bt Lee Thomas on a Scepter/Wand/Musicor CD out in January. I've not heard this one for yonks. There's also unissued by Ed Townsend, Jackie Moore, The Fabulous Dinos and a great Ashford Armstead Simpson number from the Shirelles as well as lots of big and intriguing actual releases.

Trade Martin isn't the same song is it? Chuck Jackson did the unreleased Wand version

Yes, Ezzie, i'm very interested as I do research and licensing with Flodavieur herself (the label owner's daughter). It came out on Vistone and Billy did have a genuine Flodavieur release but it could conceivably have been done as a boot, the number's weird, the only one on the 700 series. Then again if you were gonna boot, you'd probably pick an unknown 600 #. Any chance of a loan to assess it all please? If it's a good mod jazzer we could use it and she'd earn a few more $s from her dad's legacy. Cheers Ady

Yes, if the publishers of the song are also paid, but not onto someone else's label that they had no right to do. And of course San Franisco TKOs is a boot, Ace own the label/tapes. It's available on a Kent 45 for £6 with Salt & Pepper on the flip! But it's not got a big hole so somebody might prefer to pay £20+ with no royalties going to the artists and songwriters

Yes you need the written consent of the recording's owner. This is totally a boot as it's even out on an illegal Flodavieur label, the presser could get sued for copyright stealing too! Ady

https://interactivecu...f-northern-soul If you could stand 38 mins of me droning on about licensing and side matters like bootlegging, go to the above link and revel in my new-look, yellow sloppy jumper. I really should get to the gym. The whole event was very worthwhile and I must say validated by the turn out of Soul Sourcers who contributed to a lively and enlightening debate. I understood most of it and even had my thoughts provoked at different stages. I did find the closing presentation to be a few hundred yards over my head; there was a fair bit of philosophy and non Northern stuff in there, but i have been reliably informed that at most similar dos, it's like that for the majority of the talk, not the minority as in this case. If any points are brought up about licensing, I'd be happy to answer them, but maybe we should start a separate thread as it was only a part of this much bigger presentation. Ady

Thanks Paul, I see Lonely Man came out as by Benny on Estill, there's a good Wand vocal version of both, I'll compare them. Cheers ady

Great stuff Eddie, I'll contribute where I can Ady

Are these both instrumentals? Ta Ady

Sorted thanks

By the Audio Arts Strings; natch. Ady

Will do Dave Thanks Ady

Thanks y'all, that was good enough of John's site. The flip would be interesting to though. Cheers Ady

Any chance of copping an earfull of this one please? Ady

Nice one, I've got a proper RCA acetate of that somewhere. ady

We found half a dozen copies in Noo Joisey but I wasn't DJing then and I think Ian got it as a tip, so already discovered. Ady

I actually put the words Social Anthropology as a joke, hopefully it won't be as dry or serious as that. If anyone thinks I've worked out what I'm going to say in a paper, they've never been to Cleethorpes. Advance planning isn't a strong point of mine. I'll no doubt be refining my opus on the train up. Licensing hasn't essentially changed since the early 70s but a few of our brethren have seemed a bit grey in the area over the years so maybe I can enlighten them a tad. I'll be looking for bouffant haired, North African originated Leeds lad on the back row: and possibly a Lawrence Llewelyn Bowen lookalike. Steve, fans an abbreviation of the word fanatic; perhaps Lucy was using it in that sense. Cheers Ady

Fair comment Dave but I actually quite enjoy it still, as the longer it goes on the less I panic about it. It gets me out of the house, is on my doorstep and I get to hear fabulous music and meet terrific people. We have a contingency plan lined up for if it all goes tits up. A permanent home may take longer, or perhaps we'll join the travelling community and try a different one on for size until we come across a cracker like we did in 1980/1981. It could be like those dodgy raves where I text everybody the location half an hour before we kick off!

Good news on Saturday at least, we can stay open until 6am new time so you won't have an extra hour wait for the trains. Because of that we'll open at 11pm so it'll still be 8 hours of Northern Soul heaven. To recap it's 11pm (old time) - 6am (new time) but because the clocks go back an hour at 2 am that's 8 hours! Ady

It's in a big room 200+ so there should be plenty of room for anybody who decides to come along. Thurs aftos aren't usually rush hour in the Northern events world. Ady

Tobi told me how the song was recorded. It was such an incredibly tough song to record, they did it in a series of small segments and spliced it all together. She has never sung the song in its entirety, even when she recorded it. That was one of the reasons she declined to sing for us at Cleethorpes last year.